What makes Pakistan better than the Taliban?

[Firdousi]

Since this forums has been infested by Paki trolls, I just want them to answer this question: what makes Pakistan better than the Taliban? Why should the world support them instead of TTP? Does Pakistan hold the moral high ground in this conflict? Why?

[Da Bannu Mazdigar]

Because this region belong to Pakistan and we are far too important to be isolated while ttp is a cheap creation of raw/nds.

Agree???

[Firdousi]

Because this region belong to Pakistan and we are far too important to be isolated while ttp is a cheap creation of raw/nds.

Agree???

You didn't answer bro. I mean we all do agree with you that Pakistan is a cheap creation but that doesn't answer my question: what makes your disgusting third world sh*thole better than those barbaric goat*****rs?

[Porus]

You didn't answer bro. I mean we all do agree with you that Pakistan is a cheap creation but that doesn't answer my question: what makes your disgusting third world sh*thole better than those barbaric goat*****rs?

We're sophisticated, they're not.

[Firdousi]

We're sophisticated, they're not.

Elaborate.

[DaZahroJaam.]

Ripe mango pickles. Talibs don't have them.

[toughpashtun]

TTP kills innocents when they bomb public places.They are a threat to peace in the country.And they have absolutely no public support in Pakistan.

[Firdousi]

TTP kills innocents when they bomb public places.They are a threat to peace in the country.And they have absolutely no public support in Pakistan.

Pakistan army just like IDF carries out collective punishments which are inmoral, illegal and anti-Islamic. Pakistan army has systematically butchered innocent civilians in Bangladesh, India, Pashtunistan, Kashmir and Baluchistan. You have killed much more civilians than the TTP. So when it comes to violence you are much worse.

[Friends of Baloch]

Pakistan army just like IDF carries out collective punishments which are inmoral, illegal and anti-Islamic. Pakistan army has systematically butchered innocent civilians in Bangladesh, India, Pashtunistan, Kashmir and Baluchistan. You have killed much more civilians than the TTP. So when it comes to violence you are much worse.

Exactly. 2 million, lets repeats that, TWO MILLION, Pashtuns from Swat and FATA were made to flee their homes and became refugees ("IDPs") in their own so called "country" because the "pindi wala" were too weak and afraid to have the police (lol) arrest and jail the Talibs who had taken over Swat and forced a new legal order there so the paki air force was used to indiscriminately bomb the houses, villages and towns of their own citizens.

What kind of country bombs itself with its own air force and makes 2 million of its citizens refugees in their own homeland?

Would the paki air force ever bomb the villages and towns of Punjab like that, and make refugees out of 2 million punjabis?

[Porus]

Elaborate.

Talibs live in mountains, can't read, think growing hair on your face is macho. Overall there can never be a 'smart' Talib. No leader of the Taliban can be smart. They're proxies for us to use as we please and right now we're using them against you.

Would the paki air force ever bomb the villages and towns of Punjab like that, and make refugees out of 2 million punjabis?
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Of course not. That would be counter-productive. As long as our province is stable we have no issues making minced meat out of the other areas.

[Traveller]

The Taliban has created nothing but chaos and destruction. Pakistan, even though it has done bad, has established some order and development in the areas under it's authority.

[Porus]

I find that the question itself is flawed. Pakistan owns the Taliban. They are simply certain groups that we support in order to further our objectives. If that objective is to rid Afghanistan of Indian influence, then yes, we'll support them. If it means that Afghans can't accept the Durand line, then fine, Afghans should have no problem dealing with other 'Afghans' crossing this 'fake boundary' and committing atrocities in their territory.

It's a two-way street. If you want cordial relations with India, then you have to understand that Pakistan can't give you that. If you want to trade with India, sorry, we don't give Iran access to India either. For whatever reason, we don't like India. For Afghans to be so vehement on the idea that they should be friends with India is a cause of worry for Pakistan. If Afghans sincerely hated Iran, and Afghans and Pakistanis were friends, we wouldn't deal with Iran. We already don't. So why this need to be so 'pro-India'? Furthermore, to extend this hatred of Pakistan into some strange superiority complex is silly. It doesn't help you, nor does it help us.

[toughpashtun]

Pakistan army just like IDF carries out collective punishments which are inmoral, illegal and anti-Islamic. Pakistan army has systematically butchered innocent civilians in Bangladesh, India, Pashtunistan, Kashmir and Baluchistan. You have killed much more civilians than the TTP. So when it comes to violence you are much worse.

What the army did in Bangladesh in '71 is another story.I am not justifying that.But speaking of the current scenario , the army does not aim to kill or maim civilians.Collateral damage does occur as part of military ops against militants.
On the other hand, it is the agenda and aim of TTP to carry out attacks against Pakistani civilians and cause instability.
The average Pakistani does not feel any threat or danger to his life or property from the army, but he does from the TTP.

[khushal]

I find that the question itself is flawed. Pakistan owns the Taliban. They are simply certain groups that we support in order to further our objectives. If that objective is to rid Afghanistan of Indian influence, then yes, we'll support them. If it means that Afghans can't accept the Durand line, then fine, Afghans should have no problem dealing with other 'Afghans' crossing this 'fake boundary' and committing atrocities in their territory.

It's a two-way street. If you want cordial relations with India, then you have to understand that Pakistan can't give you that. If you want to trade with India, sorry, we don't give Iran access to India either. For whatever reason, we don't like India. For Afghans to be so vehement on the idea that they should be friends with India is a cause of worry for Pakistan. If Afghans sincerely hated Iran, and Afghans and Pakistanis were friends, we wouldn't deal with Iran. We already don't. So why this need to be so 'pro-India'? Furthermore, to extend this hatred of Pakistan into some strange superiority complex is silly. It doesn't help you, nor does it help us.

That right there is the purpose the Brits created Pakistan. To prevent trade between central Asia and south Asia. Historically trade between these two regions created the richest economic hub in the world.
(notice the graph between china and western Europe and India and western europe as they started to colonize)
Share of world GDP throughout history - Infogram, charts & infographics

[khushal]

What the army did in Bangladesh in '71 is another story.I am not justifying that.But speaking of the current scenario , the army does not aim to kill or maim civilians.Collateral damage does occur as part of military ops against militants.
On the other hand, it is the agenda and aim of TTP to carry out attacks against Pakistani civilians and cause instability.
The average Pakistani does not feel any threat or danger to his life or property from the army, but he does from the TTP.

The paki army's policy of duplicity has created a reaction in the form of the TTP. While the Paki army preaches Jihad in Afghanistan against foreign occupation, the paki army at the same time supports the foreign occupation through supply lines. If the TTP wants to continue the Jihad that the paki army preaches, then logically the front line is pakistan since without the supplies, the occupation would not exist.