Why Afghans hate Pakistan?(a logical discussion)

[toughpashtun]

Yes, by force against the opposition. Communists were in two groups, Khalqi and Parchami. Najibullah was Parchami and Dostum was on the side of whoever paid him more. His force was a very strong one physically and military wise. The incidents in South happened a couple of years before Soviet withdrawal, not sure whether you've heard of 'Fall of Arghandab' but that was one of the areas Dostum failed miserably and the locals sides Mujahideen due to the plunder spread by Dostum.

The book I quoted earlier name of, 'Afghanistan', and a Farsi history book called 'Hezbe Natakmeel' state the conflicts around larger part of control over Southern provinces.

Don't have much knowledge about this stuff.This is new to me.I can however imagine that Dostum must have carried out actions like these.

[toughpashtun]

Those were claims by those escaping the violence in Pakhtunkhw, not me. But as for your questions, it's politically a very naive question wrora. Before I answer it straight away, lemme ask a counter question:
A- do you know why 9/11 happened, who's done it and why it was carried out?
B- do you know why the London attacks happened, who's done it and why it was carried out?

This questions should give you your own answer, but if you're still unsure then I'll explain why I'm asking these, and why I for a big part agree with the arguments of my friends from Pakhunkhwa.

Firstly , let me point out (and I should have said this in my earlier post) that these claims which your friends from Pakhtunkhwa have made, well I have heard similar stuff from people of the Swat region but I did not pay much attention to it and I found it hard to believe.

Secondly; I can sense where you are getting at , judging by your counter questions.The answers to your counter questions are another discussion and that would be opening a new debate.

It would be nice if you could explain why you agree with your Pakhtunkhwa friends.I'll listen to it with an open mind.

[khushal]

Afghanistan must recognized Durrand line Kushal,
Stop playing god with labeling Afghans Satanic....Your own Pakis are admitting the truth.


https://www.facebook.com/AzadPakhtoo...3914955050756/

Your twisting words just like those people that killed Farkhunda in Kabul. You probably were one of the ones that were twisting her words and throwing false accusations. You are Satanic just like the Afghan gov and the Paki gov.

[~Zarlakhta~]

Firstly , let me point out (and I should have said this in my earlier post) that these claims which your friends from Pakhtunkhwa have made, well I have heard similar stuff from people of the Swat region but I did not pay much attention to it and I found it hard to believe.

Secondly; I can sense where you are getting at , judging by your counter questions.The answers to your counter questions are another discussion and that would be opening a new debate.

It would be nice if you could explain why you agree with your Pakhtunkhwa friends.I'll listen to it with an open mind.

Financial benefit. :-)

Government of a country claims terrorists are destroying their sovereignty and they could extend beyond their borders, possibly reach check posts of NATO in bordering countries. What do NATO and USA do? Since that country's government doesn't need military presence they provide financial assistance to shy away the extremists. The government gets what it wants, but at the same time can't risk the extremism to continue much longer in case it backfires on them (eg Taliban movement in Afghanistan in '90s). What do they do? Rid their own backed/inserted/etc from the region and call it 'mission accomplished'.

Or shall I say, pockets filled. It should be no surprise as to why extremists in so many countries always seem to attack areas hunderds of miles away from government areas and basis. Isn't it?

[toughpashtun]

Financial benefit. :-)

Government of a country claims terrorists are destroying their sovereignty and they could extend beyond their borders, possibly reach check posts of NATO in bordering countries. What do NATO and USA do? Since that country's government doesn't need military presence they provide financial assistance to shy away the extremists. The government gets what it wants, but at the same time can't risk the extremism to continue much longer in case it backfires on them (eg Taliban movement in Afghanistan in '90s). What do they do? Rid their own backed/inserted/etc from the region and call it 'mission accomplished'.

Or shall I say, pockets filled. It should be no surprise as to why extremists in so many countries always seem to attack areas hunderds of miles away from government areas and basis. Isn't it?

Makes sense.Should I tell you what is a popular narrative in Pakistan?You can then tell me what you think of it.
That all these extremist elements in Pakistan are supported by RAW(India),NDS(Afghanistan) and U.S/NATO to create a mess in Pakistan.One point they do have is that when these same militants go to Afghanistan, they never attack U.S/NATO and neither do U.S/NATO take action against them.

[Dovahkiin]

Main reason behind our hatred toward Pakistan are four:

1) Racism. "We" dislike brown people.

Are the Tajiks of Afghanistan white?

[Dovahkiin]

Since the Aryan times, every single invasion of India came through modern Afghanistan: Aryans, Persians, Greeks, Bactrians, Kushans, Arabs, several Persianized and Persian empires, Pashtuns,..
.

Conversely, every invasion to Afghanistan has been through Central Asia proper and West Asia/Persia. It is only a function of geography.

[HindustanTimes]

Are the Tajiks of Afghanistan white?

He is right though...

Pakis are brown....they self identify as "Brown"...

white is a relative term, so in that regard, yes. Compared wirh Pakis most are very white...Pakis self identifying as "Brown" like their Tamil brothers...in fact Pakis/Panjus Look closer to Tamils than they do Afghanis...even though they live closer to Afghanistan than Tamils...

[Firdousi]

Are the Tajiks of Afghanistan white?

Compared to Pakis? Yes we are white. Not that I really care about skin color but the thing is the average Afghan despises dark skin and mongoloid features.

[Firdousi]

Conversely, every invasion to Afghanistan has been through Central Asia proper and West Asia/Persia. It is only a function of geography.

First off Afghanistan is a central asian country you moron. Secondly we share a common history with Iran and Central Asia. Modern borders means nothing to many of us. Thirdly Many times empires were created in modern Afghanistan and went northward and westward. Four: only few cases Indians invaded our land. It was always us invading you. Five: since we imposed on you our faith, our language and culture, we raped you so hard that you even call your rockets after our forefathers I believe seriously you harami backstabber Pakis should stop insulting Afghans. Show some respect to your elders lmao

[Dovahkiin]

Compared to Pakis? Yes we are white.

You can't be 'white', simply compared to an ethnicity. You either are or you aren't. By the same logic, Kavkazians, Anatolians and Levantines are 'white' compared to Afghans. Northern Europeans are 'white' compared to Southern Europeans. Even though the term is only used to refer to Europeans and people of European descent.

Not that I really care about skin color but the thing is the average Afghan despises dark skin and mongoloid features.

Crowd pictures from Herat. Mostly brown, quite a few Mongoloid.

[Dovahkiin]

Five: since we imposed on you our faith

Are you Arab?

even call your rockets after our forefathers I believe seriously you harami backstabber Pakis should stop insulting Afghans. Show some respect to your elders lmao

Most of these guys were invaders to Afghanistan themselves, e.g Babur and Ghaznavi.
The legit Afghan (Pashtun) ones were Abdali, Suri and Lodhi whose collective reign lasted for around 150 years, not to mention overall 70% of this ethnic group is Pakistani.
The Hindu Shahi/Kabul Shahi rule over Afghanistan alone lasted for almost 500 years, not to mention the area always being under NW Indic Gandharan influence.

[Kabulistan]

You can't be 'white', simply compared to an ethnicity. You either are or you aren't. By the same logic, Kavkazians, Anatolians and Levantines are 'white' compared to Afghans. Northern Europeans are 'white' compared to Southern Europeans. Even though the term is only used to refer to Europeans and people of European descent.



Crowd pictures from Herat. Mostly brown, quite a few Mongoloid.

These guys are not ''Brown'' you dumbass...Even Europeans will admit they are not ''brown''...though not white in a social sense like Euros from euro perspective, but definitely not ''brown''... these people are only tanned...move them to North Europe, they will get lighter due to lack of sun exposure...


THis man is ''white'' in Europe...if he was Afghani, he would not be considered ''white'' by North Euros... ergo the ''white'' concept is relative..




keep in mind Afghanis can look like this:



George Clooney's phenotype falls in the medium/most common of Afghan phenotype spectrum...


this is actual ''brown'' people:



Don't call difference skintones as ''brown'' when in reality they are only tanned...


white is a relative concept...I am not sure Euros have a sole claim to white...

In reality most Afghanis racially white....just not European...

But from an unbiased view of course, Afghanis are more white than any other color....even the dark/tanned ones...after all loads of Italians, Greeks, Spaniards are darker than Afghanis, but considered ''white''...the concept of white is relative... if Indians and Pakis are brown, then Afghanis are not brown...ergo they are white...

[Firdousi]

Are you Arab?



Most of these guys were invaders to Afghanistan themselves, e.g Babur and Ghaznavi.
The legit Afghan (Pashtun) ones were Abdali, Suri and Lodhi whose collective reign lasted for around 150 years, not to mention overall 70% of this ethnic group is Pakistani.
The Hindu Shahi/Kabul Shahi rule over Afghanistan alone lasted for almost 500 years, not to mention the area always being under NW Indic Gandharan influence.

Persian Islam is the second advent of Islam. Most famous Muslim scholars and philosophers were Persians. Most of Muslims follow a madhab created by Abu Hanifa a Persian from Kabul. Your language is a ******* offshoot from Persian. Your national anthem, your national poet, your country´s name, your alphabet,.. everything. You are basically a bast*rd confused nation. You reject your motherland India while we reject you. Nobody likes you. LOL

[Porus]

Persian Islam is the second advent of Islam. Most famous Muslim scholars and philosophers were Persians. Most of Muslims follow a madhab created by Abu Hanifa a Persian from Kabul. Your language is a ******* offshoot from Persian. Your national anthem, your national poet, your country´s name, your alphabet,.. everything. You are basically a bast*rd confused nation. You reject your motherland India while we reject you. Nobody likes you. LOL

Actually Islam reached the subcontinent before it came around to you lot. The first mosque was built in Kerala, South India. Also the Prophet's family, ancestors of Imam Ali who were persecuted by the Sunnis took refuge in India. So really, Indians were Muslims first.

If ours is an offshoot of Persian, yours is that of Arabic. Your texts changed first. You suffered 200 years of silence. There is more Arabic in Farsi than there is in Urdu/Hindi.

We're not that confused mate lol