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  • #16
    Originally posted by Aryana View Post
    Of course there are some people who can't pronounce "f". I'm from Paktia as well, but only rarely have I heard a Pashtun pronounce "f" as "p" because as far as I know ف is a part of the Pashto alphabet. Even Iranians have a و but half the time they pronounce it as a "v".
    Ergo I am right.

    Thanks you, ghool lol
    "For thirty years, I endured much pain and strife,
    I awaken the Ajam by this Persian [language]. "

    -Ferdowsi.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Aryana View Post
      There is a letter "f", it is just clearly you're uneducated in either Pashto or in Afghanistan. Only some people can't pronounce "f", but all Farsiwan can't even pronounce "w" (you only got it from outside influence) and you speak in what can be called the most feminine accent on Earth. Only let women speak Farsi, the men sound so feminine when they speak. "Afghanistan" is Persian? Never once in Farsi grammar do you word it like that. The word Afghanistan comes from Sanskrit.
      Tajiks whole language is not even theirs LOL. Farsi came from iran province fars.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by History of Pashtuns View Post
        That British author was Sir Olaf Careo, governor of NWFP......accused by All India Congress to be friend of Muslim league.

        There is additional issue in Pakistan. "Pathan", a term coined by Hindus, is pitched against proper word Pashtun/Pakhtun. Punjabis, Kashmiris and Sindhis are using this term due to their Hindu past, but you might come across a Pakistani Pashtun who would say "za pathan yama", "I am proud to be a Pathan" etc.
        Maybe they used Pathan becuase ist hard for them to say Pashtun or Pakhtun.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by khushal View Post
          He may be right about about the "F" sound. I know in our area of Paktia, we do not have the "F" sound. We call ourselves Apghan and we say Parsiwan. But this came from not Persians but Arabs. The correct term for "Farsi' is "Parsi." Arabic have no "p" sound so their influence changed it to "Farsi." The same with Palistine into Falistine.
          You are probably from some retarded inbred village. This is the first time I hear that a Pashtun will call himself Aphghan instead of Afghan.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Firdousi View Post
            Ergo I am right.

            Thanks you, ghool lol
            Donkey brain, you dont even have your own language.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Firdousi View Post
              Ergo I am right.

              Thanks you, ghool lol
              Is it hard to comprehend "a few"? Or does your bacha baz mind not grasp that concept? It's understandable why you're stooping down further and further; Tajiks have no culture or language of their own.
              "If a lion comes and takes your share, go get it back from the mouth of the lion"

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              • #22
                Dari is beautiful and far more pure than Iranian Farsi. Most Iranians even admit as much.
                There are people today who think that admitting God’s absolute greatness decreases the value and importance of humans in the creation, as if God and mankind are rivals competing in greatness and power. Meanwhile I feel that whenever our perception of God’s greatness increases, with it we become greater, because we are the creation of a great God.

                Sayyid Qutb

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                • #23
                  Easy!
                  Since it was a time of war of Independence against Mughals, so that explains the Warning in the first bit of the Quotation!
                  As for the Synonyms, it's the same as 'Persian is Farsi, Farsi is Persian'!

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by randolph85 View Post
                    Dari is beautiful and far more pure than Iranian Farsi. Most Iranians even admit as much.
                    Dari and Farsi are the same language, brother. Its just like Pakistani and Afghani Pashto. I mean my Herati accent is much closer to Mashadi than to Kabuli.. so do we Herati speak Dari as well? What about Mashadis, do they speak Farsi or Dari?

                    But you are right: Afghan accents sound much better than Iranian. Most of my Iranian friends admit this. Its more melodious, less Arabic loanwords and got a stronger influence from Eastern Iranian languages such as Parthian and Bactrian. Gap, Doogh, Dorough, Asp, Zard, Zardak, Roshan,.. are pure Bactrian words.
                    "For thirty years, I endured much pain and strife,
                    I awaken the Ajam by this Persian [language]. "

                    -Ferdowsi.

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                    • #25
                      This quote is a reminder that Pashtuns are one people regardless which country they reside. The interest of the Pashtun people are one and the same, and the Pashtun people should work for the interest of all Pashtun people as the first priority, everything else should come as second.

                      Sadly Pashtuns aren't working for the interest of Pashtuns nowadays.
                      Don't quote me or speak to me if you hate Afghanistan, you be ignored.

                      People with identity crisis will be ignored as well.

                      ''When you cant make them see the light, make them feel the heat''
                      Ronald Reagan

                      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7cmZyOrUA0

                      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QC9sz0nPePI

                      Pashto dictionary:
                      http://thepashto.com/index.php

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Firdousi View Post
                        Pashtuns are not Afghans. Pashtuns are "Awghans". Once again, my tribal friends: Pashto lacks of the letter "f" (you just adopted it thanks to Persian influence). Afghanistan and Afghan both are Persian terms, not Pashtun. Have you ever talked to Pashtun from eastern provinces? Its hilarious the way they speak Farsi. They are unable to pronounce "f" so they make mistakes all the time. Hilarious lol
                        Here you go, recycling hot-airs of Rafizjee Qazilbash Dr Jawid.

                        "The Latin word Alba(mountain) and Alban (mountaineer) is the source of Armenian Alwan, Alban, or Alban, though ordinarily so pronounced indifferently, is written the Armenian character with letters which, being translated, read as Aghvan or Aghwan, and this world, pronounced Alvan, etc., in Armenia, in the colloquial dialect of their eastern neighbors is changed to Aoghan, Avghan and Afghan; which last, with its Arabic Plural Afaghinah is from commonly used by the Arab and other Muhammadan writers. In signification the word is the same as current Persian Kohistani and Turki Daghistani, and means Mountaineer.”

                        An Inquiry Into the Ethnography of Afghanistan: Prepared and Presented to the ninth international congress of Orientalists. Henry Walter Bellew London September 1891.
                        ای وخته بېرته راشه يو افغان وزېږوه
                        نو بيا يو احمد خان يا ميروس خان وزېږوه

                        چې ننګ په وطن وکړئ داسي ځوان وزېږوه
                        نويا خو خوشحال خان يا بادشا خان وزېږوه

                        سپن اوشن بيرغ د ازادۍ کړي زمونږ پورته
                        بيا داسې يو بادشا لکه امان وزيږوه

                        چې جوړه کړي انګريز ته بيا غزا د ارنوۍ
                        يو داسې لوی غازي ميرزمان خان وزيږوه

                        سرو مال قربان کړي له وطن او له ناموسه
                        په مينه د وطن کي افغانان وزيږوه

                        ټپې د ازادۍ کړه بورا ته په خيالونو
                        اوس راشه په شعرنو کي طوفان وزيږو

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Aryana View Post
                          Of course there are some people who can't pronounce "f". I'm from Paktia as well, but only rarely have I heard a Pashtun pronounce "f" as "p" because as far as I know ف is a part of the Pashto alphabet. Even Iranians have a و but half the time they pronounce it as a "v".
                          Iranian pronounce of و as V is due to Turkish influences, just like modern greek are decedent of slaves, modern Persian are decedent of invading Turks.
                          ای وخته بېرته راشه يو افغان وزېږوه
                          نو بيا يو احمد خان يا ميروس خان وزېږوه

                          چې ننګ په وطن وکړئ داسي ځوان وزېږوه
                          نويا خو خوشحال خان يا بادشا خان وزېږوه

                          سپن اوشن بيرغ د ازادۍ کړي زمونږ پورته
                          بيا داسې يو بادشا لکه امان وزيږوه

                          چې جوړه کړي انګريز ته بيا غزا د ارنوۍ
                          يو داسې لوی غازي ميرزمان خان وزيږوه

                          سرو مال قربان کړي له وطن او له ناموسه
                          په مينه د وطن کي افغانان وزيږوه

                          ټپې د ازادۍ کړه بورا ته په خيالونو
                          اوس راشه په شعرنو کي طوفان وزيږو

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Khostai View Post
                            You are probably from some retarded inbred village. This is the first time I hear that a Pashtun will call himself Aphghan instead of Afghan.
                            Retards like yourself lack knowledge in history and it seems like your having your period at the same time as inputting the fact that the people you hate the most has given you your identity as you see it.
                            The older people still say Apghan or Abghan because they cant say the "F" sound. Afghan was first mentioned by Arab historian in Hudud al Alam and it is clear that Arabs did not have a "P" sound.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by khushal View Post
                              Retards like yourself lack knowledge in history and it seems like your having your period at the same time as inputting the fact that the people you hate the most has given you your identity as you see it.
                              The older people still say Apghan or Abghan because they cant say the "F" sound. Afghan was first mentioned by Arab historian in Hudud al Alam and it is clear that Arabs did not have a "P" sound.
                              Retard alert

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                              • #30
                                Pashtuns do have have habit of pronouncing "fay" as "Pay", most of the times.............Not just old ones, but any one.......In our areas, "Fazlu" becomes "Pazlu", "fuwara" becomes "puwara" and so on.....but its not strictly true that they are unable to pronounce "fay", they do pronounce many words with this alphabet...for example "faqeer" remains faqeer, not "pakeer". "Ferishta " as ferishta.........

                                We dont call each other Afghan, so i dont know whether we were calling ourselves "Afghan' or "Apghan"........but nowadays we say "Afghan" and "Afghanistan", even though this conversion of "fay" into "pay" is very strong in our areas
                                Last edited by Samandri; 05-24-2016, 10:19 AM.

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