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  • #61
    "Pakistanis decided out of their own will that they will become independent"hahahahah lol Can you name me a single Punjabi Muslim leader or even Sindi or Gujo(ali Jenah) that has opposed British Raj or even spend a single day in British Raj jail? I'm asking for a single day, Nero, Ghandi and Ghafar khan had spend half of their lives in British Raj jail...how many days Ali Jenah, Laiqat Ali and rest had spend on British Raj Jail or show me a single article they had written against British Raj? All their effects were towards Hindus.

    This is some of your more smart countryman says

    The deleted bits from Fatima Jinnah's 'My Brother' - Blogs - DAWN.COM

    Coming to the more important part of this blog, you should know that there are some aspects of Jinnah’s life which not many Pakistanis are familiar with; probably because if these aspects were to be made public, the Pakistani bureaucracy would not be able to digest the revelations. Not only that, but most of the facts that the sister of Quaid-e-Azam Muhamad Ali Jinnah, Fatima Jinnah wrote about her brother have also been buried within history.
    My Brother is the name of the biography Fatima Jinnah wrote on Quaid-e-Azam. By the time the book made it to publication, several pages from the book's manuscript had vanished.
    The perpetrator of this feat was Mr Sharif-ul-Mujahid of the Quaid-i-Azam Academy.
    ای وخته بېرته راشه يو افغان وزېږوه
    نو بيا يو احمد خان يا ميروس خان وزېږوه

    چې ننګ په وطن وکړئ داسي ځوان وزېږوه
    نويا خو خوشحال خان يا بادشا خان وزېږوه

    سپن اوشن بيرغ د ازادۍ کړي زمونږ پورته
    بيا داسې يو بادشا لکه امان وزيږوه

    چې جوړه کړي انګريز ته بيا غزا د ارنوۍ
    يو داسې لوی غازي ميرزمان خان وزيږوه

    سرو مال قربان کړي له وطن او له ناموسه
    په مينه د وطن کي افغانان وزيږوه

    ټپې د ازادۍ کړه بورا ته په خيالونو
    اوس راشه په شعرنو کي طوفان وزيږو

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    • #62
      Originally posted by Azmal View Post
      I will be nice to you for it is Ramazan. I honestly don’t know how you can compare 1919 the date of Rawalpindi treaty between British Raj and Afghan state as result of 3rd Anglo-Afghan war as being a successor of British Raj? On contrary it proves that Afghan state was won by blood of her own people not result of servitude to Saheeb. Can you tell me a single war or even a single word your so called leaders have spoken against British Raj—including your father of nation Ali Jenah—come on educate me. Is your Military not the same old British Raj---Punjab Regiment, Frontier forces and …? Go on read about leaders, from Bhutto to Zia-ul-Haq who was in British Inidan army and actually fought for British in world war II. Even your political anylize Ahmed Qurashi proudly claim his grandfather was part of British India army and fought in Iraq but he refused to fight in Jerusalem(this is point of pride for him ahahah lol)
      Here is a few more fact

      ISI:
      ISI was the brainchild of Australian-born British Army officer, Major General R. Cawthome, then Deputy Chief of Staff in the Pakistan Army.

      Pakistan Militray:
      Remnant of British India army, made up of Indian-Muslims whom have faithfully served British for 200 years... Including but not limited against Iraq , Afghanistan , World War 1 and 2.

      Army:
      First two Chief of Army Staff of the Pakistan Army where General Sir Frank Messervy (August 15, 1947 - February 10, 1948) General Sir Douglas David Gracey ( February 11, 1948 - January 16, 1951 .



      Pakistan air force.
      Air force Chiefs
      Air Vice Marshal Allan Perry-Keane (August 15, 1947 - February 17, 1949)
      Air Vice Marshal R.L.R. Atcherley (February 18, 1949 - May 6, 1951)
      Air Vice Marshal L.W. Cannon (May 7, 1951 - June 19, 1955)
      Air Vice Marshal A.W.B. McDonald (June 20, 1955 - July 22, 1957)

      Naval Chiefs
      Vice Admiral J.W. Jefford CB CBE (August 14, 1947 - January 31, 1953)


      So as you can see Pakistani establishment is the same mercenaries of the British Raj engaged in violence and betrayal against their own. These are the same people who serve Colonial Britain to the end, with their reward having been the wholesale theft of other people’s lands. These people are responsible for dividing tribes and families apart whilst keeping them that way through means that both foster and maintain a state of ignorance and moral depravity in both south and central Asia.


      Question for you… you state “British forced you guys to sign what they wanted.” True to some point..but the question is how can you as our “Muslim brother” inherited what our enemy forced us to sign?
      On one hand you claim Islam this and Islam that, on other hand you still have a force called frontiers force and just few years ago change the name of NWFP which borders Afghanistan….do you even know old meaning of frontier when British were using it? It means the region at the edge of a settled or civilized area and that of barbarians. A frontier also means as a "front". A difference has also been established in academic scholarship between Frontier and Border, the latter denoting a fixed, rigid and clear-cut form of state boundary. The frontier force which was created by your Saheeb and still operates in and around Durand is a clear indication that you don’t accept Durand as boundary.

      ps: Afghanistan is no Nepal…tell me how many times a Nepali had ever ruled Hindustan? Yet your forefathers had been ruled by Afghans for hundreds of years, if it was not for your British Saheeb whom you are the successor we would have had still ruled you…so get your facts right. Even culturally you can't complete a single sentence in your national language of Urdu without using Dari words---this much subservient you are to us and yet you compare us to Negal?
      Again illogical gibberish, British used to invade and occupy Afghanistan but just like Nepal they didn't see any worth keeping barren land which barely supported it's own people.

      Your king used this strategic advantage to make as much money as possible by keeping British interested because of Russians. He was humiliated and forced to sign 1919 treaty in GHQ.

      Nothing wrong if Pakistan inherited modern and well discipled army from British empire, which will later on go on to become most powerful army in Islamic world and only muslim country with Nuclear weapons. Afghanistan is still under occupation for last 50 years and ANA will be legacy of western powers if they ever leave.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by Azmal View Post
        "Pakistanis decided out of their own will that they will become independent"hahahahah lol Can you name me a single Punjabi Muslim leader or even Sindi or Gujo(ali Jenah) that has opposed British Raj or even spend a single day in British Raj jail? I'm asking for a single day, Nero, Ghandi and Ghafar khan had spend half of their lives in British Raj jail...how many days Ali Jenah, Laiqat Ali and rest had spend on British Raj Jail or show me a single article they had written against British Raj? All their effects were towards Hindus.

        This is some of your more smart countryman says

        The deleted bits from Fatima Jinnah's 'My Brother' - Blogs - DAWN.COM

        Coming to the more important part of this blog, you should know that there are some aspects of Jinnah’s life which not many Pakistanis are familiar with; probably because if these aspects were to be made public, the Pakistani bureaucracy would not be able to digest the revelations. Not only that, but most of the facts that the sister of Quaid-e-Azam Muhamad Ali Jinnah, Fatima Jinnah wrote about her brother have also been buried within history.
        My Brother is the name of the biography Fatima Jinnah wrote on Quaid-e-Azam. By the time the book made it to publication, several pages from the book's manuscript had vanished.
        The perpetrator of this feat was Mr Sharif-ul-Mujahid of the Quaid-i-Azam Academy.
        I'm not a fan of Jinnah neither care about personal life of other people, he served his purpose somewhat but failed in others.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by Golden View Post
          Nothing wrong if Pakistan inherited modern and well discipled army from British empire, which will later on go on to become most powerful army in Islamic world
          Most "powerful" army in the 'Islamic world' ?





          What a joke! These two faced paki cowards are a disgrace and bring shame to the Muslims.

          punjabis are the most conquered and servile people in the World.
          Long Live Baloch Freedom Struggle Until Victory!
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          Long Live Baloch Freedom Struggle Until Victory!

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          • #65
            Originally posted by Golden View Post
            I'm not a fan of Jinnah neither care about personal life of other people, he served his purpose somewhat but failed in others.
            [MENTION=1444]Azmal[/MENTION] asked you to provide sources about your 500$ Chinese trade claim.

            Its hilarious how you Pakis are believing all your establishment propaganda. Western provinces of China are the poorest one in that country. Eastern provinces are the wealthiest ones.. do you really think they are going to shift all the trade centers from the east to the west in order to use your port? You are joke, Pakis. No wonder nobody takes you seriously lmao
            "For thirty years, I endured much pain and strife,
            I awaken the Ajam by this Persian [language]. "

            -Ferdowsi.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by Golden View Post
              Again illogical gibberish, British used to invade and occupy Afghanistan but just like Nepal they didn't see any worth keeping barren land which barely supported it's own people.

              Your king used this strategic advantage to make as much money as possible by keeping British interested because of Russians. He was humiliated and forced to sign 1919 treaty in GHQ.

              Nothing wrong if Pakistan inherited modern and well discipled army from British empire, which will later on go on to become most powerful army in Islamic world and only muslim country with Nuclear weapons. Afghanistan is still under occupation for last 50 years and ANA will be legacy of western powers if they ever leave.
              British or Saheeb as you guys used to call them were forced to leave...1st Anglo Afghan war where more than 20 thousands British troops including some of your forefathers serving them were killed. The second Anglo-Afghan war specially Battle of Maiwand where another 3000 British troops including some of your forefathers serving them were killed. The third Anglo-Afghan war although Afghan won the battle, liberation of Waziristan but political lost by inking the Rawalpindi treaty. Worst Afghan government under Amanulllah even lied to Wazer and Massoud Afghan tribes that treaty is temporary—talk about backstabbing your own people. You should really read about 1st Anglo-Afghan war and how they brought there family and start playing cricket like it was India. If it was for British they would have given most of north-eastern Afghanistan to Ismahils.

              What is amazing is how you can glorify British Raj against Muslim Afghanistan but at the same time claim Islam this and Islam that?
              It is not just Jinnah, I have read both of his biography he is not what Pakistani try to portray him nor he is what his enemies Indian do…in best case Jinnah was a puppet at hands of Saheeb. I’m talking about the All-India Muslim League party—that established Pakistan. You cannot find a single leader or member in All-India Muslim League whom had ever opposed British Raj or said anything against the Saheeb rule. All member of All Indian Muslim league faithfully served British Raj and there reward was Pakistan.
              Anyways, point is Pakistan is following a very destructive policy—the old British Raj forward policy—using religion as a tool…which mark my words will burn Pakistan to ashes. Honestly no matter how much I abhorrence Pakistani state, I would not like the killing or suffering of Pakistani people…at the end they are our Muslim brothers and they are the real victim of their murderous rulers.
              ای وخته بېرته راشه يو افغان وزېږوه
              نو بيا يو احمد خان يا ميروس خان وزېږوه

              چې ننګ په وطن وکړئ داسي ځوان وزېږوه
              نويا خو خوشحال خان يا بادشا خان وزېږوه

              سپن اوشن بيرغ د ازادۍ کړي زمونږ پورته
              بيا داسې يو بادشا لکه امان وزيږوه

              چې جوړه کړي انګريز ته بيا غزا د ارنوۍ
              يو داسې لوی غازي ميرزمان خان وزيږوه

              سرو مال قربان کړي له وطن او له ناموسه
              په مينه د وطن کي افغانان وزيږوه

              ټپې د ازادۍ کړه بورا ته په خيالونو
              اوس راشه په شعرنو کي طوفان وزيږو

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