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There are some anamolies that I am surprised no one here has caught or commented on.Originally posted by Shapur View PostWhat do you mean by mixed race? What are you trying to imply here?
1. The telegraph article has the video embedded that is from the mirror - the guy's dialect is not at all in line with what is referred to as Yusufzai KP mainland/Peshawari dialect.
2. Ahmadzai in Pakistan are Wazirs and this does not at all match Wazirwola.
He unmasks his sheens into seens for example, dee becomes dowaaee (Wazirs do the latter but not often the former ---> and when I say not at all like Wazirwala I mean the word choice and specifics of the dialect because they do for instance emphasize the waw in dowaee.
Specific word choice and lexicon are not at all compatible with Yusufzai and Peshawari accent nor the Quetta accent (which is pretty much Kandari) or at all even common streer urchin parlance.
3. It does not at all even sound like the complex Bannu dialect or other lands bordering tribal districts.
4. This guy is likely a Ghilji Ahmadzai if Ahmadzai is his real last name and the word inflections like wakhtona vs wakth truncated more common in KP region or thLalaay vs thalaay give this away for anyone who has spent even a week in these regions.
If he was in any way Ahmadzai Wazir he would likely have migrated into Peshawar or Karachi and have picked up the Yusufzai dialect and switched back and forth like most of them do.
He certainly may have traveled, resided, found a home in Pakistan like hundreds of thousands of refugees and may even have been influenced there...
But the comment on khamaa and by the so called experts is both laughable and irresponsible not to mention slip shod.
Thorkham and Shamlawar and others who are fluent should also see if they agree - but I am very very very very confident and am fluent in East and West dialects and can at least understand 85% of the tribal dialects after a few days in a region.
What an immense dissappointment that fellow Pashto speakers on a Pashtun forum cannnot even make these important observations about the language and dialects of our regions and have to rely on random reports that often do get it wrong.Last edited by BarakzaiAbdali; 07-20-2016, 08:32 PM."2 crackheads don't become any better or stronger by sharing the same crack pipe." - Greatest PF quote
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I am not pashtun.Originally posted by Firdousi View PostFour Pashtuns have commented this thread so far. Lets sum up their views:
1) Asif: he might be a Tajik.
2) Loy Awghanistan: blame Pakistan.
3) Azmal: blame USA.
4) Aryana: it doesn't matter, she can't even speak Pashto lol
So, you guys are in denial. Once again I reaffirm myself: Westernization, Persianization and Punjabization of Pashtuns are the only way to stop with Pashtun barbarism. You guys don't want to change? Great. We will force you to change.
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Loy Ahmaq Wannabe White Nationalist
All Pashtuns are mixed race based on our DNA analysis. Only people who are not mixed are people who have marry their brothers and sisters and commit incest. Please stop talking before you humiliate yourself more.Last edited by Iblis_Efreetzai; 07-20-2016, 10:33 PM.
Also, as economist Kaushik Basu says: "For a nation to progress it is important for people to spend time on science, mathematics and literature instead of spending time showing that 5,000 years ago their ancestors did science, mathematics and literature."
Originally posted by ذو الفقارdon’t try to be smart.
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AFB ,,,,this is Pashtun Forums ...NOT Afghan-Pashtun Forum.
Also, as economist Kaushik Basu says: "For a nation to progress it is important for people to spend time on science, mathematics and literature instead of spending time showing that 5,000 years ago their ancestors did science, mathematics and literature."
Originally posted by ذو الفقارdon’t try to be smart.
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the guy has been radicalized. it does not matter whether he is a pakistani or an afghan as you can't blame the entire of afghanistan for the actions of one, nor pakistan.
however, why is it that when afghans are being deported from pakhtunkhuwa to afghanistan, that piece of land becomes afghan territory but when a criminal is linked to that very same piece of land, all of a sudden he becomes a pakistani?? has any of you ever heard a pashtun from that side of border speak pashtu?? so all those afghans who have developed pakistani accents due to having lived amongst pakistanies are terrorists now?? that is how you figure one is a terrorist?? by listening to their accent??
you people are such idiots. instead of focusing on the actual problem, all you ever do is chase each other's tails. EVERY SINGLE TIME.
"To burn always with this hard gemlike flame, to maintain this ecstasy, is success in life."
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Israel itself is probably the weakest country in all of the Middle East. Israel and Pakistan both are dogs of America, there won't be any point for Pakistan to ally itself against Israel, lol. Not only that, Saudi Arabia itself is an ally of America, if Israel were to attack America's oil supply, America would have the power to stop sending aid and that's the collapse of Israel entirely.Originally posted by Lakhr Khan View PostAs if Pakistan needs your blessing.... if it wasnt for pakistan isreal would've already conqured makkah . Dont hate be happy their is a Muslim country with nukes.
"If a lion comes and takes your share, go get it back from the mouth of the lion"
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All those are stupid, lol. No one wants to be bacha baz (Tajik) or a hijra prostitute (punjabisation). Only thing that will work is modernisation and infrastructure development idiot.Originally posted by Firdousi View PostWesternization, Persianization and Punjabization of Pashtuns are the only way to stop with Pashtun barbarism.
Tajiks themselves haven't changed, lol. Afghanistan's problems mainly is lack of government control and lack of infrastructure over Afghanistan. This is why I'm disappointed in Pashtuns, since we haven't eradicated the disgusting elements of Tajik culture (there are many).Originally posted by Firdousi View PostWe will force you to change.
He is a Porkistani Pashtun and there is no doubt behind that. However what we have to realise is that he is just a radicalised person. The west won't give two ****s whether he is Porkistani, Afghan, Tajik or something like that, all they care about is that he is a Muslim, and they will paint all Muslims with this one brush.Originally posted by DaZahroJaam. View Postthe guy has been radicalized. it does not matter whether he is a pakistani or an afghan as you can't blame the entire of afghanistan for the actions of one, nor pakistan.
however, why is it that when afghans are being deported from pakhtunkhuwa to afghanistan, that piece of land becomes afghan territory but when a criminal is linked to that very same piece of land, all of a sudden he becomes a pakistani?? has any of you ever heard a pashtun from that side of border speak pashtu?? so all those afghans who have developed pakistani accents due to having lived amongst pakistanies are terrorists now?? that is how you figure one is a terrorist?? by listening to their accent??
you people are such idiots. instead of focusing on the actual problem, all you ever do is chase each other's tails. EVERY SINGLE TIME.
Last edited by Aryana; 07-21-2016, 04:54 AM."If a lion comes and takes your share, go get it back from the mouth of the lion"
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lol only real dog of US is afghanistan and its joker government filled with tajiks dogs .saudi and isreal wont go to war? kid go learn about history and gulf war and then come back and talk.Originally posted by Aryana View PostIsrael itself is probably the weakest country in all of the Middle East. Israel and Pakistan both are dogs of America, there won't be any point for Pakistan to ally itself against Israel, lol. Not only that, Saudi Arabia itself is an ally of America, if Israel were to attack America's oil supply, America would have the power to stop sending aid and that's the collapse of Israel entirely.
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Most of these "ahmaqs" are suffering from inferiority complex and they have been brainwashed by the Western cultural imperialism: they want to be white and blonde just in order to look like their Western Anglosaxon masters. Its disgusting.Originally posted by Iblis_Efreetzai View PostLoy Ahmaq Wannabe White Nationalist
All Pashtuns are mixed race based on our DNA analysis. Only people who are not mixed are people who have marry their brothers and sisters and commit incest. Please stop talking before you humiliate yourself more."For thirty years, I endured much pain and strife,
I awaken the Ajam by this Persian [language]. "
-Ferdowsi.
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lolOriginally posted by Firdousi View Post17-year-old Afghan Refugee 'Pledges' Allegiance to Daesh
In a video released on social media late Tuesday a 17-year-old Afghan refugee pledges allegiance to Daesh and says that he wants to carry out an attack in Germany.
"I am a Daesh fighter and I want to tell you that today I will carry out an attack in Germany. My message to you is that you have killed our innocent civilians, children and women in Afghanistan," the Afghan refugee says in the video while brandishing a knife.
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More than half of you wouldn't spend one hour on politics yet act like they know whats true and whats not! you ppl don't know your own religion nor you can hear the truth! so your posts are according to your feelings/false knowledge about islam and the lies that you've been hearing.
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This bastar*d terrorist was Afghani not Pakistani, he even submitted a family re-union application for his whole family residing in Afghanistan according to Germany latest news. Don't make every afghani pathan terrorist in to Pakistani just because he happen to speak pashto and may have lived in Pakistan as refugee and influenced by it.
Its funny in cases like this afghanis quickly forget about Lund Afghanistan and try to distance themselves from Pakistani pathans. And even turning afghani pathans in to Pakistanis.Last edited by Golden; 07-21-2016, 02:44 PM.
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