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  • #31
    @ BLS: sir vn u get on the streets of pakhtunkhwa then have a look around nd see hw v have educated our young generation.

    @ muhsina: answers to ur points:

    1) I dont have PUNJABI heros, they are MUSLIM heros. U think i have adopted urdu to get in the good luks of my boss. that actually signifies that u r embarassed of ur culture cz this thot never crossed my mind. This thot wud cross ur mind only if u have sum kind of inferiority complex and in ur case i think u have a great complex. Ur 1st point shows it all too well. Let me tell u sumthn, I m a student in NUST rwp, vn i host any event on university level, my first line of script is always "Pukhtano khalko ta zama salamuna." Although there are no pathans and mayb it wud luk odd to u, but the first thng i tell people is that im a proud pathan. Please try to be less affected by ur inferiority complex.

    2) No, we are not incapable by birth and in near future we will rise up again.Defence budget is sumthng that has almost got to do nothing with us cz its a problem for all provinces so its not only our headach. about education, i dnt expect einstiens, bt i expect a population that is not drugged all the tym, that atleast gives a **** about an independant homeland. u think 300 pakhtuns here represent the entire race? wot pakhtun leader do v have now?? there is not even 1 that is brave and can lead, ppl like u who think v vant a separate homeland in current conditions are playing in the hands of CIA. CIA world map showed Pakhtunkhva to be a separate homeland, Its on their agenda to get Pakhtunkhwa. So isnt ur agenda same to the CIA?? think about it! OR mayb u take CIA to be ur well wisher. In their eyes, we are all muslims, not pinjabis or pathans, vn theyll kill, theyll jst thnk abt muslims, not abt punjabis or pathans.

    3) Dont u get it, Punjabis have been the favs cz its only them, who are the dictators? Punjabis rite!! pathans were too busy being proud to get to gud positions. ANP people are sick blood suckers. there has never been a more corrupt political party. ANP is not eligible to rule. I dnt thnk u live in k.p, has ANP done anythng in 3 years? anythning atall?? NO!! ASFANDYAR IS WHATT??!! yara have i ever been in k.p??? have u seen their khan qilas?? ASFANDYAR is just cashing in the name of great ppl like, bacha khan nd ghani khan. now if vr not qualified even to get our own media networks, v shud b ashamed, ur talking like there is no newspaper or channel from k.p! there are many, but asfandyar hasnt done anythng that need to be highlighted. He even ran like a lil coward to the british by single bombblast, dnt u remember?? Sir Syed was a muslim hero, mayb pathans wud be worshiping him, had he been a pahtan.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Qazi Saad Yousafzai View Post
      @ BLS: sir vn u get on the streets of pakhtunkhwa then have a look around nd see hw v have educated our young generation.

      @ muhsina: answers to ur points:

      1) I dont have PUNJABI heros, they are MUSLIM heros. U think i have adopted urdu to get in the good luks of my boss. that actually signifies that u r embarassed of ur culture cz this thot never crossed my mind. This thot wud cross ur mind only if u have sum kind of inferiority complex and in ur case i think u have a great complex. Ur 1st point shows it all too well. Let me tell u sumthn, I m a student in NUST rwp, vn i host any event on university level, my first line of script is always "Pukhtano khalko ta zama salamuna." Although there are no pathans and mayb it wud luk odd to u, but the first thng i tell people is that im a proud pathan. Please try to be less affected by ur inferiority complex.

      2) No, we are not incapable by birth and in near future we will rise up again.Defence budget is sumthng that has almost got to do nothing with us cz its a problem for all provinces so its not only our headach. about education, i dnt expect einstiens, bt i expect a population that is not drugged all the tym, that atleast gives a **** about an independant homeland. u think 300 pakhtuns here represent the entire race? wot pakhtun leader do v have now?? there is not even 1 that is brave and can lead, ppl like u who think v vant a separate homeland in current conditions are playing in the hands of CIA. CIA world map showed Pakhtunkhva to be a separate homeland, Its on their agenda to get Pakhtunkhwa. So isnt ur agenda same to the CIA?? think about it! OR mayb u take CIA to be ur well wisher. In their eyes, we are all muslims, not pinjabis or pathans, vn theyll kill, theyll jst thnk abt muslims, not abt punjabis or pathans.

      3) Dont u get it, Punjabis have been the favs cz its only them, who are the dictators? Punjabis rite!! pathans were too busy being proud to get to gud positions. ANP people are sick blood suckers. there has never been a more corrupt political party. ANP is not eligible to rule. I dnt thnk u live in k.p, has ANP done anythng in 3 years? anythning atall?? NO!! ASFANDYAR IS WHATT??!! yara have i ever been in k.p??? have u seen their khan qilas?? ASFANDYAR is just cashing in the name of great ppl like, bacha khan nd ghani khan. now if vr not qualified even to get our own media networks, v shud b ashamed, ur talking like there is no newspaper or channel from k.p! there are many, but asfandyar hasnt done anythng that need to be highlighted. He even ran like a lil coward to the british by single bombblast, dnt u remember?? Sir Syed was a muslim hero, mayb pathans wud be worshiping him, had he been a pahtan.

      more vn u write more....
      I am well aware of the education of our generation, but to be frank Qazi saib since when were Pashtuns very educated? Can you name me a time, an era where Pashtuns were even 30 or 40% educated.
      What are you talking about? Defense is a major issue for us, since they are pursuing a defense policy in your homeland? Do you think ISI goes there and sets up picnics? lolzz please be realistic. ANP is corrupt no doubt, but their 3 years can't clean the 30 year mess of Islamabad. A generation was destroyed by it, it will take more than a generation to clean it up (on the assumption we can get away from one lasthunrii maraan in Islamabad, maybe their step dads as well). Thaso domra khkaara nahaqqa khabara kawae che za hairaan yamm che senga thaso da oleekall.
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      • #33
        i agree, pakhtuns were never well educated, and due to this, can u name an era vn pakhtuns were completly peaceful and developing??
        Yes it wud take a generation, but not a generation of drug addicts, rather a generation of intelligent people! We pathans have a very common habit of blaming all the other people involved for our defeats. Have u ever seen history let the ignorant people develop?? v never will develop if v try to, v have to make ourselves eligible to rule in the eyes of Allah!

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Qazi Saad Yousafzai View Post
          i agree, pakhtuns were never well educated, and due to this, can u name an era vn pakhtuns were completly peaceful and developing??
          Yes it wud take a generation, but not a generation of drug addicts, rather a generation of intelligent people! We pathans have a very common habit of blaming all the other people involved for our defeats. Have u ever seen history let the ignorant people develop?? v never will develop if v try to, v have to make ourselves eligible to rule in the eyes of Allah!
          First say Pashtun/Pakhtun/Afghan but not Pathan. It is a british connotation. Manana. Bala khabaraa daa da che drug addicts kho praegdaa awal agha kam siyasii ddalae che stha pur ziddh dee agho pa tharf kaa. Before one can elgible to rule he should know his friends and foes. So saiba I would request to know who they are first then worry about other things.
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          • #35
            did i mention any where in my posts that punjabis or anyone ur trying to imply here, are our frnds? and plz grow up, calling a pakhtun even an apple wudnt make a difference. dont act like children.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Qazi Saad Yousafzai View Post
              did i mention any where in my posts that punjabis or anyone ur trying to imply here, are our frnds? and plz grow up, calling a pakhtun even an apple wudnt make a difference. dont act like children.
              You said panjabis not me (i mentioned the state of Pakistan). I told you to know what your friends and foes are. I don't understand why that was the wrong thing to say?
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              • #37
                dude, wot part dont u get? Muslims are my friends!

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Qazi Saad Yousafzai View Post
                  dude, wot part dont u get? Muslims are my friends!
                  lollzz so did I say leave islam or be their enemies?
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                  • #39
                    no but u have to stop sayin PAK this and PAK that! instead of joining hands, ur encouraging a homeland based on racial harmony rather than religious unity!

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Qazi Saad Yousafzai View Post
                      no but u have to stop sayin PAK this and PAK that! instead of joining hands, ur encouraging a homeland based on racial harmony rather than religious unity!
                      No I am just exposing it for what it is. If you want to believe something like this based by the British and created by them. By all means support it, however don't use Islam as the basis when clearly it is not.
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                      • #41
                        u dont want Islam to be the basis. Splendid afghan intellegence have got them so developed i see.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Qazi Saad Yousafzai View Post
                          u dont want Islam to be the basis. Splendid afghan intellegence have got them so developed i see.
                          Where did you get this from? Aah from your imagination lolzz. Buddy keep this up and you will see the exposing of Pakistan's ideology and state lolzz. See you barely know me and now you are judging me on my deen. Good job.
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                          • #43

                            This article has a big flaw when the author says;

                            "The Baloch nationalists refer back to special arrangements the region had during the British period, and consequently challenge the validity of the accession to Pakistan and plead their case for a sovereign Balochistan on that ground. Without passing any legal or moral judgement on the validity of this claim, I argue that in 1947 and the period surrounding it, a political map of the subcontinent was to be drawn with only India and Pakistan as sovereign entities on it, leaving little room for other entities to claim sovereignty."

                            Here either the author doesn't know or deliberately becomes vague when he can't clearly differentiate between British Balochistan and the Qalat States Union. The former was an overwhemingly Pashtun dominated region named a misnomer as British Balochistan which had over 90 percent Pashtun Population. On the other hand the Qalat States Union which included the biggest state of Qalat and Makran, Kharan and Lasbela. This is actually the land wich belongs to Baloch nation. The Qalat State Union was outside the British India and the British rulers had only lease contract with them. Baloch of Qalat States Union got their independence from the British on 15th August 1947, while Pakistan occupied Qalat States Union in 1948. The two territories of of Pashtun and Baloch, i.e., British Balochistan (later on named as Quetta Commissionerate) and Qalat States Union were separate until 1955 when the rule of One Unit was imposed. The two different administrative units were merged much later in 1968 and a new province Balochistan was formed which includes both Baloch and Pashtun nations now. So he deliberately forgets Pashtuns and tries to hide the facts about Qalat States Union which was militarily occupied by Pakistan and ironically it lay outside the British India.

                            Here the author repeates the same blunder again;

                            "The historical memory of being wronged in 1947-48 was further consolidated with the slapping of One Unit in 1955, which merged Balochistan with other West Pakistan provinces into a single administrative unit."


                            This clearly shows that the author is quite unaware of the history and so the real situation on the ground when he asserts that Pashtun have been completely co-opted by Punjab/Pakistan.
                            Last edited by khyaal; 08-11-2010, 07:11 PM.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by shlombay
                              Khyaal at this point we need to write our own articles in which we demand for loy Afghanistan. It will help raise media attention.
                              Yes, you are right we should concentrate on making our case for loy Afghanistan. We shouldn't credulously follow these Punjabi/Pakistani quacks and sophists.

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                              • #45
                                @BLS: no i judge u by the fact that u always talk abt afghans and punjabiz first, without giving any thought to the Islamic bond they have with us. Where do u live BLS? i mean city?

                                duh! loye afghanistan, that wud surely become an indian proxy to Israel backed India to contain the then remaining muslim states in the region.

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