What makes Pakistan better than the Taliban?

[DaZahroJaam.]

The fact that your attitude towards me changed when you came to know my background,and not because of what I said in my earlier posts proves that I did not say anything offensive in my posts but its because of your prejudice towards my country's armed forces. Which is not surprising.
Secondly,I am as much a Pashtun as you are.Having served in Pakistan army does not change one's ethnicity.
You are at liberty if you want to discuss anything with me or not, but first I'll make a few things clear for the information of not just you but also other members.
I am not here on this forum on any anti-Afghan agenda or anything of that sort. My prime reason is to discuss various matters and voice my opinion on issues on a Pashtun platform.Therefore, I show respect to all.Yes in one or two instances I might have written a comment where I may have come across as a typical Afghan hater, but that is mainly because you guys create hostility in the atmosphere on this forum.
Also, I am not anti-Afghanistan per say as most Pakistanis are nowadays.I may not be in favour of the current Afghan government,But I consider the Afghan people,especially the Pashtuns , to be my own people and blood.I want to see Afghanistan happy and peaceful,just as I have these feelings for Pakistan.
In fact, I am dead against the cruel treatment that Pakistan is carrying out with Afghan refugees.And particularly the fact that they create hurdles for Afghans wanting to cross over into Pakistan,many of whom are actually in search of medical treatment etc.
There is a lot of hatred out there,and I don't want to add to it.
Also, you can't expect everyone to have the same social and political views as yourself.There is a thing called difference of opinion.

In the end , I just want to pose a question,especially for you,DZJ , but anyone else can also answer it:
You are bitter towards Pakistan specifically the army and establishment due to their policies in Afghanistan.Can you give a positive and logical suggestion as to what the Pakistani policy towards Afghanistan should have been in :
1) The soviet period
2) Najib period(after soviet pull out)
3) Mujahideen/topakyaan infighting /civil war period
4)Taliban govt
5)American war

i don't know why but i have always been under the impression that Tetley was a middle eastern/asian tea brand. though i have still not checked out to figure out where exactly that product is manufactured, i have slightly shifted my that opinion as of recently. i would like for it to be an argentanian brand. argentania seems like the type of a country where good tea brands come from.

[DaZahroJaam.]

i accidentally read half of your first sentence. my attitude towards you did not change because you are a pakistani or because you have served in the pakistani army. my attitude towards you changed because you said that i had spoken without thinking first. i am going to hold that against you for a very long time.

[khushal]

ISI is a third world agency. Only people who believe ISI is the best security agency in the world are retarded Paki nationalist morons.

BTW your Pashto sucks. Just like yourself lmao

Be careful senorita, dont shoot your pedophile warlord narrative in the foot of insurgent = ISI.
Besides Tajiks, Uzbeks, Turkmens also are fighting your pedophile warlords, oops, I mean joining the ISI.
Ethnic Minorities Are Fueling the Taliban’s Expansion in Afghanistan | Foreign Policy
The Non-Pashtun Taleban of the North: A case study from Badakhshan | Afghanistan Analysts Network

yippy ka yay motherfckr

Oh BTW your superior Persian sounds gay:
Maz Jobrani Persians vs Arabs - YouTube

[Firdousi]

Be careful senorita, dont shoot your pedophile warlord narrative in the foot of insurgent = ISI.
Besides Tajiks, Uzbeks, Turkmens also are fighting your pedophile warlords, oops, I mean joining the ISI.
Ethnic Minorities Are Fueling the Taliban’s Expansion in Afghanistan | Foreign Policy
The Non-Pashtun Taleban of the North: A case study from Badakhshan | Afghanistan Analysts Network

yippy ka yay motherfckr

Oh BTW your superior Persian sounds gay:
Maz Jobrani Persians vs Arabs - YouTube

bla, bla, bla, bla lmao

[Peshawer_2222]

You didn't answer bro. I mean we all do agree with you that Pakistan is a cheap creation but that doesn't answer my question: what makes your disgusting third world sh*thole better than those barbaric goat*****rs?

The cheap creation is shelling and bombing your country as we speak and taking out the militants without your permission . Occupied country don't get to ask questions . Also Pakistan is a regional political power not a banana republic like Afghanistan , That is why it is more important .

[khushal]

bla, bla, bla, bla lmao

Please, we dont need to hear how a superior persian fart sound like. lol

[Firdousi]

The cheap creation is shelling and bombing your country as we speak and taking out the militants without your permission . Occupied country don't get to ask questions . Also Pakistan is a regional political power not a banana republic like Afghanistan , That is why it is more important .

According your own terrorist establishment over 200 Pakis have been killed in a matter of few days at the behest of my banana republic country. Not bad.

Now cry me a river lmao

[Firdousi]

Please, we dont need to hear how a superior persian fart sound like. lol

Shut up dalkhor lol

[khushal]

Shut up dalkhor lol

You lack wit. No originality. I miss sparring with Iblis cause he never ran away and he responded with wit.

[toughpashtun]

According your own terrorist establishment over 200 Pakis have been killed in a matter of few days at the behest of my banana republic country. Not bad.

Now cry me a river lmao

My country is f**king up your country pretty badly too, for the past so many decades.We are winning atm.Now just imagine what it would be like for you farsiwaans when Afghanistan becomes part of Loy Pakistan.
I feel sorry for people like Firdousi.They don't have the guts to say all this stuff in real life to a Pakistani, so they vent out their frustration behind a computer screen.

[toughpashtun]

People like Firdousi are namak harams and be-ghairats of the highest order.They flee to Pakistan when they are being butchered in their own country , establish themselves,enjoy our hospitality and brotherhood, and then like snakes bite the hand that feeds it.
On the contrary,when the Indian official raped that Afghan girl, he was forgiven by your same people.

[toughpashtun]

Throwback to June 2016.
The bacha baaz ANA and Pak army come face to face due to a border dispute.Scores of ANA dead within a few days.With their wet and soiled pants,the ANA give up and Pak army resumes the construction of gate at Torkham.

[toughpashtun]

Pakistani armed forces have kicked Afghan ass many a time.

The following is an incomplete list of recent events relating to the Afghanistan–Pakistan skirmishes. Most of these events cannot be independently verified because news journalists usually have very limited access to reaching the areas where the fighting take place.

13 May 2007 - Afghan soldiers attacked Pakistani military outposts which they claimed were illegally built on Afghan soil, one Pakistani soldier was injured. Pakistan's military responded with artillery fire on targets in Afghanistan, reportedly destroying three ANA border posts killing 32 Afghan soldiers.[15] Afghanistan also accused Pakistani military ground contingent crossed the border more than a mile into Afghanistan's Paktia province and killed two Afghan civilians. Gen. Azimi also accused the Pakistani military of using artillery, saying the alleged attack was a clear violation.[16]
3 February 2011 - One Pakistani and 7 Afghan soldiers were killed and three others injured after a clash broke out along the border between Pakistani and Afghan forces including an Afghan Colonel. 3 Afghan Soldiers was arrested by Pakistani Forces and later returned. An Afghan commander in Khost confirmed the exchange of fire and alleged that the incident broke out after Pakistani troops in Waziristan opened fire towards Afghan police posts in Gurbuz District, claiming the Afghan engagement as retaliation. However, a military official in Peshawar said Afghan troops fired on an army check post in Ghulam Khan, North Waziristan and that the fire emanated from Afghan territory first. "We are responding with artillery and mortars," he added.[17]
April 28, 2011 - Border firing broke out in South Waziristan. At least 12 Afghan troops and one soldier from the Pakistan Frontier Corps were killed in the clash, although another source put the Afghan casualties at 8. The attack came just a week after Afghan soldiers had struck in Lower Dir, killing 2 Pakistani security personnel and 40 militants. According to the Pakistani military, Afghan troops opened "unprovoked firing" from across the border and also damaged a market, causing troops from the Pakistani side to respond with fire. However, Afghanistan blamed Pakistan for the clash and denied any Afghan casualties, claiming that only three Pakistani troops were killed. According to Pakistani intelligence analysts, foreign coalition forces have been encouraging Afghan troops to attack border posts. Pakistan also demanded an immediate meeting to discuss the incident.[18]
June 2011 - Afghanistan blamed Pakistan for killing dozens of Afghan civilians in cross-border shelling conducted for several months. The Afghan government called for the immediate cessation of the artillery fire from Pakistan against Afghan villages. Gen. Zahir Azimi said around 150 missiles fired from Pakistan had landed in different areas of Kunar province.[19]
July 2011 - Over 150 Afghans in Kabul took to the streets to protest and condemn what they alleged as continuous cross-border shelling and bombardment by Pakistan in Afghanistan's eastern provinces that were said to have killed 12 and left a few wounded. The angry protesters expressed anger over the 470 rockets fired into Afghanistan allegedly from the Pakistani side. Pakistan rejected the Afghan government accusations, saying a "few accidental rounds" may have been fired when it chased unknown militants who had crossed over from Afghanistan and attacked its security installments.[20]
19 July 2011 - Pakistan claimed that over 20 mortar shells were fired from Afghanistan which killed 4 Pakistani soldiers and wounded another 2. Pakistan blamed the Afghan National Army for the attack.[21]
27 August 2011 - at least 2 Pakistani security personnel were killed and seven others injured in Chitral after militants crossed the border from Nuristan province and initiated firing. The Pakistani government blamed Afghanistan, saying since their expulsion from Pakistani tribal areas, militants were regrouping in Kunar and Nuristan with the support of local Afghan authorities.[22]
7 September 2011 - Protesters from Chitral staged a demonstration outside the Peshawar Press Club against an alleged continuous Taliban infiltration into Pakistan from Afghanistan, including the abduction of 30 Pakistani children a week ago on the day of Eid ul-Fitr. The protestors said they would stand against insurgents if their region was attacked in the future and blamed the Afghan government, claiming that Afghan authorities and NATO forces were failing to contain Afghanistan-based militants. The protestors also urged the need to increase the presence of border forces and called on the federal government to take up the issue with the Afghan government to avoid future incidents.[23]
25 September 2011 - Afghan authorities claimed that more than 340 rockets had been fired over the course of four days from Pakistani territory. The rockets damaged a few buildings, resulted in the death of a child and also forced hundreds to flee their homes. An employee from the Afghan Ministry of the Interior did not disclose the source of the cross-border shelling but said: "We call on Pakistan, whoever is behind the attacks, to prevent it immediately."[24]
10 October 2011 - Pakistani security forces claimed that they killed 30 Afghan militants when a group of 200 insurgents from Afghanistan crossed the border into Pakistan. One Pakistani soldier was also killed in the exchange.[25]
12 January 2012 - Pakistani Special Forces Troops from elite Special Services Group entered 4 to 5 km deep inside Afghan borders from Lower Dir area in pursuit of militants. Afghan Forces opened fire in retaliation, 11 Afghan Soldiers were killed in the exchange of fire. Pakistan immediately withdrew without any casualties. Afghanistan also blamed SSG Commandos for taking away the body of a killed Afghan Army Major.
8 June 2013 - Pakistan Army Aviation Bell AH-1 Cobra Gunship Helicopters crossed the border from North Waziristan into Paktia and hit 3 TTP Targets before returning.
20 December 2014 - JF-17 Thunders from Pakistan Air Force Western Air Command Flew into Afghanistan in Kunar Province and reportedly hit 27 Targets. Air Strikes were carried out in three phases throughout the Night and reportedly 50 militants were killed. An Afghan soldier was also killed when an Afghan mobile Patrol was mistakenly identified as a militant vehicle by Pakistani Aircraft, SSG was also sent in to get the bodies of as many militants as possible. ANA Troops did not retaliate to the Pakistani Aircraft as the Ministry of Defence (Afghanistan) directed not to engage Pakistani Forces.

[toughpashtun]

To all the Afghans who have read my past few posts:
I have suddenly become harsh due to repeated provocative comments by the waste of space called Firdousi,as opposed to my general nature.
In general,I bear no grudge towards Afghans or Afghanistan.By the same token, I couldn't have more hatred for the Afghan govt or forces who like to suck Indian b***s.

[Firdousi]

People like Firdousi are namak harams and be-ghairats of the highest order.They flee to Pakistan when they are being butchered in their own country , establish themselves,enjoy our hospitality and brotherhood, and then like snakes bite the hand that feeds it.
On the contrary,when the Indian official raped that Afghan girl, he was forgiven by your same people.

Buaaaa, buaaaaa, buaaaaaaa, BUAAAAAAAAAAAAA! lmao