is there a divide between Pakistani and Afghan Pashtuns?

[Manzareh]

Damn still on it?? You Punjabi's are like women, bitches don't get tired of drama, give it s rest and move on, don't you feel shame arguing for days on another ethnicity forum? feel sorry for your wife's, shiiit imagine how you squabble at home with your bud bud ding ding language constantly arguing lol. fagots

[Porus]

Pakistani muzlims don't care about about from where they came, for them Nadir Shah was muzlim not Irani or turk. Same with Abdali or any other muzlim invader. They were all responsible for current day Pakistan.

Nadir Shah weakened Mughal empire which in turn gave opportunity to sikhs, later on British invaded and rest is history. Pakistani muslims thank all invaders for current day Pakistan, especially British. Everything had to fall in line for Pakistan to be made, if we change one event from past then Pakistan would no longer exist. Only nuclear power in weak ass modern islamic world.

I'm glad you've said this dude! Only sensible thing you've said so far. Indeed, Pakistanis only care for invaders who had not only killed Hindus, but Muslims as well. I mean Abdali was a Muslim, but did he really care about Punjab? Did he care about it when he looted Lahore, Kasur and Multan? The majority of the inhabitants in these cities were Muslims anyway. So the entire concept of Pakistan goes back to when the people of this land were slaves of barbaric invaders who had no concern for humanity. It's a slave mentality, and it's very self-deprecating, which is why I cringe at the very idea of it.

The Khalsa Raj btw, was the only claim to fame for Punjab. I don't mind our Sufi traditions, but Ranjit Singh was the only Punjabi ruler who actually cared about his own people. The literacy rate of Punjab during his reign was 88%. People were educated in their mother-tongue as well as Persian. Many generals from Europe were called to modernise the Maharajah's army. I can, as a Punjabi say that this was the best time for Punjab.

[Porus]

Damn still on it?? You Punjabi's are like women, bitches don't get tired of drama, give it s rest and move on, don't you feel shame arguing for days on another ethnicity forum? feel sorry for your wife's, shiiit imagine how you squabble at home with your bud bud ding ding language constantly arguing lol. fagots

yh yh suck on your hindu master ballsack afghani slave

[Hunter]

Not necessarily Afghan btw. Turks and Arabs are also a highly desirable clan for 'Bakistanis'.

Basically Pakistan wants to revive the 'Islamic empire'. No Indian Muslim has had an empire (except for Tipu Sultan, who Pakistanis admire a lot too), so they look to the Muslims of the (near) Middle East for guidance on this.

Well said, notice how gardener rooh said "punjabis will rape you Hindus like centuries past". He has been brainwashed into believing that Pashtun achievments are his own and now believes that there were imaginary pakistani empires who raped and pillaged lol, i almost feel sorry for him becus in reality his ancestors were gardeners who served better people. slavery and servitude are in his blood.

[Porus]

Well said, notice how gardener rooh said "punjabis will rape you Hindus like centuries past". He has been brainwashed into believing that Pashtun achievments are his own and now believes that there were imaginary pakistani empires who raped and pillaged lol, i almost feel sorry for him becus in reality his ancestors were gardeners who served better people. slavery and servitude are in his blood.

I wouldn't call those Muslim rulers 'better' people lol. But you're right

[Iblis_Efreetzai]

Yep, he was the creator of this pathetic thread:

http://www.pashtunforums.com/new-members-and-1583-a/41713-hi-am-pakwatan.html

I cringed the entire team reading it, it just reeked of desperation and self-hatred.

LOl Rahim Shah's haram awlad


goodness, I can't imagine a Pashtun saying that even as a joke .....or even if it were true.

I don't want to degrade or attack everyone because of what Rooh wrote, but that is definitely cringey.

[Golden]

I'm glad you've said this dude! Only sensible thing you've said so far. Indeed, Pakistanis only care for invaders who had not only killed Hindus, but Muslims as well. I mean Abdali was a Muslim, but did he really care about Punjab? Did he care about it when he looted Lahore, Kasur and Multan? The majority of the inhabitants in these cities were Muslims anyway. So the entire concept of Pakistan goes back to when the people of this land were slaves of barbaric invaders who had no concern for humanity. It's a slave mentality, and it's very self-deprecating, which is why I cringe at the very idea of it.

The Khalsa Raj btw, was the only claim to fame for Punjab. I don't mind our Sufi traditions, but Ranjit Singh was the only Punjabi ruler who actually cared about his own people. The literacy rate of Punjab during his reign was 88%. People were educated in their mother-tongue as well as Persian. Many generals from Europe were called to modernise the Maharajah's army. I can, as a Punjabi say that this was the best time for Punjab.

First of all you're not panzabi, even if you are then stop repeating it in every post which only make it more obvious. Ranjit Singh himself belonged to cattle thief caste of jatts. You likely have little to do with Ranjit Singh so not sure why are you proud of his conquests? Unless you are sikh then one would understand.

Some panzabi muzlims supported Ranjit Singh while others helped British. So its likely depend on who you ask. No doubt he had many panzabi muslims in important posts.

Same with Abdali, he was after all looter/thief at the end of the day before muzlim. Do I blame Abdali for doing what he did looking back? Of course not! That was different era. But couple of days ago afghans crossed border in to Chitral and killed some Kalash people to steal goats. See many of them are still living in 17th century! They got lucky and escaped before Pak forces got there. We Pakistanis should learn from afghani mistakes and where they got wrong and move forward. Let them live in cattle stealing era.

[Forreigner]

Not necessarily Afghan btw. Turks and Arabs are also a highly desirable clan for 'Bakistanis'.

Basically Pakistan wants to revive the 'Islamic empire'. No Indian Muslim has had an empire (except for Tipu Sultan, who Pakistanis admire a lot too), so they look to the Muslims of the (near) Middle East for guidance on this.

If pakistanis are such pillars of islam how come every muslim pornstar comes from pakistan? and why are paki girls in the west ****s?

also lol at pakistan and empire in one sentence. cant even feed 90% of its population, aspires to be an empire lmao...porki delusions

[Porus]

First of all you're not panzabi

Bilkul sahi, I'm a Punjabi, not 'panzabi'.

even if you are then stop repeating it in every post which only make it more obvious.

How many posts have I said it aside from the one you've just quoted?

Ranjit Singh himself belonged to cattle thief caste of jatts. You likely have little to do with Ranjit Singh so not sure why are you proud of his conquests? Unless you are sikh then one would understand.

I'm sorry, are you asking me why I should be proud of a leader that came from my land? Let me break this down for you: he was Punjabi, he was from Gujranwala (my grandparents' hometown) and more importantly he was a good leader. The bandits that you're talking about came from the West of the Indus my Bahawalpuri dost.

Some panzabi muzlims supported Ranjit Singh while others helped British. So its likely depend on who you ask. No doubt he had many panzabi muslims in important posts.

Hindu Dogras did betray the Khalsa dynasty, most Muslims however loved Ranjit. Even if you ask them today about him, assuming they're not al-Bakistani Afghan suckups like you, they'll speak very highly of Ranjit Saab. The closest people to Ranjit were his Muslim aristocrats, one of them being Fakhr-uddin.

Same with Abdali, he was after all looter/thief at the end of the day before muzlim. Do I blame Abdali for doing what he did looking back? Of course not! That was different era. But couple of days ago afghans crossed border in to Chitral and killed some Kalash people to steal goats. See many of them are still living in 17th century! They got lucky and escaped before Pak forces got there. We Pakistanis should learn from afghani mistakes and where they got wrong and move forward. Let them live in cattle stealing era.

So you hate a bunch of immigrants from Afghanistan, the majority of whom are innocent people who left their own home because of the war that the corrupt Pakistani establishment had a role to play in, but you like a brutal warlord who did everything he could to suck the lifeblood out of Punjab? I mean come on, Abdali was a goat ****er who killed as many Muslims as Hindus. He massacred Lahoris, Multanis, Dehlawis etc. and you think he's some cool Afghan dude with a nice long beard with a tasbeeh in hand?

I've never denied your race as you have done mine OVER and over again, saying I'm not Punjabi but I seriously doubt (or wish) that you aren't a Punjabi. I can't seriously digest how you can praise ruthless invaders over the only decent ruler Punjab has had, and that because he's a Sikh. Sikhs are honourable people. They were forced into war because the Mughals and Afghans brutalised them.

It's a funny kind of relationship btw, that you love a brutal warlord but you hate ordinary Afghans. Shows that what you really want, is some big Afghan leader to dominate you. You don't want some pus sy Hazaras, or thin-ass Tajiks who might like you, you want to be enslaved by a strong Pashtun warlord. Lol only you, I feel sorry for you man.

[Rooh]

So this has ultimately turned into a hindu yemeni and one afghan(manzerah) circle jerk. LoL


Carry on gandus.

[Iblis_Efreetzai]

Manzareh is a porkistani pathan. Dont categorize him as Afghan

Unlike you, he's actually of Afghan heritage, my Uzbek "Sayyid" friend.

[Karachi]

Punjabis claiming to be not Indians is like blacks saying they are not African. The very word (Indian) or Hind comes from the Indus region, you mother chods are Indian central. It's amazing what brainwashing has done to these idiots of eastern Pakistan. They exactly look same as Indians, yet think they are related to arabs, afghans, central asians etc....

[Karachi]

some more punjabis muslims from Pakistan:

[Karachi]

^ all you have to do is just type Lahore, Rawalpindi, Faisalabad crowd in google and you will get these images, I am not even nit picking, all of the crowds in these cities look like the above.

Do they look anything different then north Indians???

Only Panju nationlists fools will think they look like arabs, persians, central asians etc...

what a confused group of people these panjus are, they are a retarted race, it is confirmed,

[Hunter]

Here are some central asian descendants LOL:




now wait for pakis to say that they are indian immigrants lol