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  • #61
    Originally posted by BarakzaiAbdali View Post
    Azmal, surely you are old enough to remember Chandra Levy's body being found in the park post rape. This happens in all societies.

    You would be the last person I would expect to think that in our native structure (pre all this horrible last 30-40 years) that rape is something Afghans in the native environs are just accustomed to.

    Rather, I have personally heard of whole lashkars hunting down husbands who killed a wife (not super wealthy people either) ...
    I wish it was just one or few case...google the number of rape committed by Muslims refugees in Europe...consider the ratio refugees/population you will be surprised.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a6800901.html
    ای وخته بېرته راشه يو افغان وزېږوه
    نو بيا يو احمد خان يا ميروس خان وزېږوه

    چې ننګ په وطن وکړئ داسي ځوان وزېږوه
    نويا خو خوشحال خان يا بادشا خان وزېږوه

    سپن اوشن بيرغ د ازادۍ کړي زمونږ پورته
    بيا داسې يو بادشا لکه امان وزيږوه

    چې جوړه کړي انګريز ته بيا غزا د ارنوۍ
    يو داسې لوی غازي ميرزمان خان وزيږوه

    سرو مال قربان کړي له وطن او له ناموسه
    په مينه د وطن کي افغانان وزيږوه

    ټپې د ازادۍ کړه بورا ته په خيالونو
    اوس راشه په شعرنو کي طوفان وزيږو

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    • #62
      Originally posted by Azmal View Post
      These are all part of Porkistan systemic warfare against Afghanistan...just as their father British Raj did some 100 years ago with Saqawi and co...they burn and kill educated Afghans to put fear in heart of people in sending their children to school/universities. We are suffering because Daal eating Punjos lake of national identity which needs narrow religion identity for her sorry existence. Until and unless Porkistan is burn into the fire they ignites in Afghanistan nothing will change.

      Check these out...

      http://www.rawa.org/temp/runews/2016...education.html

      http://www.irinnews.org/report/80506...ents-education
      Unlikely. I went to a talk the other day at the University. I was off and it seemed interesting. The talk hosted one of the Special Operator Soldiers who had been in Latin America and was directly involved in catching and then killing Che Guevara

      An audience member asked what his thoughts were about the recent situation in Iraq and in Afghanistan.

      Making it abundantly clear that he had voted for Trump and then on top of this making it clear that for whatever reason he viewed Petreus as the right choice he went on to say that:

      The US should indiscriminately destroy the regions of Daesh but that he viewed the Taliban as a political entity representing a large swathe of people and that the war needs to be withdrawn from completely.

      He went onto say that the nation state he fears, interestingly enough, is Pakistan for its instability potential and its possession of nucs. He indicated that a Cambodian type of situation cannot be done (unfortunately in his view) because Pakistan has nuclear armaments.
      "2 crackheads don't become any better or stronger by sharing the same crack pipe." - Greatest PF quote

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      • #63
        Originally posted by BarakzaiAbdali View Post
        So you're going to operate on the assumption that every elder that made that statement is pro that sort of action? How do you know that they aren't on the same par as you regarding inheritance practices being bad but they also are simply against men in uniform breaking down their doors and raping their daughters and little boys?

        Are you this deluded in your beliefs that anyone that opposes them is ipso facto a caricature of some Arab Sheikh ready to beat a woman?

        Additionally, how is promoting child rape and general rape solving the aforementioned issues you discuss when Dostum's men are notorious for enforcing worse in the north?

        Basically you have a psychiatric defense mechanism called "splitting." Anyone that doesn't agree with your stereotype of how it should be is automatically a goat herding woman beater ? lol.

        How absurd darling.
        You think you can play that game all by yourself?? There was a system where people did not knock on anyone's door to rape their daughters. It took over 50 years to tackle that and break it off little by little and it happened because of men like you and the ones that you applaud for. We could have focused on educating the last three generations in to becoming more honourable but we had to struggle with things like basic education, basic human right violations and living with 17th century lamps due to a lack of electricity because some animal that your great grandparents produced, happened to knock out power lines because it was the invention of the west, aka, satan.
        We would not be dealing with the army raping women if it was not like people like you and these "elders" you arare vouching for. And no. None of them could possibly be sharing any beliefs with me because if one man of their generation had the courage to raise a proper son in Afghanistan, you wouldn't be sitting on your ass, shamelessly taking pride in having some innocent 20 year old being hanged by the neck because he worked for a government that that you pay for and people that you applaud for, do not like.


        Last edited by DaZahroJaam.; 12-03-2016, 11:29 PM.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by Azmal View Post
          I wish it was just one or few case...google the number of rape committed by Muslims refugees in Europe...consider the ratio refugees/population you will be surprised.

          http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a6800901.html
          Azmal man, I'm sorry but every piece of news has to be scrutinized thoroughly.

          Hoaxmap: Debunking false rumours about refugee 'crimes' - Al Jazeera English

          Take this famous case:

          The debunked cases marked on the map range from thefts and assaults to manslaughter - but one of the most common topics is rape, Schwarz said.

          "There is a prominent case from Berlin about a 13-year-old girl being held hostage and raped by refugees. This one even led to Russia intervening, because the girl is from a late re-settler family coming from Russia," said Schwarz, a business consultant.

          Other "absurd" rumours, Schwarz said, include refugees stealing and slaughtering swans from a lake near their shelter, or a story about a female refugee from an African country who got hair extensions and braids because of religious reasons, and then supposedly charged her local government some 720 euros ($800).
          Or this study:

          Immigrants Aren't Responsible for Rape Culture in Germany | VICE | United States

          Amid all this, the perpetrator's skin color or religion is irrelevant. With what happened in Cologne, we'll have to see whether those sexual assaults end up being as thoroughly investigated as the property theft that occurred simultaneously. To date, 90 women have filed complaints according to Zeit Online, with 75 percent of them concerning sexual offenses. Two of them are rape cases.
          German woman invented gang-rape story during Cologne NYE assaults – media — RT News

          An 18-year-old woman who earlier claimed to have been brutally raped by a gang of refugees in front of a Cologne train station reportedly confessed that her chilling story was fiction the whole time – she hadn’t even been in the city on New Year's Eve.
          Hundreds of women reported being harassed, abused and even raped by crowds of migrants at the New Year’s Eve celebration in central Cologne.
          One story stood out – an 18-year-old girl said earlier this year that she had been surrounded by a group of men who “pushed her back and forth like a ball,” and one man eventually forced himself upon her.
          "2 crackheads don't become any better or stronger by sharing the same crack pipe." - Greatest PF quote

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          • #65
            Originally posted by BarakzaiAbdali View Post
            Not to mention the recent rape cases in India and Pakistan... The Indian ones caught media fire but one cannot label whole nation states as accepting endemic cultures of rape based off a relatively small sample size.

            Or the Stanford Rape case we were all reading about this past year... That swimmer got off easy...

            Or Trump's P grabbing comments... I am sure that if you talk to the mid western zealots that voted for him... they aren't into rape culture either
            Criminal law doesn't prohibit people from being rude, insulting and disrespectful to one another…you can make comments as you wish…the criminal law only enters when remarks become violent, threatening or they cause the complainant to fear for her or his safety. The simple fact people condemn Trump comments and Roger Ailes got fired…on other hand no one even dare to mention thousands of rape inside Madrassa…like it or not there is a huge sexist problem in Muslim world--- if you had ever walked with a girl/women in Egypt bazaar or Peshware Sadar Bazar you would know.
            http://articles.latimes.com/2005/oct...ws/adfg-abuse9
            ای وخته بېرته راشه يو افغان وزېږوه
            نو بيا يو احمد خان يا ميروس خان وزېږوه

            چې ننګ په وطن وکړئ داسي ځوان وزېږوه
            نويا خو خوشحال خان يا بادشا خان وزېږوه

            سپن اوشن بيرغ د ازادۍ کړي زمونږ پورته
            بيا داسې يو بادشا لکه امان وزيږوه

            چې جوړه کړي انګريز ته بيا غزا د ارنوۍ
            يو داسې لوی غازي ميرزمان خان وزيږوه

            سرو مال قربان کړي له وطن او له ناموسه
            په مينه د وطن کي افغانان وزيږوه

            ټپې د ازادۍ کړه بورا ته په خيالونو
            اوس راشه په شعرنو کي طوفان وزيږو

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            • #66
              and you know what, you can sit in USA and brag about anything you want to brag about. The day you step foot in to Afghanistan and practice your "free speech", I will be sure to personally reward you for that.

              "To burn always with this hard gemlike flame, to maintain this ecstasy, is success in life."





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              • #67
                Originally posted by Peshawer_222 View Post
                Are you or are you not Namak haram ? If you are so ghairatmand stop using Pakistan domicile , passport , ID card for your own gains . Why don't you go over to another country ? You are a Kabuli that has bribed his way to nadra to buy a fake ID card and now posing as a Pakistani acting all ghairatmand over things that are beghairat in the first place . You have identity crisis sort it out . You venture over to Pakistani forums in a hope that you would find like minded Pashtuns with your Idiotic Anti Pakistan rheatoric but everytime you get banned because no Pashtun supports you in anything leaving you with nothing but bad mental scars .

                Your Taliban have been beaten so badly in zarb-e-azb that the few that survived don't want to come back to FATA . Their ass was handed to them in such fashion that countries from around the world now send their cadets here to learn the act of counter-terrorism Training . As for India they are getting toasted on the border and have double the amount of casualities as we have in the current cross - border firings . Their media is crying like a little bitch to stop the firings .
                typical false bravado, indian this talib ass this, while itself failed to get a job in pakistan and now janitor in Malaysia

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                • #68

                  No doubt groups like Neo-Nazi are miss using these statics but do you know in Sweden only government data suggesting 77.6% of rapes in Sweden are committed by the 2% Muslim male segment of the population.

                  https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...music-festival
                  ای وخته بېرته راشه يو افغان وزېږوه
                  نو بيا يو احمد خان يا ميروس خان وزېږوه

                  چې ننګ په وطن وکړئ داسي ځوان وزېږوه
                  نويا خو خوشحال خان يا بادشا خان وزېږوه

                  سپن اوشن بيرغ د ازادۍ کړي زمونږ پورته
                  بيا داسې يو بادشا لکه امان وزيږوه

                  چې جوړه کړي انګريز ته بيا غزا د ارنوۍ
                  يو داسې لوی غازي ميرزمان خان وزيږوه

                  سرو مال قربان کړي له وطن او له ناموسه
                  په مينه د وطن کي افغانان وزيږوه

                  ټپې د ازادۍ کړه بورا ته په خيالونو
                  اوس راشه په شعرنو کي طوفان وزيږو

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by DaZahroJaam. View Post
                    You think you can play that game all by yourself?? There was a system where people did not knock on anyone's door to rape their daughters. It took over 50 years to shackle that little by little and it happened because of men like you and the ones that you applaud for.

                    LOOOOOOOOL. Oh you mean how your home boy Najeebo the Great worked with Red Army thugs to pretty much institutionalize rape:
                    Afghanistan

                    The widespread rape and torture of women during the years of the Soviet occupation after 1979 was well documented by Amnesty International and by UN reports, she added.
                    "The criminals, mainly Soviet soldiers but also Afghan soldiers supporting the Marxist-Leninist government at that time, went unpunished. Most women had lost a close male relative under Soviet occupation," said Shorish-Shamley, whose brother had been killed by the pro-Soviet regime.


                    We could have focused on educating the last three generations in to becoming more honourable

                    Oh yesssss, because drunkard Marxists having to institutionalize rape would somehow lead to an increase in honor (scratching head? lol)


                    but we had to struggle with things like basic education, basic human right violations and living with 17th century lamps due to a lack of electricity because some animal that your great grandparents produced, happened to knock out power lines because it was the invention of the west, aka, satan.

                    You are full of humor today. You jumped from rape (ignoring Dostum's own colorful history and the institutionalization of the act by the ANA and ANP... to power lines? You're all over the place. Rape and power lines relate how?.

                    We would not be dealing with the army raping women if it was not like people like you and these "elders" you arare vouching for.

                    Once again, the elders that are complaining about child and daughter rape. Yet you are ASSUMING that they are somehow responsible for extra acts simply for lodging reasonable complaints? Wow, you are extremely mentally unstable when it comes to splitting and conspiracy mongering.

                    And no. None of them could possibly be sharing any beliefs with me because if one man of their generation had the courage to raise a proper son in Afghanistan, you wouldn't be sitting on your ass, shamelessly taking pride in having some innocent 20 year old being hanged by the neck because he worked for a government that that you pay for and people that you applaud for, do not like.

                    Here you again lol. Show me where I took pride or even once argued its justification. Others did, I simply pointed out that your homeboys Karzai Donkey and Ghani Monkey and their hench men are much the same:


                    That seems to have set you off like fire crackers mah lady





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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by Azmal View Post
                      Criminal law doesn't prohibit people from being rude, insulting and disrespectful to one another…you can make comments as you wish…the criminal law only enters when remarks become violent, threatening or they cause the complainant to fear for her or his safety. The simple fact people condemn Trump comments and Roger Ailes got fired…on other hand no one even dare to mention thousands of rape inside Madrassa…like it or not there is a huge sexist problem in Muslim world--- if you had ever walked with a girl/women in Egypt bazaar or Peshware Sadar Bazar you would know.
                      http://articles.latimes.com/2005/oct...ws/adfg-abuse9
                      My friend, I have heard the same from female medical colleagues regarding how we treat them. And the Peshawar Bazaar stories of male aggression are legendary but so too are the NYC construction worker oglings.

                      I will look into the Swedish data.

                      Thanks
                      "2 crackheads don't become any better or stronger by sharing the same crack pipe." - Greatest PF quote

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by DaZahroJaam. View Post
                        and you know what, you can sit in USA and brag about anything you want to brag about. The day you step foot in to Afghanistan and practice your "free speech", I will be sure to personally reward you for that.
                        LOOOOOOL. You're good for humor today. My ribs hurt from the laughing. I would have no problem sitting in any village across the south and watching you say what you do in the Maidaan or the football stadium versus what I say and seeing who survives and walks out if there. Don't worry, even though you were mean to my son I would tell them all you had mental issues and help you out of the jam
                        "2 crackheads don't become any better or stronger by sharing the same crack pipe." - Greatest PF quote

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by DaZahroJaam. View Post
                          and you know what, you can sit in USA and brag about anything you want to brag about. The day you step foot in to Afghanistan and practice your "free speech", I will be sure to personally reward you for that.
                          Good news the day of "Free speech" in USA are number as well...Trump and co(American Taliban) are openly calling to put Muslim in concentration camps and white nationalist are asking for Mecca to be bombed. We live in interesting times...reminds me of the quote...the West won the world not by the superiority of its ideas or values or religion but rather by its superiority in applying organized violence. Westerners often forget this fact, non-Westerners never do.
                          ای وخته بېرته راشه يو افغان وزېږوه
                          نو بيا يو احمد خان يا ميروس خان وزېږوه

                          چې ننګ په وطن وکړئ داسي ځوان وزېږوه
                          نويا خو خوشحال خان يا بادشا خان وزېږوه

                          سپن اوشن بيرغ د ازادۍ کړي زمونږ پورته
                          بيا داسې يو بادشا لکه امان وزيږوه

                          چې جوړه کړي انګريز ته بيا غزا د ارنوۍ
                          يو داسې لوی غازي ميرزمان خان وزيږوه

                          سرو مال قربان کړي له وطن او له ناموسه
                          په مينه د وطن کي افغانان وزيږوه

                          ټپې د ازادۍ کړه بورا ته په خيالونو
                          اوس راشه په شعرنو کي طوفان وزيږو

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by Azmal View Post
                            No doubt groups like Neo-Nazi are miss using these statics but do you know in Sweden only government data suggesting 77.6% of rapes in Sweden are committed by the 2% Muslim male segment of the population.

                            https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...music-festival
                            Admittedly though on the front face of it, to use anecdote, Sweden is also the same country pursuing Julian Assange over having sex a second time without a condom on (apologies for the graphic language but the point is obvious)
                            "2 crackheads don't become any better or stronger by sharing the same crack pipe." - Greatest PF quote

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by Azmal View Post
                              Good news the day of "Free speech" in USA are number as well...Trump and co(American Taliban) are openly calling to put Muslim in concentration camps and white nationalist are asking for Mecca to be bombed. We live in interesting times...reminds me of the quote...the West won the world not by the superiority of its ideas or values or religion but rather by its superiority in applying organized violence. Westerners often forget this fact, non-Westerners never do.
                              What was your view on the election and outcome? Did it go as expected?
                              "2 crackheads don't become any better or stronger by sharing the same crack pipe." - Greatest PF quote

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by Azmal View Post
                                Good news the day of "Free speech" in USA are number as well...Trump and co(American Taliban) are openly calling to put Muslim in concentration camps and white nationalist are asking for Mecca to be bombed. We live in interesting times...reminds me of the quote...the West won the world not by the superiority of its ideas or values or religion but rather by its superiority in applying organized violence. Westerners often forget this fact, non-Westerners never do.
                                In case you havnt noticed, he has moved on to worshipping the orange man now.

                                "To burn always with this hard gemlike flame, to maintain this ecstasy, is success in life."





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