Afghan-Pakistan Border Villages Brace for Berlin Wall-Style Divide

[Firdousi]

Pashtuns, Tajiks, Persians, Baloch, Punjabis, Hazara, Kurds, Arabs, Uzbeks, Turkmen, Dardic, Mongol, Semite, Turk, Aryan, Dravidian, etc.

Why do we focus on such superficial differences? Take for example Pashtuns and Tajiks. Apparently they hate each other. They all look the same, speak the same language (Dari), have the same Afghan history and heritage, are both Sunni Muslims, and many other commonalities. Europe was once bitterly divided and warring over their laughable ethnic differences, but then they realized how absurd it is and are now more or less living in peace with each other. Nobody cares if you are English or German or French or Italian etc. It is a sign of progress and maturity in thinking. Emphasizing superficial ethnic differences is a sign of a juvenile, underdeveloped mind.

Now you can see how this Paki b astard is trying to stir up ethnic animosity between Afghans. Your masquerade has been exposed, Apu. Dirty race of ungrateful namak harams.

[Firdousi]

Yes but for reforms the peace is needed otherwise the unemployment, poverty and other issues will continue to create problems...I wonder Afghan government when they ask foreigner be it US or Pakistan for bringing Taliban or other on negotiation table...
It would be much easy for them to attain peace if they all sit together and resolve the differences whatever they have.
Every afghan i met blame Pakistan and every Pakistani blame India...
Taliban are afghan,Najib was afghan, Hikmatyar , dostum, Atta are all afghan ..Afghan needs to take the ownership instead of blaming others for there own dis unity and prejudice to each other...Same goes for Paksitan

That happens because of the lack of logic and critical thinking. In our countries people are lectured to follow blindly. Since pakis and afghans are uneducated its very easy to fool them no wonder so many of them are always blaming their miseries on neighbors and not taking any responsibility.

BUT I must point out that Afghans, specially those raised in the West, tend to be a bit more critical when it comes to our own country. You see here on this forum most of Afghans are very critic with the Afghan government, with the Taliban, with Pakistan, Iran, KSA, Israel, the West, etc. While average Pakistanis raised in the West visiting this and other forums is extremely biased and bigoted. I believe Pakistanis tend to be a bit more brainwashed.

[toughpashtun]

Now you can see how this Paki b astard is trying to stir up ethnic animosity between Afghans. Your masquerade has been exposed, Apu. Dirty race of ungrateful namak harams.

This forum is seeing more and more visitors and new members of Indian and Punjabi origin lol.
I would never join a forum that was for people of a different ethnicity then mine , heck I wouldn't be interested.

[Markhor]

Just for you an example me and two other afghans are studying 'Elektrotechnik und Informationstechnik' -Elektroengineering and Informationtechnology at the highest ranked university in Germany. There are many afghans from higher semesters and others who study physic/computer science at my university. I dont know any Afghan personally studying art/history which are no doubt venerable courses and I can assure you not one Pakistani i have met until yet on my campus but just Indians.

Information for applicants from Pakistan | Undergraduate Study

More than 54 Pakistani's are currently in Cambridge. I suppose the count from Afghanistan is Zero? It's the same with Other top Universities like Oxford and Ivy League. Your category is Somalia, Eritrea, and Syria not regional powers like Pakistan. Refrain from comparing apples and Oranges

[Markhor]

I live in the West. I've never come across people thinking of Afghans as stupid. I don't know where you got that from. One thing I have seen though, is that on a normal day to day level Pakistanis are not respected at all by any group abroad. That includes Muslims and non Muslims. I myself fully don't know the reason for it but I haven't seen a country that is hated as much as Pakistan.

Please don't get me wrong. My family live in in Pakistan I am not anti Pakistan, but I genuinely haven't been able to figure out why Pakistan and Pakistanis are so unpopular. People that haven never been to Pakistan or know nothing about Pakistan hate the country. As a Muslim country with a nuclear weapon it should be very well respected by the whole Muslim world but unfortunately that isn't the case.

However on the flip side I have noticed that Afghanistan and Afghans although at war with NATO, are still a hell of a lot more respected as compared to Pakistan. This is not a new thing but I have seen this through the decades. It really is very bizarre if you think about it.

It's the same reason why Muslims don't like Israel. Pakistan is a military power with 140 Nuclear warheads and the west will never be a fan of Muslim majority countries as such. They will always be fond of puppet countries like Afghanistan or Syria which are unable to defend itself from any western onslaught. Pakistan is a big thorn in their behind and can get away with blackmailing them physically and emotionally. It's no rocket science why they don't like Pakistan.

[Markhor]

From his Punjabi buddies, he is permanent resident of Islamabad.

Don't worry you will be able to live there one day too if you leave your xenophobic views at home.

[Markhor]

Now you can see how this Paki b astard is trying to stir up ethnic animosity between Afghans. Your masquerade has been exposed, Apu. Dirty race of ungrateful namak harams.

As if Afghans haven't been at each other's throat before? Who do you think destroyed Afghanistan for 40 years? Your cursing and name calling only show that you are desperately lacking any meaningful answer.

[Nertj]

It's the same reason why Muslims don't like Israel. Pakistan is a military power with 140 Nuclear warheads and the west will never be a fan of Muslim majority countries as such. They will always be fond of puppet countries like Afghanistan or Syria which are unable to defend itself from any western onslaught. Pakistan is a big thorn in their behind and can get away with blackmailing them physically and emotionally. It's no rocket science why they don't like Pakistan.

Afghanistan and Pakistan are both puppet states of US, pakistan despite the nukes. None takes Pakistan seriously even with nukes. lol actually most people wonder, how such a country has nukes in the first place.

[Iblis_Efreetzai]

Really. No mention of the rainbow colored elephant in the room then?

Afghanistan is currently home to the US military and the CIA, .... No need to single out Pakistan.

Both of which have a working relationship and collaboration with the Pakistani Military and the ISI...strange you forgot to mention that Elephant.

[Iblis_Efreetzai]

As if Afghans haven't been at each other's throat before? Who do you think destroyed Afghanistan for 40 years? Your cursing and name calling only show that you are desperately lacking any meaningful answer.

And Pakistan had some active involvement in that process during that time ...strangely enough.

[Iblis_Efreetzai]

Now you can see how this Paki b astard is trying to stir up ethnic animosity between Afghans. Your masquerade has been exposed, Apu. Dirty race of ungrateful namak harams.

Truth, ...this guy along was Morkhor were here gloating about having girls prancing around like tramps at Raver parties, Nothing they say is credible

[Iblis_Efreetzai]

Information for applicants from Pakistan | Undergraduate Study

More than 54 Pakistani's are currently in Cambridge. I suppose the count from Afghanistan is Zero? It's the same with Other top Universities like Oxford and Ivy League. Your category is Somalia, Eritrea, and Syria not regional powers like Pakistan. Refrain from comparing apples and Oranges

more than several hundred Pakistanis are in jail for crimes ranging from grooming gangs to drug dealing in the UK ...what's your point?

[Markhor]

Afghanistan and Pakistan are both puppet states of US, pakistan despite the nukes. None takes Pakistan seriously even with nukes. lol actually most people wonder, how such a country has nukes in the first place.

It's not only Nukes. We have the 7th biggest airforce and 6th Biggest army in the world with some of the most sophisticated Missile systems in the region. As for people taking us seriously.

Vicious criticism of Pakistan by US Congress panel - Pakistan - DAWN.COM

More than once Pakistan was called manipulative and accused of treating the United States like chumps.

“They are making chumps out of us. They see us we are being so stupid. It seems like paying the mafia,” said Congressman Matt Salmon, Chairman of the Asia and Pacific Subcommittee of House Foreign Affairs Committee.

“If I may use an undiplomatic term, we have been patsies,” said former US ambassador to Kabul, Baghdad and the United Nations, Zalmay Khalilzad.

That's American Congress for you. How many countries are getting away by bombing US embassies, Indirectly involved in killing their soldiers and sabotaging their interests in the region?

[Markhor]

more than several hundred Pakistanis are in jail for crimes ranging from grooming gangs to drug dealing in the UK ...what's your point?

And American's are killing people left and right and doing all sorts of illegal BS, does that make their Achievements anything less?With Afghans and Afghanistan, there is nothing positive about them.

[Markhor]

And Pakistan had some active involvement in that process during that time ...strangely enough.

Each country has its own interest. Pakistan has every right to follow what is good for them. Your own media keeps on harping about how they should learn the art of diplomacy from Pakistan.