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Transliteration: Na'am bi'amkanik an tursil risaalat alaa khasنعم بإمكانك ان ترسل رسالة على الخاص!
Translation: Yes, can you send me a private message.
Transliteration: Andhur maqaalatik. Atamanaa an la takun hiya nafsuha maqaalat Ibraheem As-Sukran.انتظر مقالاتك! اتمنى ان لا تكون هي نفسها مقالات ابراهيم السكران!
Translation: I will look at your article, I hope it isn't the same article as Ibraheem Sukran's.* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
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Get lost, raafidhiOriginally posted by Bengal_Tiger View PostTransliteration: Na'am bi'amkanik an tursil risaalat alaa khas
Translation: Yes, can you send me a private message.
Transliteration: Andhur maqaalatik. Atamanaa an la takun hiya nafsuha maqaalat Ibraheem As-Sukran.
Translation: I will look at your article, I hope it isn't the same article as Ibraheem Sukran's.Originally posted by FirdousiNever talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.
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So you belive that Islam is man made.Originally posted by Forreigner View PostI like Islam, i prefer it over westerm atheist culture, but it's time for a modernized/re-interpretting/possibly even rewritting Islam. Afghanistan government should allow a rewritten/re-interpretion of Quran and it must be translated to Farsi and Pashto. Take out Muhammad and Arab elements. Remove jihad against kufaar and sharia elements. Chabge direction of prayer to Kabul, Afghanistan capital. Lets put an end to bending at the direction of the Arabs. Lets put a stop to Arab worshipping.
I also support Afghanistan make its very our own alphabet to completely distance itself from Arabs. Ancient peoples of this nation had their own alphabet but it got lost/forgotten.
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Are you an arab? I get this retarded inbred vibes from they way you type and express yourself. Only an inbred arab is retarded enough to post **** like this, and not to forget your wanabee arab the converted Indians of Punjab.Originally posted by sunni View PostIS are fighting the whole ****ing world and its not you or the f up world who decides where the war should be at! if these hazara's are sending their kids to syria they should pay for it!
these kufar kill all the muslims who lives in IS territory! look up at what happend in Fallujah, Ramadai, Hit, Tikrit...etc
and lets not lie to others EVERYTHING ISIS DO IS ACCORDING TO WHAT SHARIA ALLOWS YOU TO DO. If the ruler took an opinion of ijtihad of one Mullah's then you shouldn't have a problem with it!
There is nothing called Unarmed /civilians in islam! Lol
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I am going to post allot of stuff. This is part one:Originally posted by sunni View Postانتظر مقالاتك! اتمنى ان لا تكون هي نفسها مقالات ابراهيم السكران!
ابو بكر القحطاني الذي وكله البغدادي بتحريف الدين. ( 3) الجهل بالتوحيد لا يصح ان يكون مناط لتكفير احد بل هو باطل : Free Download & Streaming : Internet Archive
A judge of ISIS, by the name of Abu Bakr al Qahtani is saying that one can be ignorant of tawheed (monotheism) and still be a Muslim.
This means, they consider people who commit shirk as Muslims. The maxim in Sharia is applicable here: the one who doesn't make takfeer upon kuffar is a kaafir. Therefore, a kaafir is a judge in ISIS. How can this be an Islamic government when they teach aqeedah of kufr and their own judges are kuffar?Originally posted by FirdousiNever talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.
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Part two
The leadership of ISIS are all former members of the secular nationalist Arab party of Saddam Hussain, Hizb Ba'ath. In sharia, membership of any group or party outside the fold of Islam is considered as an act of kufr/apostasy. Therefore all leaders of ISIS are considered Murtadeen unless they come out in public and openly denounce their association with Saddam Hussain's party of kaafirs.
Since they haven't repented in public and since they haven't distanced themselves from their past as kaafirs, there is no reason for Muslims to assume that they are now Muslims.
Defenders of Isis claim that the leading members have repented. But they did so in secret and only to fellow members of Isis. That doesn't count so therefore, it is for Muslims in general no valid reason to consider them as Muslims.Originally posted by FirdousiNever talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.
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Originally posted by Shamlawar Khurasani View PostPart two
The leadership of ISIS are all former members of the secular nationalist Arab party of Saddam Hussain, Hizb Ba'ath. In sharia, membership of any group or party outside the fold of Islam is considered as an act of kufr/apostasy. Therefore all leaders of ISIS are considered Murtadeen unless they come out in public and openly denounce their association with Saddam Hussain's party of kaafirs.
Since they haven't repented in public and since they haven't distanced themselves from their past as kaafirs, there is no reason for Muslims to assume that they are now Muslims.
Defenders of Isis claim that the leading members have repented. But they did so in secret and only to fellow members of Isis. That doesn't count so therefore, it is for Muslims in general no valid reason to consider them as Muslims.
Some examples:
Samir Abdul Mohammed al-Khlifawi, one of the architects of the faux khilafah of Baghdadi, also known as Hajji Bakr was an apostate murtad kaafir zindeeq who served the Taghoot Saddam Hussain during the reign of secular Arab nationalist party of Ba'ath in Iraq. He was a former intelligence officer. He then became one of leading figures within ISIS. He never openly repented and he never denounced his allegiance with the Arab nationalist secular party of Ba'ath.
Fadel Ahmad Abdullah al-Hiyali is now Abu Muslim al-Turkmani. Abu Muslim al-Turkmani - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
He was a leading figure within Saddam Hussain's secret service. SO he was one of the close allies of a taghoot. He assisted the taghoot in implementing his policies of kufr. That makes him a kaafir. Therefore, he must repent his kufr in public for the whole muslim world in order to be perceived as a Muslim again.
Abdulrahman Mustafa al-Qaduli is also known as Abu Ala al-Afri. He was the governor of ISIS held territories in Syria. He was appointed a ruler. In Islam, murtadeen who become Muslims again are not appointed as rulers. The Arab tribes who rebeled against Abu Bakr Siddiq Radiallahu anhu during the battles of apostasy, and other tribes who followed false prophets like Aswad al Ansi were never appointed as rulers by Sahaba because in Islam once someone bcomes an apostate and returns back to the fold of Islam he is no longer elligble for position of ruler.Originally posted by FirdousiNever talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.
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ISIS considers people who reject their khilafah as kuffar and murtadeen. According to their official sources, if someone doesn't accept them as a legitimate Islamic government, that is considerded as an act of kufr. So they are considering all Muslims around the world to be kuffar unless they accept their Ba'athi khalifah.
Making takfeer on the entire ummah is from characteristics of khawaarij. Therefore, it is safe to say that ISIS are modern day khaariji's.
The evidence for this is their own propaganda video's and articles where they make people who have left other groups and movments to repent and say the shahada again. Why whould anyone make a muslim say the shahada in public again if they haven't left the fold of Islam?
ISIS leaders don't repent in public and say the shahada due to their own ties with an infamous taghoot like Saddam but they force people to repent and say the shahada in public as if they were murtadeen prior to joining ranks of ISIS.Last edited by Shamlawar Khurasani; 07-24-2016, 11:16 AM.Originally posted by FirdousiNever talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.
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(Sunni) is a pure Salafi, and he is right about ISIS, since ISIS is pure Salafism. What is the difference between ISIS and Saudi ARabia? not much really. I think Salafis should admit the truth or change their sect if they dont like what ISIS are doing
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Part four:
ISIS don't have any scholars of their own. Their list of scholars consist of people who are known zanaadiqah, juhaal, jahmiyyah and mentally ill deraged fanatic. What We Learn From ISIS List of “Scholars” Part 1 | Bilal Abdul Kareem Journalist
How can they claim to have an Islamic government when they don't even have scholars?
In Islam, everything is based on knowledge. Without proper scholars, you can't even run a city, let alone an entire khilafah.Originally posted by FirdousiNever talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.
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ISIS uses Najdi Dawah books and relies on Najdi dawah scholars, however, they consider Najdi scholar's aqeedah as extremist. The Najdi's don't accept excuse of ignorance in matters pertaining aslu deen ( basics of religion). They consider such people as kuffar and those who refuse to make takfeer and give excuses to such kuffar are also considered kaafirs according to Najdi scholars.
Yet, ISIS went on to execute and kill anyone who teaches takfeer of aadhir claiming they are followers of some Saudi scholar named Haazimi. As if Haazimi traveled into time and spread his ideas among founders of Najdi Dawah.
Truth is, ISIS are like many other salafists. They refuse authentic and traditional scholarship when it conflicts with their political and worldly interests.
Takfeer al-‘aadhir – from the scholars of Najd – Al-AqeedahOriginally posted by FirdousiNever talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.
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The 5 reasons I have mentioned here suffices to see why ISIS can never be considered as an Islamic group and why their leaders are not Muslims. People who have seen these issues have left the group and repented. Others who use to give them the benefit of doubt have now changed their minds.
Aside from the above mentioned problems, ISIS have many other problems such as killing of innocent people, targetting unarmed people, raping women and children and loads of other crimes.
Any sane person who knows all of this cannot honestly claim that ISIS is acting in accordance with Sharia. Therefore, I consider all of their followers as kuffar and killing of ISIS, be it by the hands of Muslims or even non-muslims is a good thing because getting rid of ta'ifa muntani'a is only benefitting islam and muslims.Originally posted by FirdousiNever talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.
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Besides, anyone who is openly defending ISIS must be reported to the authorities. Even if the auhtorities are kuffar and murtadeen. The harm of ISIS is greater to Islam and humanity in general than kaafir/murtad authority. So therefore, a person like Sunni should be reported to the police.Originally posted by FirdousiNever talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.
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