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Punjabi girl was set on fire by her family in lahore for marrying a Pashtun man
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Perhaps it's your own confirmation bias.Originally posted by Firdousi View PostYour context is wrong.
Actually Pashtuns seems to be almost always wrong.. just wonder why.
Also, as economist Kaushik Basu says: "For a nation to progress it is important for people to spend time on science, mathematics and literature instead of spending time showing that 5,000 years ago their ancestors did science, mathematics and literature."
Originally posted by ذو الفقارdon’t try to be smart.
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Originally posted by Samandri View PostA Pakistani mother on Wednesday burnt her 16-year-old daughter alive for marrying a man of her own choice, before shouting on the street to neighbours that she had killed the teen for bringing shame on her family.
It was the third so-called "honour killing" in the South Asian country in as many months, and a rare example of the crime being carried out by a woman.
Zeenat Bibi, 16, was set on fire by her mother Perveen Bibi in the eastern city of Lahore a little more than a week after the couple had acquired their marriage licence, police said.
"Perveen Bibi killed her daughter Zeenat Bibi by burning her alive around 9:00 am on Wednesday," Haidar Ashraf, a senior police official told AFP, adding the teen had married a man named Hasan Khan on May 29.
Khan's ethnicity -- he is an ethnic Pashtun, while Zeenat was a Punjabi -- was the main cause of the family's disapproval, according to the woman's family.
Zeenat's husband Khan told local TV station Geo News that the pair had eloped, but he had reluctantly allowed her to return to her family home after they promised they would hold a celebration and not harm her.
He said: "After living with me for four days following our marriage, her family contacted us and promised they would throw us a proper wedding party after eight days. Then we would be able live together.
"Zeenat was unwilling to go back to her home and told me that she would be killed by her family, but later agreed when one of her uncles guaranteed her safety.
"After two days, she called me and said that her family had gone back on their word and asked me to come to get her, but I told her to wait for the promised eight days. Then, she was killed."
Ashraf, the police official, said Perveen and other family members had confessed to the crime and that police had seized kerosene oil from the scene.
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At the victim's two-bedroom family home in a low-income southern neighbourhood of the city, Perveen's family remained defiant.
Naseem Bibi, Perveen's younger sister, told AFP: "After killing her daughter, Perveen went out on the street, took off her shawl and started beating herself on her chest, shouting: 'People! I have killed my daughter for misbehaving and giving our family a bad name.'"
"My sister declared a long time ago she would not allow her daughter to marry a Pashtun," she said.
The victim's sister Shazia also blamed Zeenat for defying her mother, but said she had urged her mother to cut ties with her instead of killing her.
Perveen's husband died several years ago and her relationship with her daughters had deteriorated, according to Shazia.
"Our mother became distressed because of her daughter's disobedience and because she felt there was no man in the house to rein her in."
Hundreds of women are murdered by their relatives in Pakistan each year on the pretext of defending what is seen as family honour.
"A Girl in the River: The Price of Forgiveness" -- a film telling the story of a rare survivor of an attempted honour killing -- won an Oscar for best documentary short in February.
Amid publicity for the film, Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif vowed to eradicate the "evil" of honour killings but no fresh legislation has been tabled since then.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/pakistani...113847056.html
She should have known better, 16 is too early for marriage, mid 20s is the ripe age to marry, not 16, she was a kid. I'm not saying she deserves this but she shouldnt have married this young. Depending on how old the man is, this could be pedophelia. (and thats nasty) it just baffles me how a man in his 20s can find a little girl attractive (shivers)
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Pedophilia from western standards....but according to Pakistani laws, 16 year old girl is full grown adult (the minimum age for marriage in Pakistan is 16 for girl, just like UK)Originally posted by Saad k View PostShe should have known better, 16 is too early for marriage, mid 20s is the ripe age to marry, not 16, she was a kid. I'm not saying she deserves this but she shouldnt have married this young. Depending on how old the man is, this could be pedophelia. (and thats nasty) it just baffles me how a man in his 20s can find a little girl attractive (shivers)
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Originally posted by Saad k View PostDepending on how old the man is, this could be pedophelia. (and thats nasty) it just baffles me how a man in his 20s can find a little girl attractive (shivers)
Yeah it baffles me too, it also baffles me how that even comes into play here. ....but let's clear one thing up
This is a little girl

This is a 16 year old

quite a difference
Also, as economist Kaushik Basu says: "For a nation to progress it is important for people to spend time on science, mathematics and literature instead of spending time showing that 5,000 years ago their ancestors did science, mathematics and literature."
Originally posted by ذو الفقارdon’t try to be smart.
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what does that even mean? I dont speak punjabi like many of us Pashtuns here....Originally posted by Golden View PostIt's not about dragging afghanis but some trolls sound hypocrital as if we don't know kon kitne pani mei hai.
I have heard of many stories of honour killing after girls run away but from first hand account most of the times people just forgive and forget after some time.
1. Some relative female cousin run away, guy turned out to be fraud. She eventually came back, from what I heard they even though of killing her. But sane heads prevailed and they married her off to someone.
2. Our distant male relative run away with afghani pathan majar girl. Afghanis started to search to kill them. Eventually both families forgave them since they married. Last time I heard they settled in Italy with childrens.
3. Family friend daughter run away with someone after she was forced to marry cousin. After some years they accepted her decision and now they talk with each other.
how many pathans will be ok with their daughter or sister running away with cousin relative, forget about stangers. lol
Running away in Pakistan is never ok no matter with who.
And by the way you are just to pround and nationalistic and sees every critic on pakistan as a personal atack. Dont be so butt-hurt.
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You had made some infuriating statements but this one is just a beauty...you sound more like a Paki these days---at the end Irkoni and Pakis are both two side of same coin for us.Originally posted by Firdousi View Post"Punjabi" is not an ethnicity. Its a demonym. There are plenty of Pashtuns in Punjab: Imran Khan, Ahmad Shah Durrani Multani,.. and so on.ای وخته بېرته راشه يو افغان وزېږوه
نو بيا يو احمد خان يا ميروس خان وزېږوه
چې ننګ په وطن وکړئ داسي ځوان وزېږوه
نويا خو خوشحال خان يا بادشا خان وزېږوه
سپن اوشن بيرغ د ازادۍ کړي زمونږ پورته
بيا داسې يو بادشا لکه امان وزيږوه
چې جوړه کړي انګريز ته بيا غزا د ارنوۍ
يو داسې لوی غازي ميرزمان خان وزيږوه
سرو مال قربان کړي له وطن او له ناموسه
په مينه د وطن کي افغانان وزيږوه
ټپې د ازادۍ کړه بورا ته په خيالونو
اوس راشه په شعرنو کي طوفان وزيږو
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How many Pashtuns would tolerate their daughter or sister running away?Originally posted by Iblis_Efreetzai View PostLet's be honest here; how many Pashtuns would tolerate their daughters or sisters running away with a Punjabi?ای وخته بېرته راشه يو افغان وزېږوه
نو بيا يو احمد خان يا ميروس خان وزېږوه
چې ننګ په وطن وکړئ داسي ځوان وزېږوه
نويا خو خوشحال خان يا بادشا خان وزېږوه
سپن اوشن بيرغ د ازادۍ کړي زمونږ پورته
بيا داسې يو بادشا لکه امان وزيږوه
چې جوړه کړي انګريز ته بيا غزا د ارنوۍ
يو داسې لوی غازي ميرزمان خان وزيږوه
سرو مال قربان کړي له وطن او له ناموسه
په مينه د وطن کي افغانان وزيږوه
ټپې د ازادۍ کړه بورا ته په خيالونو
اوس راشه په شعرنو کي طوفان وزيږو
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I don't think this Hassan Khan is a Pashtun. He doesn't look from his appearance and style of speaking. Also the womenfolk of Hassan Khan's house don't look Pashtuns. Moreover, he cannot be 29 years old because he was the class fellow of this girl.
14 Years Girl | Horrible End of Love Marriage in Lahore | Neo News - YouTube
Lahore burn girl's husband talks to media - YouTube
Teenage Girl Burned Alive By Mother for Marrying Man of Choice | Geo News - YouTube
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And this video they say it was some Biradari matter. In Punjab, Biraduri concept is very strong in emulation of Hindu caste system.
Girl Burned Alive By Mother For Love Marriage - YouTube
Husband of Pakistani woman burned alive I need justice video World news The Guardian - YouTube
Girl burnt to death by her mother for love marriage, burried in Lahore - YouTubeLast edited by Toramana; 06-12-2016, 08:36 PM.
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He has very strong and thick Punjabi accentOriginally posted by Toramana View PostI don't think this Hassan Khan is a Pashtun. He doesn't look from his appearance and style of speaking. Also the womenfolk of Hassan Khan's house don't look Pashtuns. Moreover, he cannot be 29 years old because he was the class fellow of this girl.
14 Years Girl | Horrible End of Love Marriage in Lahore | Neo News - YouTube
Lahore burn girl's husband talks to media - YouTube
Teenage Girl Burned Alive By Mother for Marrying Man of Choice | Geo News - YouTube
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I agree with you. Every single person on these videos all look and sound like typical Dravidians.Originally posted by Toramana View PostI don't think this Hassan Khan is a Pashtun. He doesn't look from his appearance and style of speaking. Also the womenfolk of Hassan Khan's house don't look Pashtuns. Moreover, he cannot be 29 years old because he was the class fellow of this girl.
14 Years Girl | Horrible End of Love Marriage in Lahore | Neo News - YouTube
Lahore burn girl's husband talks to media - YouTube
Teenage Girl Burned Alive By Mother for Marrying Man of Choice | Geo News - YouTube
It is very common in Bundjab for converted low caste Hindus to have taken the name "Khan" when they converted and then claim Afghan origins because of their inferiority complex and feelings of deep rooted shame and humiliation of coming from a family heritage of "low castes" in Indian society (the Bundjab government itself claims that punjabs arent really punjabs at all but are "descendants of the Iranians, Turks, Afghans and Arabs who came individually or in groups." -https://www.punjab.gov.pk/about_punjab_people
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Taking the name "Khan" and claiming Pashtun origin is very common among the converted "low castes" of India especially punjabis but they are fooling no one but themselves.
This case of the murdered girl is just a demonstration of typical Hindu culture of caste system and setting fire to people and clearly none of these pakis are Pashtuns and know nothing about honor and decency.Long Live Baloch Freedom Struggle Until Victory!
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lol are you serious?Originally posted by Toramana View PostAnd this video they say it was some Biradari matter. In Punjab, Biraduri concept is very strong in emulation of Hindu caste system.
Girl Burned Alive By Mother For Love Marriage - YouTube
Husband of Pakistani woman burned alive I need justice video World news The Guardian - YouTube
Girl burnt to death by her mother for love marriage, burried in Lahore - YouTube
pashto speaking pathan who killed her sister in karachi last month

I guess he's not pathan either despite both looking similar. Younger afghanis in in punjab speak urdu or punjabi like natives. Biraderi isn't like hindu caste system, you being low caste piracha pathan should know this but are in denial.Last edited by Golden; 06-12-2016, 10:53 PM.
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.Originally posted by Friends of Baloch View Post
Taking the name "Khan" and claiming Pashtun origin is very common among the converted "low castes" of India especially punjabis but they are fooling no one but themselves.Last edited by Shapur; 06-13-2016, 12:06 PM. Reason: personal insult against another member. further violations will result in infractions or even bans
Also, as economist Kaushik Basu says: "For a nation to progress it is important for people to spend time on science, mathematics and literature instead of spending time showing that 5,000 years ago their ancestors did science, mathematics and literature."
Originally posted by ذو الفقارdon’t try to be smart.
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