Suicide Bomber Kills at Least 80 in Kabul

[sunni]

I am going to post allot of stuff. This is part one:

ابو بكر القحطاني الذي وكله البغدادي بتحريف الدين. ( 3) الجهل بالتوحيد لا يصح ان يكون مناط لتكفير احد بل هو باطل : Free Download & Streaming : Internet Archive

A judge of ISIS, by the name of Abu Bakr al Qahtani is saying that one can be ignorant of tawheed (monotheism) and still be a Muslim.

This means, they consider people who commit shirk as Muslims. The maxim in Sharia is applicable here: the one who doesn't make takfeer upon kuffar is a kaafir. Therefore, a kaafir is a judge in ISIS. How can this be an Islamic government when they teach aqeedah of kufr and their own judges are kuffar?

you already post enough stuff that has lies and wrong understanding of what has been said!

anyway this is the first time i hear this audio and i don't know who this judge is and if its an IS judge or not! but what he said is not really what you understood! but you sound like the hazimies!! those who make takfir on all and are the real Ghulat that IS made good example of like: abu mus'ab altunisi and others! he said that doesn't knowing tawhid is not a reason to make takfir on someone but there are other reasons could be enough to make takfir on him!


i will get you what Ulama of Najd and ibn abdulwahaab says about it!


"Were it not for the excuse of ignorance, there would be no need to send the Messengers; people would be accountable on the basis of what is instilled in their innate nature, and there would be no need to send the Messengers. The excuse of ignorance is what is indicated by the Qur’an and Sunnah, as was stated by the leading scholars such as Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyah (may Allah have mercy on him), and Shaykh al-Islam Muhammad ibn ‘Abd al-Wahhaab (may Allah have mercy on him). But a person may be negligent in seeking knowledge, so he is sinning in that respect. In other words, it may be possible for him to learn, but he does not care to do so; or he may be told that something is haraam, but he does not care. In this case he is falling short in this regard and he is sinning thereby. As for a man who lives among people who commit a sin and think that it is permissible, then we say that he is accountable for his sin, when the message did not reach him, this is far-fetched. In fact we cannot issue rulings on the basis of our emotions; rather we issue rulings on the basis of what is indicated by sharee‘ah. The Lord, may He be glorified and exalted, says: “My mercy prevails over My wrath.” So how can we take a person to task for his ignorance when it has never crossed his mind that this is haraam? In fact Shaykh al-Islam Muhammad ibn ‘Abd al-Wahhaab (may Allah have mercy on him) said: We do not regard as kaafirs those who placed an idol [i.e., a built-up tomb] on the grave of ‘Abd al-Qaadir al-Jilani or on the grave of al-Badawi, because of their ignorance and the lack of anyone to advise them.
Liqaa’aat al-Baab al-Maftooh (33/question no. 12). "



looks like you will end up making takfir on your Imam!

[sunni]

Besides, anyone who is openly defending ISIS must be reported to the authorities. Even if the auhtorities are kuffar and murtadeen. The harm of ISIS is greater to Islam and humanity in general than kaafir/murtad authority. So therefore, a person like Sunni should be reported to the police.

I was going to reply to your stupid posts (that has no evidence) with faith of letting you know what went wrong with you! but a cunt like you can suck my ****.


Being Anti ISIS doesn't mean i should lie about them and hate everything about em.




As Karachi said ISIS follow salafis step by step, the real salafis not the cunts of shamlwar kinds! and they are far away of what saudi arabia are like! Saudis are only using salafis for their own good and already have "cunts" That would make any fatwa for them to make salafiya suit them! they imprisoned the real salafis.

[Golden]

Are you an arab? I get this retarded inbred vibes from they way you type and express yourself. Only an inbred arab is retarded enough to post **** like this, and not to forget your wanabee arab the converted Indians of Punjab.

Ignorant cunt your punjabi phobia is making you stupid. Punjabis are followers of sufis and not terrorist idologies. For them punjabis are kafirs for being followers of sufi islam.

[Shamlawar Khurasani]

you already post enough stuff that has lies and wrong understanding of what has been said!

anyway this is the first time i hear this audio and i don't know who this judge is and if its an IS judge or not! but what he said is not really what you understood! but you sound like the hazimies!! those who make takfir on all and are the real Ghulat that IS made good example of like: abu mus'ab altunisi and others! he said that doesn't knowing tawhid is not a reason to make takfir on someone but there are other reasons could be enough to make takfir on him!


i will get you what Ulama of Najd and ibn abdulwahaab says about it!


"Were it not for the excuse of ignorance, there would be no need to send the Messengers; people would be accountable on the basis of what is instilled in their innate nature, and there would be no need to send the Messengers. The excuse of ignorance is what is indicated by the Qur’an and Sunnah, as was stated by the leading scholars such as Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyah (may Allah have mercy on him), and Shaykh al-Islam Muhammad ibn ‘Abd al-Wahhaab (may Allah have mercy on him). But a person may be negligent in seeking knowledge, so he is sinning in that respect. In other words, it may be possible for him to learn, but he does not care to do so; or he may be told that something is haraam, but he does not care. In this case he is falling short in this regard and he is sinning thereby. As for a man who lives among people who commit a sin and think that it is permissible, then we say that he is accountable for his sin, when the message did not reach him, this is far-fetched. In fact we cannot issue rulings on the basis of our emotions; rather we issue rulings on the basis of what is indicated by sharee‘ah. The Lord, may He be glorified and exalted, says: “My mercy prevails over My wrath.” So how can we take a person to task for his ignorance when it has never crossed his mind that this is haraam? In fact Shaykh al-Islam Muhammad ibn ‘Abd al-Wahhaab (may Allah have mercy on him) said: We do not regard as kaafirs those who placed an idol [i.e., a built-up tomb] on the grave of ‘Abd al-Qaadir al-Jilani or on the grave of al-Badawi, because of their ignorance and the lack of anyone to advise them.
Liqaa’aat al-Baab al-Maftooh (33/question no. 12). "



looks like you will end up making takfir on your Imam!

Forget Ibn Abdul Wahhab, Hazimi and the entire Najdi movement. Give me one single ayaah of Qur'an where excuse is given for ignorance for the one who commits shirk akbar. Just one single Ayaah of Qur'an.

[Shamlawar Khurasani]

I was going to reply to your stupid posts (that has no evidence) with faith of letting you know what went wrong with you! but a cunt like you can suck my ****.


Being Anti ISIS doesn't mean i should lie about them and hate everything about em.


As Karachi said ISIS follow salafis step by step, the real salafis not the cunts of shamlwar kinds! and they are far away of what saudi arabia are like! Saudis are only using salafis for their own good and already have "cunts" That would make any fatwa for them to make salafiya suit them! they imprisoned the real salafis.

By resorting to profanity you reveal that you are not only a khaariji zindeeq and a kaafir but you are also a munaafiq. Because resorting to profanity is a trademark of munafiqeen.

Go run along you misserable fanboy of Ba'athi faux Khalifah. There is no one here who is going to play along with your silly zindeeqi games of distorting religion of Islam.

[Firdousi]

Harming civilian areas and pillaging residential areas is also forbidden, as is the destruction of trees, crops, livestock and farmlands. The Muslim forces may not loot travelers, as doing so is contrary to the spirit of jihad. Nor do they have the right to use the local facilities of the native people without their consent. If such a consent is obtained, the Muslim army is still under the obligation to compensate the people financially for the use of such facilities. However, Islamic law allows the confiscation of military equipment and supplies captured from the camps and military headquarters of the combatant armies.

Maududi (1998), p. 35
Ali (1991), p. 79, quoting Quran 2:190
Ghamidi (2006), refers to Sahih Bukhari 2629
Ghamidi (2001), refers to a hadith "plundered [food] is not better than dead meat [forbidden in Islam]" Sahih Bukhari 2705

There are plenty of hadiths declaring haram the death of unarmed civilians. ISIS has systematically violated these rules of war by butchering innocent civilians, killing their own Sunni people, burning down churches and mosques, destroying cities, villages, crops, trees,.. and so on. They can not be considered Muslims but Kharijis.

[Firdousi]

Some examples:

Samir Abdul Mohammed al-Khlifawi, one of the architects of the faux khilafah of Baghdadi, also known as Hajji Bakr was an apostate murtad kaafir zindeeq who served the Taghoot Saddam Hussain during the reign of secular Arab nationalist party of Ba'ath in Iraq. He was a former intelligence officer. He then became one of leading figures within ISIS. He never openly repented and he never denounced his allegiance with the Arab nationalist secular party of Ba'ath.




Fadel Ahmad Abdullah al-Hiyali is now Abu Muslim al-Turkmani. Abu Muslim al-Turkmani - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

He was a leading figure within Saddam Hussain's secret service. SO he was one of the close allies of a taghoot. He assisted the taghoot in implementing his policies of kufr. That makes him a kaafir. Therefore, he must repent his kufr in public for the whole muslim world in order to be perceived as a Muslim again.


Abdulrahman Mustafa al-Qaduli is also known as Abu Ala al-Afri. He was the governor of ISIS held territories in Syria. He was appointed a ruler. In Islam, murtadeen who become Muslims again are not appointed as rulers. The Arab tribes who rebeled against Abu Bakr Siddiq Radiallahu anhu during the battles of apostasy, and other tribes who followed false prophets like Aswad al Ansi were never appointed as rulers by Sahaba because in Islam once someone bcomes an apostate and returns back to the fold of Islam he is no longer elligble for position of ruler.

Its pretty well known that Saddam during the last years of his regime started a "salafization" of his army and government. He was aware that nationalism was coming to an end in the islamic world and religion would play the main role in there.

[Shamlawar Khurasani]

Its pretty well known that Saddam during the last years of his regime started a "salafization" of his army and government. He was aware that nationalism was coming to an end in the islamic world and religion would play the main role in there.

True. That however doesn't mean he suddenly became a muslim just because he borrowed from Salafism. He was a kaafir for other reasons. Anyone can become salafi. It's just a movement and an ideology. Not being a salafi is not kufr. One can be a salafi and a kaafir like ISIS.

[Shamlawar Khurasani]

Harming civilian areas and pillaging residential areas is also forbidden, as is the destruction of trees, crops, livestock and farmlands. The Muslim forces may not loot travelers, as doing so is contrary to the spirit of jihad. Nor do they have the right to use the local facilities of the native people without their consent. If such a consent is obtained, the Muslim army is still under the obligation to compensate the people financially for the use of such facilities. However, Islamic law allows the confiscation of military equipment and supplies captured from the camps and military headquarters of the combatant armies.

Maududi (1998), p. 35
Ali (1991), p. 79, quoting Quran 2:190
Ghamidi (2006), refers to Sahih Bukhari 2629
Ghamidi (2001), refers to a hadith "plundered [food] is not better than dead meat [forbidden in Islam]" Sahih Bukhari 2705

There are plenty of hadiths declaring haram the death of unarmed civilians. ISIS has systematically violated these rules of war by butchering innocent civilians, killing their own Sunni people, burning down churches and mosques, destroying cities, villages, crops, trees,.. and so on. They can not be considered Muslims but Kharijis.

These ISIS thugs are a bunch of communists. They confiscated peoples homes, drove them out of their towns and cities and gave those houses to jobless losers from France, Belgium, Netherlands and UK. These people who failed to make something out of themselves here in Europe are now living in homes taken from their rightful owners by force.

They even advertised a free home, a salary, a new car, arangements for marriage and expenses and free education plus military training for anyone who joins them. Where do they get all the money from, nobody asked. They are exactly like communists.

[Firdousi]

True. That however doesn't mean he suddenly became a muslim just because he borrowed from Salafism. He was a kaafir for other reasons. Anyone can become salafi. It's just a movement and an ideology. Not being a salafi is not kufr. One can be a salafi and a kaafir like ISIS.

Of course! it was just a political move. Just like Dr Najeeb once he realized communism was doomed in Afghanistan he embraced Islam and became religious. Now some fool Afghans even call him "shaheed" when was a kaffir commie. Joke of the century lmao

[Shamlawar Khurasani]

Of course! it was just a political move. Just like Dr Najeeb once he realized communism was doomed in Afghanistan he embraced Islam and became religious. Now some fool Afghans even call him "shaheed" when was a kaffir commie. Joke of the century lmao

Exactly. By the end of the 80's all secular thugs realized their ideology was bankrupted and they changed course but it was already too late. In fact, Najib paid some jihadi thugs within Hizb, Jamiat etc to instigate infighting. Thinking he will keep factions busy with infighting while he strengthens his power base. He was eventually deposed by his own fellow Parchamis. Their time was finished. People who still call Saddam and Najeeb heroes are extremely stupid and just as bad as this zindeeq supporter or Isis, Sunni.

[Golden]

ISIS, Taliban, Salafis, etc all are modern label to age old problem. Genocide of hazaras in Afghanistan has been going on since centuries. Afghan king Amir Abdur reduced their population by 60%. Many fled to current day Pakistan by end of 19th century.

"Tens of thousands of Hazaras fled Afghanistan at the end of the 19th Century after Amir Abdur Rahman’s armies reduced their population by 60 percent." Most of world’s Hazaras live in Afghanistan (7 million), Iran (2 million), and Pakistan (1.5 million).

The Genocide of the Hazaras: >> Sandpoint Reader

Now Afghan state can't get away with outright genocide but persecution is still on.

[Karachi]

Ignorant cunt your punjabi phobia is making you stupid. Punjabis are followers of sufis and not terrorist idologies. For them punjabis are kafirs for being followers of sufi islam.

you dung face sufis are no good either, salafis are extremists/terrorists and sufis are satanic. Both are evil

[Golden]

you dung face sufis are no good either, salafis are extremists/terrorists and sufis are satanic. Both are evil

Typical afghani, now declare sufi muslims kafir as well for not blowing themselves up.

[Iblis_Efreetzai]

Typical afghani, now declare sufi muslims kafir as well for not blowing themselves up.

LOL ......now you're calling your own kind Afghan, what a lame rod.

Tasawwouf is very wide spread and embraced in Afghanistan so you have no clue what you're talking about.