Building of Dams and controlling water in Afghanistan hurts Pakistan

[Golden]

We are in Ramadan brother. And here you are praising the rape of your fellow sisters in faith just to save face on an online forum. You are disgusting. A true ambassador of Pakistan.

Praising rape? Do you take me for afghani slaves who are happy with the fact NATO forces are raping their sisters and mothers?

[Firdousi]

Typical slave, of course you're happy with NATO lol Your interest? You're under occupation, your masters decide your interests and future.

Begging is Afghani speciality, you beg in Pakistan of all places.

As long as they sh*t on Pakistan its fine to me. Same thing goes for India.

Now die in your rage, bro. You know I am right. :D

[Friends of Baloch]

They are also exporting terrorism and sweat mangoes lmao

Never mind. CPEC will solve everything LOL

Pakiland also exported polio disease to Syria and Iraq.

"A 12-month emergency immunization response across the Middle East appears to have halted an outbreak of polio that began in Syria and Iraq, according to health experts meeting in Beirut.

The outbreak, which paralysed at least 38 children in Syria and Iraq and prompted fears of a major epidemic, triggered an unprecedented response that immunized more than 27 million children across 8 countries. The outbreak in Syria – which spread to Iraq in early 2014 -- occurred due to the introduction of poliovirus from Pakistan."

http://www.unicef.org/media/media_78947.html

[Golden]

Recently afghani host was pissed and got personal with ex-ISI general in interview. Reason? He was shocked at the fact that general said Afghanistan was under occupation, come the **** on lmao

[Firdousi]

Pakiland also exported polio disease to Syria and Iraq.

"A 12-month emergency immunization response across the Middle East appears to have halted an outbreak of polio that began in Syria and Iraq, according to health experts meeting in Beirut.

The outbreak, which paralysed at least 38 children in Syria and Iraq and prompted fears of a major epidemic, triggered an unprecedented response that immunized more than 27 million children across 8 countries. The outbreak in Syria – which spread to Iraq in early 2014 -- occurred due to the introduction of poliovirus from Pakistan."

http://www.unicef.org/media/media_78947.html

They are also exporting their masters sport, cricket, to Europe:

Refugees boost German cricket teams

Refugees boost German cricket teams - BBC News

Wow, disguised as refugees. Hilarious lol

[Friends of Baloch]

They are also exporting their masters sport, cricket, to Europe:

Refugees boost German cricket teams

Refugees boost German cricket teams - BBC News

Wow, disguised as refugees. Hilarious lol

Germans will give these pakis a punch in the face sooner or later and put them back on a plane to Rawalpindi.

They talk about cultural exchange of pakis to Germany by playing an English sport? These pakis are a joke! One these fake paki refugees even admitted he is a Sikh!

[Shamlawar Khurasani]

I opened this thread to discuss the merits of strategic ties with India. Nowhere did I suggest that we should block the flow of all the water into Pakistan. But the insane and immoral Pakistani nationalist interprets this as such. Mudden's response reveals how nationalist Pakistanis think and how they reason.

Unlike Pakistan and Iran, Afghanistan doesn't benefit from any course of action where only Afghanistan gets all the returns in investment. Therefore it is unimaginable to see any large scale diversion of entire water flow into Pakistan or Iran. But if we could deny water to specific people like Bannu Pathan and Mudden, then I am all for it.

[Firdousi]

I opened this thread to discuss the merits of strategic ties with India. Nowhere did I suggest that we should block the flow of all the water into Pakistan. But the insane and immoral Pakistani nationalist interprets this as such. Mudden's response reveals how nationalist Pakistanis think and how they reason.

Unlike Pakistan and Iran, Afghanistan doesn't benefit from any course of action where only Afghanistan gets all the returns in investment. Therefore it is unimaginable to see any large scale diversion of entire water flow into Pakistan or Iran. But if we could deny water to specific people like Bannu Pathan and Mudden, then I am all for it.

Nor we will nor we should. Instead we will sell them water and electricity at very hight rates. We used to be dependent on Pakistan. Now seems the tide is turning. Lets have some fun trolling Pakis. They are hilarious. Its good to see them moaning and crying nonsenses lol

[Da Bannu Mazdigar]

I opened this thread to discuss the merits of strategic ties with India. Nowhere did I suggest that we should block the flow of all the water into Pakistan. But the insane and immoral Pakistani nationalist interprets this as such. Mudden's response reveals how nationalist Pakistanis think and how they reason.

Unlike Pakistan and Iran, Afghanistan doesn't benefit from any course of action where only Afghanistan gets all the returns in investment. Therefore it is unimaginable to see any large scale diversion of entire water flow into Pakistan or Iran. But if we could deny water to specific people like Bannu Pathan and Mudden, then I am all for it.

Shamlawara khuday de dumra taqat naqi daar che pa mizha oba band kay.Mara ta kho de akhpal kor na takhdale kas ye,Daasey ghatay kisey maaka.

Dear this is too much for someone like you who lives on the hard earned tax paid money of the people of the country you live under asylum.

[Azmal]

Really Farthouse? Iran didn't say a word? For over 10 years DeKharzoy due to pressure of Iran would not open salma dam. Ghani was blackmailed and even threaten but he said to hell with you Irkonis and your dogs.

Here is how hurt Irkonis are...for those that don't know Farsi...it says Salma dam will destroy Mashaad and must be stopped.

http://7sobh.com/content/%D8%A8%D8%B...-%DA%A9%D9%87/


Here is a Kabuli Tajik Afghans respond to these Irkonis!

" چيزي به مراتب با ارزشتر و بزرگتر از سلما كه امروز اتفاق افتاد! "اختيار آب ما، دست خود ما آمد!" بند سلما در زمان شهيد داوود خان پلان شده و الي ٢٥٪ كار آن نيز تكميل گرديده بود؛ شوربختانه در اثر انقلابهاي ٧ و ٨ ثور، خانه جنگي ها و... كار آن نا تكميل باقي ماند. در سال ٢٠٠٥ حامد كرزي، رئيس جمهور پيشين، بنابر مساعدت سخاوتمندانه ي كشور دوست هند، كار اين بند را از سر گرفت. از آنروز تا اكنون حدودا" ١٠ سال ميگذرد! آري، كار ساختماني بند به اين اندازه به درازا نمي كشيد! اما دولت ايران با اعمال فشارهاي گوناگون، از طريق پرداخت بوجي هاي دالر به ادارهء آنوقت حكومت افغانستان منحيث رشوه، ايجاد هرج و مرج و آشوب در ولسوالي چشت شريف هرات، براي چندين سال نگذاشت ما از آب خود ما، استفاده كنيم. به عبارت ديگر، آب از ما، ولي اختيار آن از ايران بود! اما، آنچنانيكه در هنگام كمپاين هاي انتخاباتي وعده كرده بود، رئيس جمهور غني از همان آغاز كارش، مسئله ي بند سلما و حق افغانستان براي استفاده از آب هريرود، را بصورت جدي پيگيري كرد. به ايران فهماند كه به اساس اصول بين المللي، ما حق داريم از آب خود ما بهره ببريم! حتي چند بار خامنه اي و روحاني با پيام هاي گوناگون رئيس جمهور غني را ترغيب نمودند تا آب هريرود را كه بند دوستي "ايران-تركمنستان" به آن متكي است، مهار نسازد. ولي، رئيس جمهور جسورانه از حق و اختيار افغانستان دفاع نمود! اين مسئله حتي چند روز قبل هنگام افتتاح بندر چابهار نيز توسط روحاني مطرح و با پاسخ تند رئيس جمهور غني مواجه شد. براي نخستین بار ما توانستيم اختيار آب خود را بدست گيريم و به همسايه هاي مان پيام واضح بفرستيم كه: "حق مان را گرفتني هستيم!" نویسنده :قاسم شمس نظری

[Khostai]

I opened this thread to discuss the merits of strategic ties with India. Nowhere did I suggest that we should block the flow of all the water into Pakistan. But the insane and immoral Pakistani nationalist interprets this as such. Mudden's response reveals how nationalist Pakistanis think and how they reason.

Unlike Pakistan and Iran, Afghanistan doesn't benefit from any course of action where only Afghanistan gets all the returns in investment. Therefore it is unimaginable to see any large scale diversion of entire water flow into Pakistan or Iran. But if we could deny water to specific people like Bannu Pathan and Mudden, then I am all for it.

building dams means stabilizing the water flow actualy and it would benefit Pakistan. But from most uneducated lowlifes a dam is like a wall for them, where they think all the water will be stoped.

[Azmal]

I will advice afghanis to not play around with lives of Pakistanis, even thinking of stopping water is grave sin and can punished by dropping up to 3 nukes on Kabul.

Don't blame us Afghans, blame you’re murderous militarily and rulers. You start the game---being successor of British Raj for Afghanistan and Pashtons in particular. Tell me what good did your country gain from continuing to follow British Raj forward policy towards us?

For sake of argument let’s forget how your coward military create; train and exports terrorist in Afghanistan...lets concentrate on tread. Just as lower country have rights on water/river from upper countries...land lock countries also have right of passage to sea port...yet for past 70 years you keep blackmailing and kicking Afghanistan by either shutting the sea route or delaying the transit of goods---as it has been going on for past 15 years. You don't even honor the Afghanistan–Pakistan Transit Trade Agreement (also known as APTTA) that you inked with Ghani a few years ago---not one item of APTTA was implemented by Pakistani government even after assurance by your prime minster.

To Afghans:
The issue is not coward backstabbing successor of British Raj Pakistan---the issue is us Afghans. The civil war has not yet been over, for past 40 years we have sob sold-out leaders like dekhar zoy(who has accepted Pakistan invitation to visit Pakistan next months--when Pakistan is under tremendous pressure after mullah Mansour killing) who put money ahead of national interest. Also as country we have absolutely no leverage on our neighbors both Iran and Pakistan. Specially Iran, they have a lot of influences on our Shia---we can play the Suni card for there are a lot of Sunis in Iran but we lake resources. Under Helmand water treaty Iran owes more than 10 billion US dollars for past 30 years of using our water, ye they refuse to even talk about it.



Pakistan on other hand is total different ball game, although Pakistan state is a successor of British Raj for us but they are fighting for their survival as state and they know that a strong Afghan state will hurt them really bad. Even the Taliban—whom are Pakistani proxies-- hated Pakistan –this is the sorry state of Pakistan.
Ghani no matter you like him or hate him is the first ruler in Afghanistan history that is using economy as leverage to bargain---if only the Saqawi gang allow him to do his job!


Band e Salma was one of my parent’s dreams, I remember as a child how much they used to talk about Band e Salma 25% of work was done back in Doud khan time and 5 years Daoud khan master plan--- so it rubbed on me too. In this 3rd day of Ramazan from bottom of my heart oh Allah thank you for Band e Salma.

[Azmal]

Pakistan has already given up on Afghanistan otherwise it would have allowed Land trade between Afghanistan and India and further central asia.

Because Pakistan consider this as insignificant and negligible trade potential because of the economic state of Afghanistan and Indian trade potential with CAR(less than 1 Billion dollars).

Pakistan is focusing on CPEC because the potential of China trade through Gwadar is in excess of 500 Billion dollars initially when competely operational(2023-25).

Security is far more important than trade for us.Afghanistan already is being used as a terrorist heaven against Pakistan with all the major Pakistani taliban leaders being provided safe heaven by Ashraf Ghani and Abdullah x2 administration.

We lost so many lives bringing our country to present level and making our economy stable and growing from the verge of collapse.

Dam built,water level effecting us or whatever,we can live with it but not India and Afghanistan Sponsoring terrorist activities within Pakistan.

Zindabad Chabahar.

Pakistan is focusing on CPEC because the potential of China trade through Gwadar is in excess of 500 Billion dollars initially when competely operational(2023-25). ---
I would like to see source for this claim....Peleeej(please with Pakistani accent).

[Golden]

Don't blame us Afghans, blame you’re murderous militarily and rulers. You start the game---being successor of British Raj for Afghanistan and Pashtons in particular. Tell me what good did your country gain from continuing to follow British Raj forward policy towards us?

For sake of argument let’s forget how your coward military create; train and exports terrorist in Afghanistan...lets concentrate on tread. Just as lower country have rights on water/river from upper countries...land lock countries also have right of passage to sea port...yet for past 70 years you keep blackmailing and kicking Afghanistan by either shutting the sea route or delaying the transit of goods---as it has been going on for past 15 years. You don't even honor the Afghanistan–Pakistan Transit Trade Agreement (also known as APTTA) that you inked with Ghani a few years ago---not one item of APTTA was implemented by Pakistani government even after assurance by your prime minster.

To Afghans:
The issue is not coward backstabbing successor of British Raj Pakistan---the issue is us Afghans. The civil war has not yet been over, for past 40 years we have sob sold-out leaders like dekhar zoy(who has accepted Pakistan invitation to visit Pakistan next months--when Pakistan is under tremendous pressure after mullah Mansour killing) who put money ahead of national interest. Also as country we have absolutely no leverage on our neighbors both Iran and Pakistan. Specially Iran, they have a lot of influences on our Shia---we can play the Suni card for there are a lot of Sunis in Iran but we lake resources. Under Helmand water treaty Iran owes more than 10 billion US dollars for past 30 years of using our water, ye they refuse to even talk about it.



Pakistan on other hand is total different ball game, although Pakistan state is a successor of British Raj for us but they are fighting for their survival as state and they know that a strong Afghan state will hurt them really bad. Even the Taliban—whom are Pakistani proxies-- hated Pakistan –this is the sorry state of Pakistan.
Ghani no matter you like him or hate him is the first ruler in Afghanistan history that is using economy as leverage to bargain---if only the Saqawi gang allow him to do his job!


Band e Salma was one of my parent’s dreams, I remember as a child how much they used to talk about Band e Salma 25% of work was done back in Doud khan time and 5 years Daoud khan master plan--- so it rubbed on me too. In this 3rd day of Ramazan from bottom of my heart oh Allah thank you for Band e Salma.

Watch out your tune, you're slave of Indian and NATO so stop lecturing us. You're masters will decide course of your history, don't blame us. Afghanistan successor state of British too, remember 1919? Just because British never found any reason to keep barren land under occupation which will be burden on empire doesn't mean anything. Pakistanis decided out of their own will that they will become independent, muslims around the world are happy at the fact that country like Pakistan exist which can protect them in time of need. While afghani king singed deal with British to keep his cruel empire intact where he used to slaughter midget tajiks and forcefully convert nuristani hindu kafirs. Afghanistan is as unnatural as it can gets, no ethnicity had any say wether they want to become part of it or not. British forced you guys to sign what they wanted.

Think of your self as Nepal, it's amazing how striking similarities are between both countries in last few hundred years. From race to British policies.

[Azmal]

Watch out your tune, you're slave of Indian and NATO so stop lecturing us. You're masters will decide course of your history, don't blame us. Afghanistan successor state of British too, remember 1919? Just because British never found any reason to keep barren land under occupation which will be burden on empire doesn't mean anything. Pakistanis decided out of their own will that they will become independent, muslims around the world are happy at the fact that country like Pakistan exist which can protect them in time of need. While afghani king singed deal with British to keep his cruel empire intact where he used to slaughter midget tajiks and forcefully convert nuristani hindu kafirs. Afghanistan is as unnatural as it can gets, no ethnicity had any say wether they want to become part of it or not. British forced you guys to sign what they wanted.

Think of your self as Nepal, it's amazing how striking similarities are between both countries in last few hundred years. From race to British policies.

I will be nice to you for it is Ramazan. I honestly don’t know how you can compare 1919 the date of Rawalpindi treaty between British Raj and Afghan state as result of 3rd Anglo-Afghan war as being a successor of British Raj? On contrary it proves that Afghan state was won by blood of her own people not result of servitude to Saheeb. Can you tell me a single war or even a single word your so called leaders have spoken against British Raj—including your father of nation Ali Jenah—come on educate me. Is your Military not the same old British Raj---Punjab Regiment, Frontier forces and …? Go on read about leaders, from Bhutto to Zia-ul-Haq who was in British Inidan army and actually fought for British in world war II. Even your political anylize Ahmed Qurashi proudly claim his grandfather was part of British India army and fought in Iraq but he refused to fight in Jerusalem(this is point of pride for him ahahah lol)
Here is a few more fact

ISI:
ISI was the brainchild of Australian-born British Army officer, Major General R. Cawthome, then Deputy Chief of Staff in the Pakistan Army.

Pakistan Militray:
Remnant of British India army, made up of Indian-Muslims whom have faithfully served British for 200 years... Including but not limited against Iraq , Afghanistan , World War 1 and 2.

Army:
First two Chief of Army Staff of the Pakistan Army where General Sir Frank Messervy (August 15, 1947 - February 10, 1948) General Sir Douglas David Gracey ( February 11, 1948 - January 16, 1951 .


Pakistan air force.
Air force Chiefs
Air Vice Marshal Allan Perry-Keane (August 15, 1947 - February 17, 1949)
Air Vice Marshal R.L.R. Atcherley (February 18, 1949 - May 6, 1951)
Air Vice Marshal L.W. Cannon (May 7, 1951 - June 19, 1955)
Air Vice Marshal A.W.B. McDonald (June 20, 1955 - July 22, 1957)

Naval Chiefs
Vice Admiral J.W. Jefford CB CBE (August 14, 1947 - January 31, 1953)

So as you can see Pakistani establishment is the same mercenaries of the British Raj engaged in violence and betrayal against their own. These are the same people who serve Colonial Britain to the end, with their reward having been the wholesale theft of other people’s lands. These people are responsible for dividing tribes and families apart whilst keeping them that way through means that both foster and maintain a state of ignorance and moral depravity in both south and central Asia.


Question for you… you state “British forced you guys to sign what they wanted.” True to some point..but the question is how can you as our “Muslim brother” inherited what our enemy forced us to sign?
On one hand you claim Islam this and Islam that, on other hand you still have a force called frontiers force and just few years ago change the name of NWFP which borders Afghanistan….do you even know old meaning of frontier when British were using it? It means the region at the edge of a settled or civilized area and that of barbarians. A frontier also means as a "front". A difference has also been established in academic scholarship between Frontier and Border, the latter denoting a fixed, rigid and clear-cut form of state boundary. The frontier force which was created by your Saheeb and still operates in and around Durand is a clear indication that you don’t accept Durand as boundary.

ps: Afghanistan is no Nepal…tell me how many times a Nepali had ever ruled Hindustan? Yet your forefathers had been ruled by Afghans for hundreds of years, if it was not for your British Saheeb whom you are the successor we would have had still ruled you…so get your facts right. Even culturally you can't complete a single sentence in your national language of Urdu without using Dari words---this much subservient you are to us and yet you compare us to Negal?