Panjpiri Influence in Afghanistan?

[Charsi Malang]

Anyone else see the transformation here?

It all starts off with nicey nicey “Islamic” posts, then slowly starts turning sour until towards the end it becomes open insults.

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Anyone else see the transformation here?

It all starts off with nicey nicey “Islamic” posts, then slowly starts turning sour until towards the end it becomes open insults.

Not at all. I'm just giving the racists a taste of their own medicine.

My real target are Hindus (my mortal enemies). I'd rather get back to "insulting" them, like their perverted Guru that looks like a werewolf

[Charsi Malang]

^^ Dude, at least he has eyes. Many of you Afghans have tiny eyes. Then you bushy protruding brows eclipse those already tiny eyes.

So you’re the authority on Afghan looks now?

Mate the guys pic who you posted-the “Indic” mulla looks like it’s been photoshopped or airbrushed. He actually looks very sinister. I’m not saying he’s a bad person but I find it strange how you can vouch for his personality by the way he looks.

Don’t you feel a little silly comparing the phenotypes of two whole ethnicities using two randomly picked photographs? Do I really have to explain to you that two random pics do not allow anyone to reach any kind of logical conclusion?

Are you seriously trying to tell me that you can measure a mans devotion to Allah by looking at his face? Wouldn’t it be so damn simple if all bad people looked bad and all good people looked good?

On a serious note... what the hell are you doing on a Pashtun forum? So far I haven’t seen a single post of yours which can be classed as a positive contribution.

You’re not Pashtun
You know nothing about Pashtuns
You don’t understand Pashtuns
You don’t know anything or understand anything that happens in our lives
Your posts are getting more ridiculous by the day
You’re a Punjabi Muslim/ Hindustani Muslim mix- that means you ooze Desiness from every pore- don’t give us that crap about you being Muslim and only Muslim- almost every single Desi I have seen comes up with the same crap as you.

........yet you’re here talking about Hazaras and Afghanistans different ethnic groups. Haven’t you got another forum to go where you will be appreciated more? What on Earth would you know about the relationships between Afghanistans different ethnicities? A lot of the Afghan members here probably wouldn’t fully know that themselves as a lot of them live in the West

We’ve seen it all before buddy!

[Charsi Malang]

What kind of junk science is this? Thickness of beard has nothing to do with testosterone level, its about genetics

Actually you’ll find testosterone levels are linked to facial hair and hair all over the body.

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So you’re the authority on Afghan looks now?

Mate the guys pic who you posted-the “Indic” mulla looks like it’s been photoshopped or airbrushed. He actually looks very sinister. I’m not saying he’s a bad person but I find it strange how you can vouch for his personality by the way he looks.

He is Qari Kaleemullah, known for his very beautiful voice and style of reciting the Quraan as well as giving Wa'iz.





A zealous preacher of Tawhid like his great father, Allama Ahmad Saeed Khan Multani (Rahmatullah alaih)





They are of the Baloch caste. Very respectable and pious individuals. It was very sad to see someone insulting them as being "sinister" etc. I can see the Noor on their face for sure. But a diseased eye cannot stand the light and so cannot perceive that Noor perhaps.

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On a serious note... what the hell are you doing on a Pashtun forum? So far I haven’t seen a single post of yours which can be classed as a positive contribution.

You’re not Pashtun
You know nothing about Pashtuns
You don’t understand Pashtuns
You don’t know anything or understand anything that happens in our lives
Your posts are getting more ridiculous by the day
You’re a Punjabi Muslim/ Hindustani Muslim mix- that means you ooze Desiness from every pore- don’t give us that crap about you being Muslim and only Muslim- almost every single Desi I have seen comes up with the same crap as you.

........yet you’re here talking about Hazaras and Afghanistans different ethnic groups. Haven’t you got another forum to go where you will be appreciated more? What on Earth would you know about the relationships between Afghanistans different ethnicities? A lot of the Afghan members here probably wouldn’t fully know that themselves as a lot of them live in the West

We’ve seen it all before buddy!

I'm on a Pashtun forum to learn more about Pashtuns and to discuss politics and religion. I'm here to learn what ordinary Pashtuns think about Afghanistan politics, the Taliban, and so on. This is why this very thread "Panjpiri Influence in Afghanistan?" ends with a question mark. Regrettably, very few people discuss the topics I raise and instead want to engage in "Indic" bashing and how superior Afghans are to "Indics". (an obscure term I never even came across before until I became a member of this forum)

Thus one thing I have learned about Pashtuns and Afghans from this forum is that you people are very racially conscious and your attachment to Islam is more cultural than genuine.

[Charsi Malang]

He is Qari Kaleemullah, known for his very beautiful voice and style of reciting the Quraan as well as giving Wa'iz.





A zealous preacher of Tawhid like his great father, Allama Ahmad Saeed Khan Multani (Rahmatullah alaih)





They are of the Baloch caste. Very respectable and pious individuals. It was very sad to see someone insulting them as being "sinister" etc. I can see the Noor on their face for sure. But a diseased eye cannot stand the light and so cannot perceive that Noor perhaps.

No one said they were sinister-read my post-seems you didn’t get the gist of it. The look was sinister- they may be extremely pious as you say.

For your information-Baluch isn’t a caste- it’s a race. We don’t have castes as Muslims. Caste and race are different things.

[salman47]

He is Qari Kaleemullah, known for his very beautiful voice and style of reciting the Quraan as well as giving Wa'iz.





A zealous preacher of Tawhid like his great father, Allama Ahmad Saeed Khan Multani (Rahmatullah alaih)





They are of the Baloch caste. Very respectable and pious individuals. It was very sad to see someone insulting them as being "sinister" etc. I can see the Noor on their face for sure. But a diseased eye cannot stand the light and so cannot perceive that Noor perhaps.

You can find people who teach Tawhid with full devotion/pation, and are pedophiles/rapists at the same time. So please don't make a fool of yourself.
Learn what a caste means first!
P.S. Baloch/Pashtun/Persian/English/etc are not Castes.

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No one said they were sinister-read my post-seems you didn’t get the gist of it. The look was sinister- they may be extremely pious as you say.

For your information-Baluch isn’t a caste- it’s a race. We don’t have castes as Muslims. Caste and race are different things.

They don't look sinister to me at all.

And Baloch is a caste in the context of Punjab. Many of the Saraiki speaking people in south Punjab are Baloch, which is a caste for all intents and purposes, different from the Baluch of Baluchistan.

[salman47]

He is Qari Kaleemullah, known for his very beautiful voice and style of reciting the Quraan as well as giving Wa'iz.





A zealous preacher of Tawhid like his great father, Allama Ahmad Saeed Khan Multani (Rahmatullah alaih)





They are of the Baloch caste. Very respectable and pious individuals. It was very sad to see someone insulting them as being "sinister" etc. I can see the Noor on their face for sure. But a diseased eye cannot stand the light and so cannot perceive that Noor perhaps.

I'm on a Pashtun forum to learn more about Pashtuns and to discuss politics and religion. I'm here to learn what ordinary Pashtuns think about Afghanistan politics, the Taliban, and so on. This is why this very thread "Panjpiri Influence in Afghanistan?" ends with a question mark. Regrettably, very few people discuss the topics I raise and instead want to engage in "Indic" bashing and how superior Afghans are to "Indics". (an obscure term I never even came across before until I became a member of this forum)

Thus one thing I have learned about Pashtuns and Afghans from this forum is that you people are very racially conscious and your attachment to Islam is more cultural than genuine.

What is genuine to you? Having big/thick beard, wearing ankle length robes bla bla bla?(actually you're doing it more culturally/i.e. following Arabic culture. Seriously to the Arabs you will forever be an Indian Muslim, nothing more nothing less. Doesn't matter how perfect Arabic you speak or live with Arabic culture)
Stop making a house for yourself in Jahanam by announcing takfir on other non-'Dhulfiqars'(subtly).

[Charsi Malang]

They don't look sinister to me at all.

And Baloch is a caste in the context of Punjab. Many of the Saraiki speaking people in south Punjab are Baloch, which is a caste for all intents and purposes, different from the Baluch of Baluchistan.

A caste is a social system based on hierarchy. It’s tied into the profession of your ancestors- you cannot change it. People of different castes speak the same language but are considered different. What makes it unique is that their is a “tier” system in which one is considered “higher” than the other. The lowest of the low are often untouchables quite literally- the so called higher castes won’t have anything to do with them. Marriages don’t usually take place amongst higher and lower castes.

The caste system is inherently a Hindu/Indian thing.

Baluch people speak Baluchi. They have their own language and culture. The Saraiki people you are speaking of my have had Baluch ancestors- if they now speak Saraiki then they have nothing in common with Baluch people who still exist and speak their own language.

[salman47]

They don't look sinister to me at all.

And Baloch is a caste in the context of Punjab. Many of the Saraiki speaking people in south Punjab are Baloch, which is a caste for all intents and purposes, different from the Baluch of Baluchistan.

Wtf dude? Are you in your senses? Do you even have a brain?
If they're Seraiki Puunjabis, then they can never in a trillion years be Baloch!
Why are you forcing your Indian bull**** caste on other distinct nations?

Same as saying British Paki: He is Pakistani, but he is British,, different than the GB's British(who are original)
Trust me they'll always be Pakis, becoming British is just an Inferiority complexed dreams of those immigrants.

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A caste is a social system based on hierarchy. It’s tied into the profession of your ancestors- you cannot change it. People of different castes speak the same language but are considered different. What makes it unique is that their is a “tier” system in which one is considered “higher” than the other. The lowest of the low are often untouchables quite literally- the so called higher castes won’t have anything to do with them. Marriages don’t usually take place amongst higher and lower castes.

The caste system is inherently a Hindu/Indian thing.

Baluch people speak Baluchi. They have their own language and culture. The Saraiki people you are speaking of my have had Baluch ancestors- if they now speak Saraiki then they have nothing in common with Baluch people who still exist and speak their own language.

Incorrect as usual. There is a difference between "caste" and "caste system". The latter is a social system based on hierarchy. For example, Brahmins at the top, Sudras at the bottom, and those who don't fit into the system, like Dalits, treated as "untouchables".

So its not the mere existence of castes that is un-Islamic, but a caste system is un-Islamic and discriminatory.

So make a distinction between caste and "caste system", like you make a distinction between race and "racism", between tribe and "tribalism".

Baloch is therefore an ancestry. There are millions of Baloch caste people residing in Punjab. They speak Saraiki or Punjabi, but their ancestry is Baloch, and they are organized around that ancestral identity of theirs. Hence they are basically one of many castes. Other castes of foreign ancestry include Mughals, Sayyids, Qureshis, Abbasis, Hashimis, Farooquis, Siddiquis, etc.

We don't tend to organize ourselves based on language, but rather based on caste and ancestry. So a person usually doesn't say "I am Punjabi" but rather "I am Jatt", "I am Arrain", "I am Gujjar", "I am Baloch", "I am Sayyid", "I am Rajput", etc.

My own caste on my mother's side is Qanungoh Shaikh of Rajput descent.

[maneatinglizard]

A typical looking Afghan face looks dirty because they don't really wash their face in reality.

lol would you look at this. A Punjabi dissing the hygiene of others! What's next, you gonna say we're too dark? Too subservient to the British?

Of course cant blame them live in a dirt poor country like Afghanistan. This is why typical Afghan have very wrinkly and rough looking face, not very smooth or radiant skin.

So what excuse do Punjabis have for their (stereotypically poor) hygiene?

Plus Afghan typically have tiny eyes that are too close together, razor thin lips, and edges of their beards are all over their cheeks.

Donkey, you've never seen an Afghan in your life. Don't talk about the way we look when your false prophet would've sold his mother to be related to us (not that that's much praise; Ghulam Ahmad would've sold his other for a few pounds sterling lol).

The most hilarious part about this is that he originally came here claiming he looks like us:

This is what I look like



As you can see I look like a Pathan but I am Punjabi and Hyderabadi. I am mistaken for being Pathan because of my appearance and style of dress, but that is because I belong to the Panjpiri / Mamati maslak.

And by the way, no one told you this before because we hadn't yet caught on to the fact that you're a Pashtun-hating Qadiani ****bag, but you don't look anything like a Pashtun lol.

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The most hilarious part about this is that he originally came here claiming he looks like us:

Yes, by means of dress. Because I tend to wear various styles of caps, turbans, keep a beard, wear either a lengthy kameez or a Gulf style thobe, and Afghan style shawl or "patu" virtually everyone who doesn't know me assumes I am an Afghan. I can't remember how many times some random guy approaches me and starts talking to me in Pashto, including at the Mosque.