Pakistan’s Easter tragedy highlights failed state status

[Adam]

The ones asking for a source are considered jahil by a person named "logical", oh boy...

[logical]

You totally flip flopped earlier you said it was Taraki's Pashtunistan that started it. And that's why Zia went in, now you're saying it was Ali Butto

Stick to a narrative when you're caught with your pants down kid. Pakistani nationalists are in panick mode right now

[MENTION=18484]Porus[/MENTION] keep this coming, IL-Logical is backed into a corner, he just switched up what he said from earlier.

No you troll, your illogical arguments only shows you want to live in denial. I was talking about Zia and Taraki because of Soviet invasion. This doesn't mean the ones who came before him didn't want civil war in Pakistan or the fact that Bhutto supported anti-Kabul groups in Afghanistan in response to pashtunistan movement.

You said pashtunistan movement of Afghani leaders died with Daud Khan lol one most be either retarded or troll to believe that.

[Iblis_Efreetzai]

No you troll, your illogical arguments only shows you want to live in denial. I was talking about Zia and Taraki because of Soviet invasion. This doesn't mean the ones who came before him didn't want civil war in Pakistan or the fact that Bhutto supported anti-Kabul groups in Afghanistan in response to pashtunistan movement.

You said pashtunistan movement of Afghani leaders died with Daud Khan lol one most be either retarded or troll to believe that.

Your words from the last page ......Il-Logical

All problems started because of Taraki pashtunistan movment, he wanted Soviets to help him and offered them access to warm waters in case his plans of civil war in Pakistan worked. Same Soviets who later on will abduct young afghan women and rape them. Only afghani will invite foreigners to rape their daughters.

You just got caught.

[logical]

Your words from the last page ......Il-Logical



You just got caught.

Because unlike his predecessor Taraki invited Soviets, are you diagnosed with autism? Taraki was the one to start this mess we know as Afghanistan today.

[Iblis_Efreetzai]

Because unlike his predecessor Taraki invited Soviets, are you diagnosed with autism? Taraki was the one to start this mess we know as Afghanistan today.

Your reading comprehension sucks ****. You wrote It ALL STARTED with Taraki and the Pashtunistan issue.


Pashtunistan issue was already with Pashtun natiomalists in what is now Modern day KPK who rejected joining Pakkistan!.
Pakistan & the Karakoram Highway - Sarina Singh - Google Books

[logical]

Your reading comprehension sucks ****. You wrote It ALL STARTED with Taraki and the Pashtunistan issue.


Pashtunistan issue was already with Pashtun natiomalists in what is now Modern day KPK who rejected joining Pakkistan!.
Pakistan & the Karakoram Highway - Sarina Singh - Google Books

I didn't say anywhere that pashtunistan movement started with Taraki. But the problems and mess as we know it started because of Taraki, can't you read?

Now since you are diagnosed with autism so I will explain slowly. Pakistan used to host anti-Kabul insurgents because Afghanistan did same. All Taraki had to do was assure Islamabad that he will not support pashtunistan movement and in return expect Pakistan to not support anti-Kabul forces with in Afghanistan. But as we know he backtracked from his promise and rest is history.

KPK rejected joining Pakistan lol, kid let's stick with current topic on hand. Because you are either troll or autistic, hopefully former.

[Iblis_Efreetzai]

I didn't say anywhere that pashtunistan movement started with Taraki. But the problems and mess as we know it started because of Taraki, can't you read?

Now since you are diagnosed with autism so I will explain slowly. Pakistan used to host anti-Kabul insurgents because Afghanistan did same. All Taraki had to do was assure Islamabad that he will not support pashtunistan movement and in return expect Pakistan to not support anti-Kabul forces with in Afghanistan. But as we know he backtracked from his promise and rest is history.

KPK rejected joining Pakistan lol, kid let's stick with current topic on hand. Because you are either troll or autistic, hopefully former.

You wrote this.

All problems started because of Taraki pashtunistan movment, he wanted Soviets to help him and offered them access to warm waters in case his plans of civil war in Pakistan worked..

Pashtuns of this region were already engaged in this long before this was a factor; ....Stop obfuscating Il-logical, it's not working.


I'm not even a supporter of Pashtunistan and Pashun nationalism and I know this.

Goodness ....

[Porus]

KPK rejected joining Pakistan lol, kid[?] let's stick with current topic on hand. Because you are either troll or autistic, hopefully former.

Pashtunistan issue was already with Pashtun natiomalists in what is now Modern day KPK who rejected joining Pakkistan!.

Them comprehension skills tho! Das sum cognitive fortitude right dere mang

[Porus]

Taraki pakhtoonistan movement! ENEMIES OF PAK. down with baraki, najib nd communist fascists

pakistan zindabad jeevay jeevay

[Iblis_Efreetzai]

Them comprehension skills tho! Das sum cognitive fortitude right dere mang

I want MODs?ADMIN to change his screen name to ILLOGICAL, this twirp can't even read properly.

[Porus]

Are you jahil or what? You don't even know basic history of Pakistan. I'm 56 years old and seen relations between Pakistan and Afghanistan closely. You keep mentioning Daud Khan like autistic kid as if he was lone proponent of pashtunistan. Even now Afghani leaders keep saying durandline is illegal. But it will be like beating a dead horse at this point so Pakistan doesn't respond in same way like it did back in 80's.

lol kid just stick to current topic on hand

Read about Taraki and how he offered Soviets access to warm waters in case they helped him get rid of anti-state insurgents and to instigate civil war in Pakistan for pashtunistan. Despite the fact that Baloch are anything but pashtuns.

lol kid just stick to current topic on hand

There is famous Zia speech somewhere on youtube where he ask Pakistanis to support Afghan brothers in jihad against Soviets because their next target will be Pakistan. Soviets were not interested in invading Pakistan but to divide it and merge coastal regions of Balochistan with Afghanistan. In this case they will get direct access to Gwadar with only Afghanistan in between them. A deal similar to what Pakistan have done by giving Gwadar port to China.

lol kid just stick to current topic on hand

[logical]

You wrote this.



Pashtuns of this region were already engaged in this long before this was a factor; ....Stop obfuscating Il-logical, it's not working.


I'm not even a supporter of Pashtunistan and Pashun nationalism and I know this.

Goodness ....

I will repeat even more slowly this time because you are little slow.

All this mess started with Taraki open support to pashtunistan after Daud Khan, which made Zia continue to interference in Afghanistan. But this time Taraki had signed deal with Soviets. If Pakistan didn't host anti-Kabul insurgents then today situation would have been very different. Afghanistan may have been on right track and most importantly no Soviet invasion and later on American.I hope you know what happened next.

[Iblis_Efreetzai]

I will repeat even more slowly this time because you are little slow.

All this mess started with Taraki open support to pashtunistan after Daud Khan, which made Zia continue to interference in Afghanistan. But this time Taraki had signed deal with Soviets. If Pakistan didn't host anti-Kabul insurgents then today situation would have been very different. Afghanistan may have been on right track and most importantly no Soviet invasion and later on American.I hope you know what happened next.

see, you just flip flopped and now you're back peddling and changing things to make it seem you meant something else.

failure.

[Elite Pakhtun]

Neither do you.

Bro don't even get me started. Here, I'll give you some basic rebuttals, but I don't have the patience (nor do I think I'll gain in any way) to put in more detail than this.

There was a 'period' but that all lead up to the Kargil War which was disastrous for both countries.

Pfffffffftt... my god. So noob. Sooooo nooooobbbbb. Kargil War was during Nawaz Sharif's previous tenure, before the coup de etat. Yes, Mush was COAS, but a few months after the war ended, at some point Nawaz tried to block Mush's plane from landing (after he was abroad somewhere), and Mush didn't take too kindly to that and launched a coup ie martial law. He banished NS to Saudi Arabia, which is where he stayed.

The 'period' of peace that I'm talking about was in the 2000s, buddy. Far past Kargil war.

Noob.

Yet again sending footsoldiers disguised as 'militants' just like 1948 under Operation Badr. Good relations are always on the surface with Indo-Pak anyway.

Kargil War wasn't disasterous for either. Pak was already under economic sanctions for testing their nukes. It can barely be called a war. In fact, until recently, I was under the impression that it was NOT a war. It was just a brief skirmish, in Kargil, Indiot Kashmir. There was threat of war, but it never transpired. Any international news channel you'd put on (BBC, CNN, etc), you'd hear pundits basically saying that "if it does go to war, it will definitely go nuclear".

Nothing happened post Kargil. A few soldiers on both sides killed, in fact India even lost some planes. It was a pussified war of attrition which was never escalated beyond (thank god).

[PakMan]

Afghan IBLIS EFREETZAI and Hindu POROUS "failed chanakya soldier lol"

boys listen up

Our country is very different from urs, we are irrational we are reckless we are winners we are losers we are ruthless we are brilliant we are puzzling We are stupid and we are spectacular.
It's very hard to figure out the protocols that govern our larger society we are a land of great contradictions and the best part is WE FUC KIN LOVE IT THE WAY IT IS

You can't change us so stop boiling ur blood over how bad Pakistan is its futile we don't give a hoot we ain't gonna change understand!