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  • #16
    Originally posted by Porus View Post
    I find that the question itself is flawed. Pakistan owns the Taliban. They are simply certain groups that we support in order to further our objectives. If that objective is to rid Afghanistan of Indian influence, then yes, we'll support them. If it means that Afghans can't accept the Durand line, then fine, Afghans should have no problem dealing with other 'Afghans' crossing this 'fake boundary' and committing atrocities in their territory.

    It's a two-way street. If you want cordial relations with India, then you have to understand that Pakistan can't give you that. If you want to trade with India, sorry, we don't give Iran access to India either. For whatever reason, we don't like India. For Afghans to be so vehement on the idea that they should be friends with India is a cause of worry for Pakistan. If Afghans sincerely hated Iran, and Afghans and Pakistanis were friends, we wouldn't deal with Iran. We already don't. So why this need to be so 'pro-India'? Furthermore, to extend this hatred of Pakistan into some strange superiority complex is silly. It doesn't help you, nor does it help us.

    So it is ok to kill innocent people, just to achieve your purpose and get rid of Indian influence from Afghanistan? This is the Panju mindset I will never get. Now you guys are crying when your own Panju ass being bombed, doesn't it feel good to taste your own medicine?

    Lets be honest, at the end of the day Afghanistan is a separate country, Panjus have nothing to do with it, you can't conquer it. Afghans actually have a right now to kill and bomb your panju ass and trust me, they will get help from wherever they can get including India. It is you Panjus who have started this ugly game of violence and killing and this will end in your Panjabistan, mark my words

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Karachi View Post
      So it is ok to kill innocent people, just to achieve your purpose and get rid of Indian influence from Afghanistan? This is the Panju mindset I will never get. Now you guys are crying when your own Panju ass being bombed, doesn't it feel good to taste your own medicine?
      It's not my perspective buddy. This is how Pakistan thinks, what I think has nothing to do with it. Pakistan says that if Afghanistan wants friendship with India then forget about asking us to make that happen. From the Pakistani perspective, it actually makes sense. Pakistan and India don't like each other. So why should Afghans expect Pakistan to open its routes to India?

      Lets be honest, at the end of the day Afghanistan is a separate country, Panjus have nothing to do with it you can't conquer it. Afghans actually have a right now to kill and bomb your panju ass and trust me, they will get help from wherever they can get including India. It is you Panjus who have started this ugly game of violence and killing and this will end in your Panjabistan, mark my words
      Aw. I'm so sorry you feel that way.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Porus View Post
        It's not my perspective buddy. This is how Pakistan thinks, what I think has nothing to do with it. Pakistan says that if Afghanistan wants friendship with India then forget about asking us to make that happen. From the Pakistani perspective, it actually makes sense. Pakistan and India don't like each other. So why should Afghans expect Pakistan to open its routes to India?



        Aw. I'm so sorry you feel that way.

        And you support that perspective like most Pakis and then you ask guys like me, why dont I support Pakistan? why in the world would I support a evil state like this? who's only purpose is to cause destruction to the region

        It is not that India/Pakistan hate each other, it is only Pakis hating Indians to be honest, Indian hate is usually reactionary, Indians in fact are too weak in their reactions. Indians easily could have destroyed your whole army in 1971, when everyone of you surrendered like cowards, yet Indians still sent most of the soldiers back as peace gesture. Even if the Kashmir issue is resolved, pakis will still keep causing destruction to the whole region, that is the problem. You dont want to live yourself, and wont let the entire region live

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Porus View Post


          Aw. I'm so sorry you feel that way.
          You deserve it though, for years you have done the same to the entire region

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          • #20
            Jokes apart, a lot. Pakistan is not self destructive. There is a strategy behind what they do. They use others to get their dirty work done. Talibs are being used and are self destructive animals. Talibs capture foreigners and let them stay in their guest rooms, feed them and play host to them for years under the name of hospitality but don't hesitate from slaughtering ten year olds or people of their own land for being "spies".
            The respect that you extend to these foreigners or their women, why can't you extend that kindness or respect to your own people too??.

            "To burn always with this hard gemlike flame, to maintain this ecstasy, is success in life."





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            • #21
              Originally posted by Karachi View Post
              And you support that perspective like most Pakis and then you ask guys like me, why dont I support Pakistan? why in the world would I support a evil state like this? who's only purpose is to cause destruction to the region
              Brother, I don't support them. I'm simply telling you their method of putting Afghans in their place. At the end of the day, Pakistan would rather have its own citizens killed than grant Afghanistan access to India, this is just the way it is. I didn't write the rules.

              It is not that India/Pakistan hate each other, it is only Pakis hating Indians to be honest, Indian hate is usually reactionary, Indians in fact are too weak in their reactions.
              Uh, Indians hate Pakistanis plenty. In fact their media is ripe with hatred against Pakistan. Every other show by Arnab Goswami or Rohit Sardana is Indians on a panel interrupting their Pakistani interlocutors. To be honest I don't blame them, but I have to admit they're far more badtameez than we would be if they attended our channels.

              Indians easily could have destroyed your whole army in 1971, when everyone of you surrendered like cowards, yet Indians still sent most of the soldiers back as peace gesture. Even if the Kashmir issue is resolved, pakis will still keep causing destruction to the whole region, that is the problem. You dont want to live yourself, and wont let the entire region live
              Well, guess what. Indians were too scared to kill us. That's why we still live and attack them. Typical of Indian buzdilee to not follow through.

              Originally posted by Karachi View Post
              You deserve it though, for years you have done the same to the entire region
              Just give us Kashmir, why is that so hard lol

              The entire problem would be resolved if you just give us what we want.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Da Bannu Mazdigar View Post
                Because this region belong to Pakistan and we are far too important to be isolated while ttp is a cheap creation of raw/nds.

                Agree???
                If TTP was created and formed by RAW and India, why did General Sardar Hussian of the Pakistani armed forces sip tea with its founder Nek Mohammad Wazir!

                If TTP are RAW and Indian agents, why have so many former Pakistani soldiers turned onto their side in the name of Islamic Jihad.

                If TTP are RAW and Indian agents, then that means COL Imam was butchered by India yet you bomb IDPS in Waziristan.

                The whole blame India culture on TTP in Pakistan is a bit too old now.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by DaZahroJaam. View Post
                  Jokes apart, a lot. Pakistan is not self destructive. There is a strategy behind what they do. They use others to get their dirty work done. Talibs are being used and are self destructive animals. Talibs capture foreigners and let them stay in their guest rooms, feed them and play host to them for years under the name of hospitality but don't hesitate from slaughtering ten year olds or people of their own land for being "spies".
                  The respect that you extend to these foreigners or their women, why can't you extend that kindness or respect to your own people too??.
                  Their own monsters are coming to bite them in the ass through, with so many bombings, this is what happens when you allow so many terrorist groups on your soil

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Porus View Post
                    Brother, I don't support them. I'm simply telling you their method of putting Afghans in their place. At the end of the day, Pakistan would rather have its own citizens killed than grant Afghanistan access to India, this is just the way it is. I didn't write the rules.



                    Uh, Indians hate Pakistanis plenty. In fact their media is ripe with hatred against Pakistan. Every other show by Arnab Goswami or Rohit Sardana is Indians on a panel interrupting their Pakistani interlocutors. To be honest I don't blame them, but I have to admit they're far more badtameez than we would be if they attended our channels.



                    Well, guess what. Indians were too scared to kill us. That's why we still live and attack them. Typical of Indian buzdilee to not follow through.



                    Just give us Kashmir, why is that so hard lol

                    The entire problem would be resolved if you just give us what we want.
                    first you say you dont support them and then you use "we"

                    You are right, Indians should have destroyed your kind to teach you a big lesson. This time around I doubt they will let you go, Paki ass is already burning on LOC

                    And why would Indians give up Kashmir? what do you Panjus have to do with Kashmir, it will never happen, Kashmir is very important for India. Keep crying like cowards as usual

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Soldat_Amir View Post
                      If TTP was created and formed by RAW and India, why did General Sardar Hussian of the Pakistani armed forces sip tea with its founder Nek Mohammad Wazir!

                      If TTP are RAW and Indian agents, why have so many former Pakistani soldiers turned onto their side in the name of Islamic Jihad.

                      If TTP are RAW and Indian agents, then that means COL Imam was butchered by India yet you bomb IDPS in Waziristan.

                      The whole blame India culture on TTP in Pakistan is a bit too old now.

                      That's typical panju tactic, blame everything on India, even when their Shalwar comes down they blame it on India.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Karachi View Post
                        first you say you dont support them and then you use "we"

                        You are right, Indians should have destroyed your kind to teach you a big lesson. This time around I doubt they will let you go, Paki ass is already burning on LOC

                        And why would Indians give up Kashmir? what do you Panjus have to do with Kashmir, it will never happen, Kashmir is very important for India. Keep crying like cowards as usual
                        Haha, no seriously you have a wife? Please go and tend to her. Or she's gonna end up with a Punjoo like me

                        Kashmir important for India? It was supposed to go to Pakistan, under the promise that areas with a Muslim majority go to Pakistan. Since India doesn't wanna give it up, Pakistan will keep going.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Karachi View Post
                          You are right, Indians should have destroyed your kind to teach you a big lesson.
                          Hilarious btw that you think they'll distinguish 'my kind' from your kind :D you're a Paki to them too! And you'll always be one

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Porus View Post
                            Hilarious btw that you think they'll distinguish 'my kind' from your kind :D you're a Paki to them too! And you'll always be one

                            Lol, You couldn't be more wrong, in fact Indians actually become very curious and interested every time I tell them my parents are from India (UP/MP) states. They have personally said to me that you should visit your parents/grand parents houses there

                            Also the thing you dont understand is that we in Karachi still follow the Indian culture we left 50-60 years ago in India, for example the cooking my mom does is all the UP/Central Indian dishes, which many Punjabis/Sindhis in Pakistan have no clue off. Our Karachi food is spicier because we do North/Central Indian style cooking rather then Punjabi style

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by khushal View Post
                              The paki army's policy of duplicity has created a reaction in the form of the TTP. While the Paki army preaches Jihad in Afghanistan against foreign occupation, the paki army at the same time supports the foreign occupation through supply lines. If the TTP wants to continue the Jihad that the paki army preaches, then logically the front line is pakistan since without the supplies, the occupation would not exist.
                              The Pakistan army does not want to get into direct conflict with Western forces in Afghanistan.Therefore they do allow the supply lines.At the same time, they support the Afghan Taliban . The Afghan Taliban understand this and they have good relations with Pakistan.
                              TTP on the other hand has come on a mission to cause chaos and instability in Pakistan.In fact ,the TTP havens in Afghanistan are actually known to U.S/NATO but they do not take action against them.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Karachi View Post
                                Lol, You couldn't be more wrong, in fact Indians actually become very curious and interested every time I tell them my parents are from India (UP/MP) states. They have personally said to me that you should visit your parents/grand parents houses there
                                You might be able to, Modi probs won't give you a visa though lol

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