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    In Afghanistan there is a rumor. People are saying that Ghani blocked all of Atta Noors bank accounts and barred him from leaving the country.

    The National Unity govt of Panjsheris and Logaris is falling apart. Could this be the end of this arranged marriage sanctioned by John Kerry?
    Originally posted by Firdousi
    Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

  • #2
    Originally posted by Shamlawar Khurasani View Post
    In Afghanistan there is a rumor. People are saying that Ghani blocked all of Atta Noors bank accounts and barred him from leaving the country.

    The National Unity govt of Panjsheris and Logaris is falling apart. Could this be the end of this arranged marriage sanctioned by John Kerry?
    This government was doomed to collapse since the very first day. Anyway Ghani is asking badly for a coup. He did a good job by fooling Abdullah two years ago but now seems he is making some mistakes. The guy is too emotional and unpleasant. Nobody likes him. Karzai knew much better how to play politics. Ghani is too authoritarian.

    Sooner or later we will be back to square one: Taliban on the verge of taking over half of the country and the government falling apart. Just like two years ago.
    "For thirty years, I endured much pain and strife,
    I awaken the Ajam by this Persian [language]. "

    -Ferdowsi.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Firdousi View Post
      This government was doomed to collapse since the very first day. Anyway Ghani is asking badly for a coup. He did a good job by fooling Abdullah two years ago but now seems he is making some mistakes. The guy is too emotional and unpleasant. Nobody likes him. Karzai knew much better how to play politics. Ghani is too authoritarian.

      Sooner or later we will be back to square one: Taliban on the verge of taking over half of the country and the government falling apart. Just like two years ago.
      The problem is flat heads that want to control yet do not have the ability to...in the height of Massod power he could not venture 10 miles south/east of Kabul river..yet they are trying to compare him to Ahmad shah Baba. De Kharzoy is the reason for all problems, he is more a tribal chieftain then a national leader. Ghani is 15 years to late..there is still a chance he could withstand 4th Saqawi rebellion.
      ای وخته بېرته راشه يو افغان وزېږوه
      نو بيا يو احمد خان يا ميروس خان وزېږوه

      چې ننګ په وطن وکړئ داسي ځوان وزېږوه
      نويا خو خوشحال خان يا بادشا خان وزېږوه

      سپن اوشن بيرغ د ازادۍ کړي زمونږ پورته
      بيا داسې يو بادشا لکه امان وزيږوه

      چې جوړه کړي انګريز ته بيا غزا د ارنوۍ
      يو داسې لوی غازي ميرزمان خان وزيږوه

      سرو مال قربان کړي له وطن او له ناموسه
      په مينه د وطن کي افغانان وزيږوه

      ټپې د ازادۍ کړه بورا ته په خيالونو
      اوس راشه په شعرنو کي طوفان وزيږو

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      • #4
        Temporary hurdles, future looks great for glorious democratic Afghanistan.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Azmal View Post
          The problem is flat heads that want to control yet do not have the ability to...in the height of Massod power he could not venture 10 miles south/east of Kabul river..yet they are trying to compare him to Ahmad shah Baba. De Kharzoy is the reason for all problems, he is more a tribal chieftain then a national leader. Ghani is 15 years to late..there is still a chance he could withstand 4th Saqawi rebellion.
          Well brother we are reaching a point of no return: coup, hang Ghani, kick out Pashtuns from northern and western provinces and use American airforce in order to carpet bomb southern and eastern provinces and after devastating those places cede them to Pakistan. Its a win-win.
          "For thirty years, I endured much pain and strife,
          I awaken the Ajam by this Persian [language]. "

          -Ferdowsi.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Firdousi View Post
            Well brother we are reaching a point of no return: coup, hang Ghani, kick out Pashtuns from northern and western provinces and use American airforce in order to carpet bomb southern and eastern provinces and after devastating those places cede them to Pakistan. Its a win-win.
            Afghans should forget about ethnic differences, enemies don't differentiate between Afghans.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Shamlawar Khurasani View Post
              In Afghanistan there is a rumor. People are saying that Ghani blocked all of Atta Noors bank accounts and barred him from leaving the country.

              The National Unity govt of Panjsheris and Logaris is falling apart. Could this be the end of this arranged marriage sanctioned by John Kerry?
              And where did you hear this?

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Firdousi View Post
                Well brother we are reaching a point of no return: coup, hang Ghani, kick out Pashtuns from northern and western provinces and use American airforce in order to carpet bomb southern and eastern provinces and after devastating those places cede them to Pakistan. Its a win-win.
                As if during past 15 years there were no carpet bombing of southern and eastern provinces? Go educate yourself of what was done...all sort of terror and bomb was tried and yet still you failed. Flat heads even tried to attach themselves to Abullah2x who suffer from oedipus complex from his Pashtun father...yet again you fail. Why is it hard for you to realize that you simply can't rule over Pashtun? Pashtun don’t even accept the rule of fellow Pashtun do you think we will accept the rule of flat headed Amu Jumper?
                In one of Afghan gathering, one of you guys boldly stated to me and few other Pashtuns… if Massod was Pashtun you guys would have supported him….I reply saying absolutely not…Pashtun always respect able and successful leader…if Massod was able to establish a strong central gov, bring law and order and peace in whole Afghanistan I would have acknowledged him….in his height of his power, poor guy could not even venture 5 miles east/south of Kabul river. Instead of being all defensive accept the truth and allow Pashtuns to bring peace to Afghanistan.
                ای وخته بېرته راشه يو افغان وزېږوه
                نو بيا يو احمد خان يا ميروس خان وزېږوه

                چې ننګ په وطن وکړئ داسي ځوان وزېږوه
                نويا خو خوشحال خان يا بادشا خان وزېږوه

                سپن اوشن بيرغ د ازادۍ کړي زمونږ پورته
                بيا داسې يو بادشا لکه امان وزيږوه

                چې جوړه کړي انګريز ته بيا غزا د ارنوۍ
                يو داسې لوی غازي ميرزمان خان وزيږوه

                سرو مال قربان کړي له وطن او له ناموسه
                په مينه د وطن کي افغانان وزيږوه

                ټپې د ازادۍ کړه بورا ته په خيالونو
                اوس راشه په شعرنو کي طوفان وزيږو

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Firdousi View Post
                  Well brother we are reaching a point of no return: coup, hang Ghani, kick out Pashtuns from northern and western provinces and use American airforce in order to carpet bomb southern and eastern provinces and after devastating those places cede them to Pakistan. Its a win-win.
                  Calm down bacha baz. Like I told you, check your sexual abuse with a therapist. No one wants to hear bull**** you've taken out of your rectum.
                  "If a lion comes and takes your share, go get it back from the mouth of the lion"

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Azmal View Post
                    As if during past 15 years there were no carpet bombing of southern and eastern provinces? Go educate yourself of what was done...all sort of terror and bomb was tried and yet still you failed. Flat heads even tried to attach themselves to Abullah2x who suffer from oedipus complex from his Pashtun father...yet again you fail. Why is it hard for you to realize that you simply can't rule over Pashtun? Pashtun don’t even accept the rule of fellow Pashtun do you think we will accept the rule of flat headed Amu Jumper?
                    In one of Afghan gathering, one of you guys boldly stated to me and few other Pashtuns… if Massod was Pashtun you guys would have supported him….I reply saying absolutely not…Pashtun always respect able and successful leader…if Massod was able to establish a strong central gov, bring law and order and peace in whole Afghanistan I would have acknowledged him….in his height of his power, poor guy could not even venture 5 miles east/south of Kabul river. Instead of being all defensive accept the truth and allow Pashtuns to bring peace to Afghanistan.
                    The thing is Massoud died 15 years ago. You brought the issue up. I am glad you are exposing your frustration. It does not matter how strong he was. The most important thing here is that we control Afghanistan thanks to him. Media, army, economy, bureaucracy, culture. Everything. Even if Taliban take over eventually they will need us in order to govern the country. Thats why I am happy.
                    "For thirty years, I endured much pain and strife,
                    I awaken the Ajam by this Persian [language]. "

                    -Ferdowsi.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Abdulov View Post
                      Afghans should forget about ethnic differences, enemies don't differentiate between Afghans.
                      True. But Pashtun tribalism only understands one language: war. So they need to stop with the fascism. Otherwise nothing will change. Current status quo benefits us.
                      "For thirty years, I endured much pain and strife,
                      I awaken the Ajam by this Persian [language]. "

                      -Ferdowsi.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Firdousi View Post
                        The thing is Massoud died 15 years ago. You brought the issue up. I am glad you are exposing your frustration. It does not matter how strong he was. The most important thing here is that we control Afghanistan thanks to him. Media, army, economy, bureaucracy, culture. Everything. Even if Taliban take over eventually they will need us in order to govern the country. Thats why I am happy.
                        This Azmal guy does not even speak Pashto and doesn't belong to a proper tribe so he tries to compensate by being an ultra-chauvinist. He's even outlined plans for ethnic cleansing in Afghanistan. He is very disturbed.

                        Noor is pretty popular in Balkh and a bulwark against Pan-Turkism and Talibanism. Remove him and you will see more instability in that region.
                        Last edited by Win Butler; 08-17-2016, 11:05 AM.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Win Butler View Post
                          This Azmal guy does not even speak Pashto and doesn't belong to a proper tribe so he tries to compensate by being an ultra-chauvinist. He's even outlined plans for ethnic cleansing in Afghanistan. He is very disturbed.

                          Noor is pretty popular in Balkh and a bulwark against Pan-Turkism and Talibanism. Remove him and you will see more instability in that region.
                          So are most of the Pashtun nationalists here: AFB, Aryana, Kushan, Azmal,.. they are all Persianspeaker Pashtuns, Pashtun wannabes or fake Pashtuns unable to speak fluently Pashtun. They need to compensate that by being extremely jingoistic and racist. Embarrassing people lol

                          On the other hand, Shapur, Shamlawar, Iblis, Admin Khan,.. are real Pashtuns. They respect their brothers, they are proud of their tradition and religious roots, they are more tolerant,.. and so on. With this kind of mentality we all Afghanistan will be able to get along and live in peace shoulder by shoulder.
                          "For thirty years, I endured much pain and strife,
                          I awaken the Ajam by this Persian [language]. "

                          -Ferdowsi.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Firdousi View Post
                            The thing is Massoud died 15 years ago. You brought the issue up. I am glad you are exposing your frustration. It does not matter how strong he was. The most important thing here is that we control Afghanistan thanks to him. Media, army, economy, bureaucracy, culture. Everything. Even if Taliban take over eventually they will need us in order to govern the country. Thats why I am happy.
                            Keep dreaming, Abdullah2x cry proves what and how much you really control. With exception of 3-4 all minsters, and directors, all are Pashtun. Even chief executive is a Pashtun--ok he suffer from oedipus complex from his Pashtun father but still...it sucks to be you.
                            ای وخته بېرته راشه يو افغان وزېږوه
                            نو بيا يو احمد خان يا ميروس خان وزېږوه

                            چې ننګ په وطن وکړئ داسي ځوان وزېږوه
                            نويا خو خوشحال خان يا بادشا خان وزېږوه

                            سپن اوشن بيرغ د ازادۍ کړي زمونږ پورته
                            بيا داسې يو بادشا لکه امان وزيږوه

                            چې جوړه کړي انګريز ته بيا غزا د ارنوۍ
                            يو داسې لوی غازي ميرزمان خان وزيږوه

                            سرو مال قربان کړي له وطن او له ناموسه
                            په مينه د وطن کي افغانان وزيږوه

                            ټپې د ازادۍ کړه بورا ته په خيالونو
                            اوس راشه په شعرنو کي طوفان وزيږو

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Win Butler View Post
                              This Azmal guy does not even speak Pashto and doesn't belong to a proper tribe so he tries to compensate by being an ultra-chauvinist. He's even outlined plans for ethnic cleansing in Afghanistan. He is very disturbed.

                              Noor is pretty popular in Balkh and a bulwark against Pan-Turkism and Talibanism. Remove him and you will see more instability in that region.
                              Who we got here? You don’t know me so let’s not pretend to bull**** here. The fact is Abdullah2X, Noor and rest are thug and this rally is more a Irani/Roskies pressure tactic against USA. NA and other factions could care less about Afghan national interest, central power, democracy, Islam, or anything else. They only cared about being an effective proxy for their bosses so they could get more financing. Look what happened to Massod/Rabbani, as soon as they were corned in hole of Punjshir..they start talking about “broad base gov” and “compromise”… THAT was the ultimate source of the civil war. The root causes of the civil war in Afghanistan in the post-Soviet era is the fact that the fragile state infrastructure as well as the civil society that could have credibly replaced the PDPA were systematically destroyed by flat headed Amu Jumber Massod and his sympathizers like you. Thus, when the Soviets left, there was no power base, centralized or otherwise, to hold the state together or to provide an alternative to the Islamists. This allowed Afghanistan's neighbors to continuously push their proxies to keep fighting through a stalemate situation. As to your idiotic statement about chauvinist, calling a spade a spade does not makes me chaunvisnt. Flat headed Amu Jumper are impotent to rule…1992-96 and 2001 till now is the prove.
                              ای وخته بېرته راشه يو افغان وزېږوه
                              نو بيا يو احمد خان يا ميروس خان وزېږوه

                              چې ننګ په وطن وکړئ داسي ځوان وزېږوه
                              نويا خو خوشحال خان يا بادشا خان وزېږوه

                              سپن اوشن بيرغ د ازادۍ کړي زمونږ پورته
                              بيا داسې يو بادشا لکه امان وزيږوه

                              چې جوړه کړي انګريز ته بيا غزا د ارنوۍ
                              يو داسې لوی غازي ميرزمان خان وزيږوه

                              سرو مال قربان کړي له وطن او له ناموسه
                              په مينه د وطن کي افغانان وزيږوه

                              ټپې د ازادۍ کړه بورا ته په خيالونو
                              اوس راشه په شعرنو کي طوفان وزيږو

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