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Yea we need a flat headed amu jumper to determine who is a Pashtun and who is not. Lol ahahah The simple fact that you fantasizes about disintegration and “carpet bombing” Pashtuns shows your true fact little punk. The facts that Flat Heads exist who are/were willing to pimp everything to a foreign power for money and power was/is not new. What is new is that due to the Massod/Rabbani' destruction of both the state and civil society in Afghanistan, there was not a credible INTERNAL power source that could stand up to these foreign-funded proxy armies…. the main reason for this was the lack of a strong central government…which the thugs you cheerlead for were not able to establish and are preventing able Pashtuns to do.ای وخته بېرته راشه يو افغان وزېږوه
نو بيا يو احمد خان يا ميروس خان وزېږوه
چې ننګ په وطن وکړئ داسي ځوان وزېږوه
نويا خو خوشحال خان يا بادشا خان وزېږوه
سپن اوشن بيرغ د ازادۍ کړي زمونږ پورته
بيا داسې يو بادشا لکه امان وزيږوه
چې جوړه کړي انګريز ته بيا غزا د ارنوۍ
يو داسې لوی غازي ميرزمان خان وزيږوه
سرو مال قربان کړي له وطن او له ناموسه
په مينه د وطن کي افغانان وزيږوه
ټپې د ازادۍ کړه بورا ته په خيالونو
اوس راشه په شعرنو کي طوفان وزيږو
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you were dreaming about carpet bombing Pashtuns, and one you're like this? Now you have bipolar disorder as well you autistic ****? Control your sexual abuse as a dancing bacha boy before it gets out of hand.Originally posted by Firdousi View PostSo are most of the Pashtun nationalists here: AFB, Aryana, Kushan, Azmal,.. they are all Persianspeaker Pashtuns, Pashtun wannabes or fake Pashtuns unable to speak fluently Pashtun. They need to compensate that by being extremely jingoistic and racist. Embarrassing people lol
On the other hand, Shapur, Shamlawar, Iblis, Admin Khan,.. are real Pashtuns. They respect their brothers, they are proud of their tradition and religious roots, they are more tolerant,.. and so on. With this kind of mentality we all Afghanistan will be able to get along and live in peace shoulder by shoulder."If a lion comes and takes your share, go get it back from the mouth of the lion"
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Akhundzada is just a title but not a tribe; you could be a Pashtunized Qizilbash who converted to Sunnism, who knows. Ghani isn't a genuine Pashtun either. His father was a British Indian agent who helped the traitor Nader Khan come to power. And you’re admitting he’s not a technocrat concerned with meritocracy when you brag about the number of Pashtun ministers in his cabinet..most of them are incompetent. There are many educated apolitical Tajiks he could have appointed if he were a true patriot.Originally posted by Azmal View PostWho we got here? You don’t know me so let’s not pretend to bull**** here. The fact is Abdullah2X, Noor and rest are thug and this rally is more a Irani/Roskies pressure tactic against USA. NA and other factions could care less about Afghan national interest, central power, democracy, Islam, or anything else. They only cared about being an effective proxy for their bosses so they could get more financing. Look what happened to Massod/Rabbani, as soon as they were corned in hole of Punjshir..they start talking about “broad base gov” and “compromise”… THAT was the ultimate source of the civil war. The root causes of the civil war in Afghanistan in the post-Soviet era is the fact that the fragile state infrastructure as well as the civil society that could have credibly replaced the PDPA were systematically destroyed by flat headed Amu Jumber Massod and his sympathizers like you. Thus, when the Soviets left, there was no power base, centralized or otherwise, to hold the state together or to provide an alternative to the Islamists. This allowed Afghanistan's neighbors to continuously push their proxies to keep fighting through a stalemate situation. As to your idiotic statement about chauvinist, calling a spade a spade does not makes me chaunvisnt. Flat headed Amu Jumper are impotent to rule…1992-96 and 2001 till now is the prove.
And WTF, nice job completely scapegoating others. The state had already collapsed and was overly reliant on militias as opposed to the ineffectual armed forces. A civil war was inevitable as non-Pashtun militias could support their claims for political equality while Pashtuns and Pakistan were intent on unilateral rule. Hafizullah Amin and Gulbuddin were on the midst of reaching a power sharing agreement before the former was deposed…a decade later the Tanai-Gulbuddin coup was intended to monopolize power for Pashtuns. There is a vast array of literature on multiparty civil wars in heterogeneous countries and how they are inherently difficult to mediate and resolve because they have more “veto players”...just look at Lebanon in the 80s or Syria now. When groups have a foreign power backing them there is a limited range of compromises they’d be willing to agree to. You bring up Massoud in every post and mock his death, you don’t see non-Pashtuns mocking Daud Khan for failing in Bajaur or getting his family killed. We have morals. Take some personal responsibility.Last edited by Win Butler; 08-17-2016, 06:32 PM.
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He may be daydreaming about carpet bombing Pashtuns, you and fake Pashtuns like you support Najib who used SCUD missiles against unarmed innocent villagers. You support secular nationalists who systematically oppressed Pashtuns by denying their basic rights.Originally posted by Aryana View Postyou were dreaming about carpet bombing Pashtuns, and one you're like this? Now you have bipolar disorder as well you autistic ****? Control your sexual abuse as a dancing bacha boy before it gets out of hand.
Talking of being bipolar. You seem more tri-polar or even worse.
The communnists used this type of weapon on daily bases on villages in Kunar, Nangarhar, Khost, Paktia, Paktika etc
Terrible scene .. The moment of the explosion of Scud missile - YouTubeLast edited by Shamlawar Khurasani; 08-18-2016, 11:45 AM.Originally posted by FirdousiNever talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.
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I dont. I just enjoy trolling on fake Pashtuns, thats it. I don't use that kind of language with other adult members. Pay attention when you see me talking to Shamlawar, Shapur or Randolph. They are Pashtuns and I like them.Originally posted by Aryana View Postyou were dreaming about carpet bombing Pashtuns, and one you're like this? Now you have bipolar disorder as well you autistic ****? Control your sexual abuse as a dancing bacha boy before it gets out of hand."For thirty years, I endured much pain and strife,
I awaken the Ajam by this Persian [language]. "
-Ferdowsi.
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Any source regarding this?
If he did, then he did a great deed to Afghanistan. His biggest legacy would be undermining the warlords of Afghanistan. Even if he doesn't get re-elected next time, then he already did a lot to decrease the corruption in Afghanistan. I traveled to Afghanistan, and the corruption certainly have decreased greatly. I just wonder how much he would have achieved if he had the presidency for himself. Right now Abdullah x2 have prevented Ashraf Ghani in doing his job in his full potential.
I hope Ashraf Ghani gets re-elected. He will certainly get Afghanistan back in track.Don't quote me or speak to me if you hate Afghanistan, you be ignored.
People with identity crisis will be ignored as well.
''When you cant make them see the light, make them feel the heat''
Ronald Reagan
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Shamlawar a arab worshipping donkey. You like him?Originally posted by Firdousi View PostI dont. I just enjoy trolling on fake Pashtuns, thats it. I don't use that kind of language with other adult members. Pay attention when you see me talking to Shamlawar, Shapur or Randolph. They are Pashtuns and I like them.
hehe Funny guy.
To Paradise, with Pakhto, I will go.
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So true, no matter what they say he is 20x better than Karzai. He does his best and slowly makes progress. But a lot of people want some kind of miracle and turn Afghanistan in a peacefull country in a day.Originally posted by DSM0305 View PostAny source regarding this?
If he did, then he did a great deed to Afghanistan. His biggest legacy would be undermining the warlords of Afghanistan. Even if he doesn't get re-elected next time, then he already did a lot to decrease the corruption in Afghanistan. I traveled to Afghanistan, and the corruption certainly have decreased greatly. I just wonder how much he would have achieved if he had the presidency for himself. Right now Abdullah x2 have prevented Ashraf Ghani in doing his job in his full potential.
I hope Ashraf Ghani gets re-elected. He will certainly get Afghanistan back in track.
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Autistic kids (Firdousi, Shamlawar Khar) usually do come together to support each other, it's part of their nature.Originally posted by Loy Afghanistan View PostShamlawar a arab worshipping donkey. You like him?
hehe Funny guy."If a lion comes and takes your share, go get it back from the mouth of the lion"
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Whether you like Ashraf Ghani or not, it is clear he is working with the likes of Dostum, Atta, Sayyaf because he he has to, not because he wants to. According the the article I posted published in the New yorker newspaper, General Fahim wanted to kill Ghani because Ghani exposed his corruption. He has many enemies including Karzai and his warlord friends so let's see how far this approach gets Ghani.
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Why isn't he going after warlords in his own camp? He uses warlords to go after other warlords. He uses corruption to go after corrupt officials. Net result: nothing changes.Originally posted by Shapur View PostWhether you like Ashraf Ghani or not, it is clear he is working with the likes of Dostum, Atta, Sayyaf because he he has to, not because he wants to. According the the article I posted published in the New yorker newspaper, General Fahim wanted to kill Ghani because Ghani exposed his corruption. He has many enemies including Karzai and his warlord friends so let's see how far this approach gets Ghani.Originally posted by FirdousiNever talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.
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Read the article I posted a while ago in the thread "Who is Ashraf Ghani". It goes into details about his vision and why he has to work with certain people he doesn't like. Things are not black and white. Atta has support of some Tajiks and so does Dostum among Uzbeks and also US/NATO who see them as useful tools against Taliban and other groups. Any move by Ghani against these people will be used to play the ethno fascist card against a Pashtun president. I don't think Ghani is brave enough to risk a backlash but I hope he is just waiting for the right oppurtunity. If it was up to Ghani, he would replace these people with talented young technocrats and by that I don't mean expats who want to earn a quick buck. I mean all the talented and patriotic youth who are born and bred in Afghanistan and want to serve the country. Ghani's main forte is the economy and he is not much of a politician but he is adapting.Originally posted by Shamlawar Khurasani View PostWhy isn't he going after warlords in his own camp? He uses warlords to go after other warlords. He uses corruption to go after corrupt officials. Net result: nothing changes.
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Again, you are making excuses and justifying what he does. You can't prove that any if this will actually reduce corruption or the power of warlords.Originally posted by Shapur View PostRead the article I posted a while ago in the thread "Who is Ashraf Ghani". It goes into details about his vision and why he has to work with certain people he doesn't like. Things are not black and white. Atta has support of some Tajiks and so does Dostum among Uzbeks and also US/NATO who see them as useful tools against Taliban and other groups. Any move by Ghani against these people will be used to play the ethno fascist card against a Pashtun president. I don't think Ghani is brave enough to risk a backlash but I hope he is just waiting for the right oppurtunity. If it was up to Ghani, he would replace these people with talented young technocrats and by that I don't mean expats who want to earn a quick buck. I mean all the talented and patriotic youth who are born and bred in Afghanistan and want to serve the country. Ghani's main forte is the economy and he is not much of a politician but he is adapting.
Keep telling yourself that Ghani's lack of backbone or morality is somehow serving the greater good. But maybe you are too young to remember. But the same stuff was being told to us by Karzai supporters back in 2004. Look where that got us.Originally posted by FirdousiNever talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.
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Thats because Ghani is certainly an ethnofascist Pashtun. There are plenty of educated, unbiased and politically neutral Tajiks in Afghanistan and abroad and yet vast majority of his inner circle are hardcore Pashtunists. Its not just propaganda. Its a fact.Originally posted by Shapur View PostRead the article I posted a while ago in the thread "Who is Ashraf Ghani". It goes into details about his vision and why he has to work with certain people he doesn't like. Things are not black and white. Atta has support of some Tajiks and so does Dostum among Uzbeks and also US/NATO who see them as useful tools against Taliban and other groups. Any move by Ghani against these people will be used to play the ethno fascist card against a Pashtun president. I don't think Ghani is brave enough to risk a backlash but I hope he is just waiting for the right oppurtunity. If it was up to Ghani, he would replace these people with talented young technocrats and by that I don't mean expats who want to earn a quick buck. I mean all the talented and patriotic youth who are born and bred in Afghanistan and want to serve the country. Ghani's main forte is the economy and he is not much of a politician but he is adapting.
Ghani is a smart and educated person. But he doesn't know how to play politics. He has too many enemies. Even many of his supporters are fed up with the way he is running the country. Indeed warlords have played a huge role in this but the guy is not that innocent either."For thirty years, I endured much pain and strife,
I awaken the Ajam by this Persian [language]. "
-Ferdowsi.
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