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  • #16
    Originally posted by tilla_jogian View Post
    Not in Afghanistan where war is between pashtuns vs farsis and not religious in nature.
    What a moronic statement, the war in Afghanistan is entirely religious in nature. There are even some Taliban members of Punjabi, Uzbek, Tajik, etc. background.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Azad Pashtunistan View Post
      What a moronic statement, the war in Afghanistan is entirely religious in nature. There are even some Taliban members of Punjabi, Uzbek, Tajik, etc. background.
      Propaganda, why any punjabi, tajik or uzbek will fight with afghani taliban who are more in to pashtunistan and hate other ethnic groups? Afghani taliban may kill few pashtuns on their way but their target is always farsis. Why do you think Afghani soldiers desert every day? Everyone knows pashtun soldiers desert to not fight taliban.
      Last edited by tilla_jogian; 04-23-2016, 12:35 AM.
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      • #18
        Originally posted by tilla_jogian View Post
        Propaganda, why any punjabi, tajik or uzbek will fight with afghani taliban who are more in to pashtunistan and hate other ethnic groups? Afghani taliban may kill few pashtuns on their way but their target is always farsis. Why do you think Afghani soldiers desert every day? Everyone knows pashtun soldiers desert to not fight taliban.
        Where did you hear the Taliban talking about Pashtunistan??

        How are their targets always Farsi when the vast majority of their kills have been Pashtuns??

        Only a minority of the Taliban is non-Pashtun. They join it because they're Islamists.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Azad Pashtunistan View Post
          Where did you hear the Taliban talking about Pashtunistan??

          How are their targets always Farsi when the vast majority of their kills have been Pashtuns??

          Only a minority of the Taliban is non-Pashtun. They join it because they're Islamists.
          You are confusing TTP with afghani Taliban, one was religious movement which is now dead after Zarb-Azb and other is ethnic warfare. TTP used to kill pashtuns and they didn't target any ethnicity in particular in Pakistan. People in KPK were easy target because close proximity to FATA.

          But afghani taliban are completly different beast, they are pan pashtun nationalists along with islamists. They need justification for crimes against other afghani ethnic group like farsis and their version of Islam provide them just that. Killing some pashtuns on their way to Kabul doesn't mean anything. Point is Afghani soldiers desert to not fight Taliban, those soldiers are mostly pashtuns.

          Even in 90's Afghani taliban refused demand from Paki pashtun leaders to accept durrand line as permanent border. And that's when Pakistan had most influence on Afghan taliban yet they didn't care.
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          • #20
            Originally posted by tilla_jogian View Post
            You are confusing TTP with afghani Taliban, one was religious movement which is now dead after Zarb-Azb and other is ethnic warfare. TTP used to kill mostly pashtuns and they didn't target any ethnicity in particular in Pakistan. People in KPK were easy target because close proximity to FATA.

            But afghani taliban are completly different beast, they are pan pashtun nationalists along with islamists. They need justification for crimes against other afghani ethnic group like farsis and their version of Islam provide them just that.
            I'm not confusing anybody. The Afghan Taliban are religious fanatics just like the TTP.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Azad Pashtunistan View Post
              I'm not confusing anybody. The Afghan Taliban are religious fanatics just like the TTP.
              Yes but with one main difference, Afghan taliban are also pan pashtunists.
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              • #22
                Originally posted by tilla_jogian View Post
                Yes but with one main difference, Afghan taliban are also pan pashtunists.
                Most of their kills are fellow Pashtuns from Pashtun majority regions. Kandahar and Nangarhar have been a lot more dangerous than Badakhshan and Takhar for that reason. This is really such a silly argument.

                Show me proof of their ethnic hatred towards non-Pashtuns.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Azad Pashtunistan View Post
                  Most of their kills are fellow Pashtuns from Pashtun majority regions. Kandahar and Nangarhar have been a lot more dangerous than Badakhshan and Takhar for that reason. This is really such a silly argument.

                  Show me proof of their ethnic hatred towards non-Pashtuns.
                  Pashtuns identity was formed after Islam, let's say thanks to Islam. There is a reason you will not find any trace of non-muslim pashtun. Because being muslim and pashtun is same thing, one can't be one and not other.

                  So Afghan taliban being islamists doesn't mean they are no longer pan pashtunists
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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Karachi View Post
                    I dont think they have any of the major cities, they are mostly probably conquering some desert areas, but this Barakzai is having wet dreams about it
                    Yes that janitor is sick in his head. He lives in USA the biges "kuffar" nation on the planet and want taliban sharia for his people back at home. I think he is not even Afghan.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Khostai View Post
                      Yes that janitor is sick in his head.

                      Says the guy that cried to a Russian Jewish girl literally in print about his series of exam failures.

                      Most are still confused as to why a red light district male escort made exclusively for men tried to go to school since his brain power was already limited.

                      He lives in USA the biges "kuffar" nation on the planet and want taliban sharia for his people back at home. I think he is not even Afghan

                      LOOOOOOOOOOL. Oh thats rich. The guy that wants to murder people for their religion and impose Abdullah Abdullah so that he can keep getting back door visits into the Arg to be Ghani's personal escort and fun time love boy is staking a claim.

                      Remember Khaista Bibi, make sure your customers protect themselves because they will be made that you are loaded with some pretty advanced STDs - but being who you are, what else should we have expected?

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Khostai View Post
                        Yes that janitor is sick in his head. He lives in USA the biges "kuffar" nation on the planet and want taliban sharia for his people back at home. I think he is not even Afghan.
                        For a muslim, he has one dirty mind & always thinking about gay scenarios in his head.



                        "False beliefs influence our actions and degrade our character."

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Damir9000 View Post
                          For a muslim, he has one dirty mind & always thinking about gay scenarios in his head.
                          Oh isn't this cute? You gonna pay him like Ghani does or half price for his services? You know that you don't need to publicly flirt with him... he's paid to deal with your perv needs. LOOOOOL.
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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by BarakzaiAbdali View Post
                            Oh isn't this cute? You gonna pay him like Ghani does or half price for his services? You know that you don't need to publicly flirt with him... he's paid to deal with your perv needs. LOOOOOL.
                            you're like 40 year old, right?



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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Damir9000 View Post
                              you're like 40 year old, right?
                              No lol, still a spring chicken in good health in great contra distinction to a burned out vodka Roach sucking off gay men to make a paycheck since his college degree amounted to telemarketing equivalency. You're thinking of that other guy Scimitar.
                              Last edited by BarakzaiAbdali; 04-23-2016, 08:59 PM.
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                              • #30
                                As someone who is from the Kandahar/Quetta region, who was in Kandahar city just a few weeks ago, I have to say that a substantial number of people, for whatever reason, are actually in favor of the Taliban so it is no surprise to me that the Taliban could win actually win lol and these days their policies are more relaxed towards things like music, drugs, internet, TV and even education so that they could attract even more liberal types to support them. You will see Taliban members now smoking weed and checking their Facebook.
                                Last edited by Barakzai Supply; 04-23-2016, 09:18 PM.
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