is there a divide between Pakistani and Afghan Pashtuns?

[Iblis_Efreetzai]

You guys should meet up, for coffee of course.

I've only met one person on this forum offline, I won't say who though.

[Porus]

"My motherland is Hindustan, not a state of mind called ‘Pakistan’ created in the memory of rapists and plunderering invaders such as Bin Qasim, Mahmud Ghazni and Timur who were followed by Abdali and Nader Shah."

"Tarek Fatah was born in November 20, 1949 to a Bombay-origin father in Karachi, Pakistan, where his family had settled following the Partition of India. Fatah entered journalism as a reporter for the Karachi Sun in 1970, and was an investigative journalist for Pakistani Television. He left Pakistan and settled in Saudi Arabia."

http://readersupportednews.org/pm-section/135-135/24907-tarek-fatahs-anti-islam-and-anti-pakistan-prejudice

panzabi muzlim lol he forget to mention his Hindustani hindu cousins who raped them and made them run towards Pakistan in 1947.

What do you think of the Baloch? Do you think they're as bad as Mohajirs? And fake ass Panjoos like Tarek Fatah? What's your ethnicity bro?

[Golden]

What do you think of the Baloch? Do you think they're as bad as Mohajirs? And fake ass Panjoos like Tarek Fatah? What's your ethnicity bro?

They are on their own land for one. They are not namak harams like indian muhajirs and afghanis. I would support their freedom if Pakistan persecuted them like Indian do to Kashmiris. Now if muahjirs think they are persecuted then they always have option to go back to motherland India, where they will be received with open arms by loving hindu brothers who they left in 1947 out of their own will, right?

[Iblis_Efreetzai]

In real life he lives in Pennsylvania/DC area..

You've been lurking on this site for awhile haven't you .....I moved to the DC Metro Area last year.

[Hunter]

You've been lurking on this site for awhile haven't you .....

His previous accounts were Pakwatan and ANAcommander.

[Hunter]

They are on their own land for one. They are not namak harams like indian muhajirs and afghanis. I would support their freedom if Pakistan persecuted them like Indian do to Kashmiris. Now if muahjirs think they are persecuted then they always have option to go back to motherland India, where they will be received with open arms by loving hindu brothers who they left in 1947 out of their own will, right?

Ur hatred of ur fellow indian brothers is consuming u, even on afghan forum u cannot stop hating ur own brothers. U need to step back and analyse the situation, u are not arab, u are not persian, u are not turk. YOU ARE INDIAN.

[Iblis_Efreetzai]

His previous accounts were Pakwatan and ANAcommander.

Oh it's that dude hahahaha

[Porus]

They are on their own land for one. They are not namak harams like indian muhajirs and afghanis. I would support their freedom if Pakistan persecuted them like Indian do to Kashmiris. Now if muahjirs think they are persecuted then they always have option to go back to motherland India, where they will be received with open arms by loving hindu brothers who they left in 1947 out of their own will, right?

Just like India has Gilani and Burhan Wani, you have Brahamdagh Bugti, Mehran Marri and Mama Qadeer who's son's dead body was dumped by the Pakistan military. There's probably thousands of cases like that which have occurred in Balochistan for the past few years.

Where are you from? What's your ethnicity?

[Golden]

Ur hatred of ur fellow indian brothers is consuming u, even on afghan forum u cannot stop hating ur own brothers. U need to step back and analyse the situation, u are not arab, u are not persian, u are not turk. YOU ARE INDIAN.

Why I would hate my own brothers? Indians are my brothers. Don't take my posts seriously, I love India and bollywood.

[Iblis_Efreetzai]

"My motherland is Hindustan, not a state of mind called ‘Pakistan’ created in the memory of rapists and plunderering invaders such as Bin Qasim, Mahmud Ghazni and Timur who were followed by Abdali and Nader Shah."

If this isn't evidence about the Pakistani Nationalist psychology wishing they were Afghan, I don't know what is.

[Hunter]

Oh it's that dude hahahaha

Yep, he was the creator of this pathetic thread:

http://www.pashtunforums.com/new-members-and-1583-a/41713-hi-am-pakwatan.html

I cringed the entire team reading it, it just reeked of desperation and self-hatred.

[Porus]

If this isn't evidence about the Pakistani Nationalist psychology wishing they were Afghan, I don't know what is.

Not necessarily Afghan btw. Turks and Arabs are also a highly desirable clan for 'Bakistanis'.

Basically Pakistan wants to revive the 'Islamic empire'. No Indian Muslim has had an empire (except for Tipu Sultan, who Pakistanis admire a lot too), so they look to the Muslims of the (near) Middle East for guidance on this.

[Golden]

Just like India has Gilani and Burhan Wani, you have Brahamdagh Bugti, Mehran Marri and Mama Qadeer who's son's dead body was dumped by the Pakistan military. There's probably thousands of cases like that which have occurred in Balochistan for the past few years.

Where are you from? What's your ethnicity?

I'm panzabi from ancient brahmin/kashtriya caste who converted to Islam in the hands of Baba Farid, now we live in Bahawalpur.

Balochistan movement unfortunately doesn't look like freedom movement. I mean look at kashmir, now thats called freedom movement. Not few people killing innocents here and there with support of RAW while majority of elected nationalist Baloch leaders support Pakistan.

Now if afghans are not deported from Balochistan then even Baloch elected leaders will turn against state of Pakistan.

[Golden]

If this isn't evidence about the Pakistani Nationalist psychology wishing they were Afghan, I don't know what is.

Pakistani muzlims don't care about about from where they came, for them Nadir Shah was muzlim not Irani or turk. Same with Abdali or any other muzlim invader. They were all responsible for current day Pakistan.

Nadir Shah weakened Mughal empire which in turn gave opportunity to sikhs, later on British invaded and rest is history. Pakistani muslims thank all invaders for current day Pakistan, especially British. Everything had to fall in line for Pakistan to be made, if we change one event from past then Pakistan would no longer exist. Only nuclear power in weak ass modern islamic world.

[Iblis_Efreetzai]

Not necessarily Afghan btw. Turks and Arabs are also a highly desirable clan for 'Bakistanis'.

Basically Pakistan wants to revive the 'Islamic empire'. No Indian Muslim has had an empire (except for Tipu Sultan, who Pakistanis admire a lot too), so they look to the Muslims of the (near) Middle East for guidance on this.

That's true; but it highlights this obsession with wanting to be the people who invaded and conquered the subcontinent. I think what I meant to say, is this explains why Pakistani Nationalists have a lot of hidden envy towards Afghans, even though Afghans of this day and age are often seen as destitute, the historical relevance of Afghan conquerors plays an important role in how Pakistani Nationalists see themselves.