To the Punjabi nationalists here

[Samandri]

By the way when did Paki army win a war-in 1948, 1965, 1971, 1998 (Kargil)? Yes it is organized but to conquer and perpetrate the massacre of its own people .

Indian army is more powerful than Pakistani army, and Pakistani army is more powerful than Afghan army........Actually the gap between Afghan army and Pakistan army is very huge, than it is between India and Afghanistan. I have seen Afghan soldiers addressing their superiors as "Haji saib", "Ameer saib" etc, in a very egalitarian way and non-fauji way , they are more of militia men than well-trained army.

[Toramana]

[MENTION=1201]Toramana[/MENTION]

One of the reasons you're even here on Pashtunforums and speaking Pashto today is because your Ancestors; who are Also an Ethnicity that has its origins from Punjab.....were dominated and subjugated by Pashtun conquerors;

are you sure that's something you want to gloat about or do you have that much self hatred like Bang-ghuli Talukdar that you rejoice over being subjugated by foreign invaders?

I was a master of my own fate and served none. My community was a trader community and if it were not for the skill and industriousness of my community, these "tribal" Pashtuns would still be living in their caves and would never have tasted and lured to civilization.

Moreover, in this world every body exchanges something with the other in order to live. You do me a service or sell me a product I pay you, I do you a service or sell you a product you pay me. That is a normal thing about this world. The abnormal thing is doing nothing useful, living like a parasite, being a plunderer, and gloating in one's tribal savagery and primitive-ism.

Every one has to do something-create and implement an idea, a product, provide some kind of service, etc. in order to be useful to his nation or civilization or humanity. Only tribal Pashtuns and tribal Arabs like yourself thought that they would forever live like parasites producing nothing or of no value and creating nothing and still call themselves high status---that is why you two groups are in such miserable situation.

Now you are realizing that you have to be civilized to be at par with others.

[marwat]

True, but chabahar route passes through southern afghanistan where taliban are strong in places like kandahar and helmand.First you need stability.

talib don't oppose any development projects, they have repeatedly issued statement that they will support any development project benefcial to afghan people. the dilaram zaranj road passes through their territory, they are quite happy with it. they too need roads and connectivity.

[Firdousi]

True, but chabahar route passes through southern afghanistan where taliban are strong in places like kandahar and helmand.First you need stability.

Please, educate yourself. Chabahar routes passes through Nimruz and Herat, both of them under government control with almost no Taliban presence in there. Even if it passes through Taliban places, still better option than Pakistan. Kandahar is also under government control (Helmand is a volatile province with almost of it under Taliban control).

Whether you like it or not, dear Pakistanis, Chabahar is a game changer. And it will help us to bypass you.

[Toramana]

I read an article that says that Afghan Taleban have also issued a call to unite against Punjabis/Pakistanis and to back Afghan army.

[Toramana]

I sincerely believe all Muslim communities would benefit from good brotherly relations and economic-regional integration with each other but the biggest hurdle is the Punjab military that the British created and has the habit to not to live in peace with others.

[Iblis_Efreetzai]

Only tribal Pashtuns and tribal Arabs like yourself thought that they would forever live like parasites producing nothing or of no value and creating nothing and still call themselves high status---that is why you two groups are in such miserable situation.

If You truly believe all this; then why are you continuing to pander all this racial, ethnic and nationalist nonsense? You just went from attacking another ethnicity and using ethnic politics to validate your position; to decrying ethnocentric ideologues. You seem confused.

It seems you only pose as a Noble and Lofty when someone reminds you of your origins, you share blood and ancestry with Punjabi; but then switch attitudes when it serves your agenda.

This is a classic case of someone with an inferiority complex.

[Toramana]

If You truly believe all this; then why are you continuing to pander all this racial, ethnic and nationalist nonsense? You just went from attacking another ethnicity and using ethnic politics to validate your position; to decrying ethnocentric ideologues. You seem confused.

It seems you only pose as a Noble and Lofty when someone reminds you of your origins, you share blood and ancestry with Punjabi; but then switch attitudes when it serves your agenda.

This is a classic case of someone with an inferiority complex.

I don't care about being Punjabi or any other ethnicity but will point to whoever is the aggressor in the first place. It is something political not ethnic. And why you get agitated by the way when Arabs are negatively mentioned ?

[Iblis_Efreetzai]

I don't care about being Punjabi or any other ethnicity but will point to whoever is the aggressor in the first place. It is something political not ethnic. And why you get agitated by the way when Arabs are negatively mentioned ?

If it's political and not ethnic; why do you stress ethnicity more than politics?

No one mentioned Arabs here, so you're projecting your own insecurities.