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Sir the Pakistani nukes are not merely for Pakistan but they are as much of bangladesh,turkey,saudi arabia,indonesia,afghanistan,egypt as much they are for Pakistan.
Wait until we get our economy on track and free ourselves from western agencies debt and controlling our economy.We will officially offer Nuclear umbrella to whole Muslim world"[B][SIZE="3"]Seer Speen Wazeer[/SIZE][/B]" -
I'm curious. Are you sure you won't invade countries, and further advance strategic depth?Originally posted by Da Bannu Mazdigar View PostEven Adobe Photoshop can't change me.
A line[Durrand line] of hatred that raised a wall between the two brothers -Hamid Karzai
For generations, the Hindus of India prayed for deliverance from "the venom of the cobra, the teeth of the tiger and the vengeance of the Afghan."
The men of Kábul and Khilj also went home; and whenever they were questioned about the Musulmáns of the Kohistán (the mountains), and how matters stood there, they said, "Don't call it Kohistán, but Afghánistán; for there is nothing there but Afgháns and disturbances." Thus it is clear that for this reason the people of the country call their home in their own language Afghánistán, and themselves Afgháns. The people of India call them Patán; but the reason for this is not known. But it occurs to me, that when, under the rule of Muhammadan sovereigns, Musulmáns first came to the city of Patná, and dwelt there, the people of India (for that reason) called them Patáns—but God knows!
-Ferishta, 1560–1620Comment
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A prostitute that willingly sells its arse must first learn to protect itself rather than protecting its pimp.Originally posted by Da Bannu Mazdigar View PostComment
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Strategic depth is wrongly understood by many as controlling or invading Afghanistan territory but in reality the strategic depth only meant to have a Pakistan friendly govt in kabul.Originally posted by Admin Khan View Post
Please refer to my earlier posts where i explained in detail as to why the merger of even a small city let alone any major portion of Afghanistan threaten the existence of Pakistan and Pakistaniat."[B][SIZE="3"]Seer Speen Wazeer[/SIZE][/B]"Comment
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The forces on front always suffer.We are the only thing between Islam and kufar.So it is inevitable that we will always be in some sort of kufr supported instability.Originally posted by khushal View Post
We were given the task of protecting Muslim world and uniting them under one flag.We will do whatever it takes to protect them.
This also include disco Muslim like you and shamlawar."[B][SIZE="3"]Seer Speen Wazeer[/SIZE][/B]"Comment
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Don't you think that your so called strategic depth had an opposite effect. Despite having religiously, historically, ethnically, economically, socially ties with Afghanistan, yet I wont exactly call it a friendly government. Haven't it occurred to you guys that it will be better to exploit those ties I mention above, instead of pursuing your ''strategic depth''.Originally posted by Da Bannu Mazdigar View Post
It is a normal human instinct to counter work anything that goes against their ''will''. What I am referring to is your ''strategic depth''. Pakistan want to control Afghanistan, Afghanistan don't want to be controlled. Paksitan hates India, India hates Pakistan. So let me ask you a question. What will you do in Afghanistan's place from a strategic point of view. The obvious answer is to counter weight Pakistan with India, to prevent being controlled by Pakistan.
Why else do you think Afghanistan is so friendly with India. I mean Afghanistan have no border with India, and India have to go all the way around several countries to reach Afghanistan. The answer is simple, India get to help a country that is in a bad footing with Pakistan, and Afghanistan will be able to stand on its feet against his unfriendly neighbor.
- Pakistan want strategic depth in Afghanistan
- Afghanistan don't want Pakistani strategic depth
- Pakistan and India don't like each other
- Afghanistan become friendlier with India to prevent Pakistani strategic depth
This equation will completely change if the Pakistanis changed their attitude toward Afghanistan. India will be completely out of equation. And a friendlier government in Kabul will automatically be established as soon they don't feel threatened. Pakistan shares a long border with Afghanistan and shares ethnic groups. Just by using soft power and the ethnic card, they could manage to have enormous influence inside Afghanistan.
Instead of doing that, Pakistan desperately want their ''strategic depth'' and now there is chaos in both countries. And don't tell me that your strategic depth haven't back bitted Pakistan. Without even getting deep into the situation, just by looking at the civilian casualties and the political tension is already a prove.Last edited by DSM0305; 12-06-2015, 07:17 AM.Don't quote me or speak to me if you hate Afghanistan, you be ignored.
People with identity crisis will be ignored as well.
''When you cant make them see the light, make them feel the heat''
Ronald Reagan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7cmZyOrUA0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QC9sz0nPePI
Pashto dictionary:
http://thepashto.com/index.phpComment
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1. Pakistan has killed more Muslims than Israel.
2. Pakistan has raped more Muslims than Israel.
3. Pakistan has recently made more Muslims refugees than Israel.
At least 1 million in FATA (there may still be another 2 million Pashtun refugees from previous operations)
Pakistan is a failed state.
Pakistan and its army and ISI were created by the British. Its role is to be a source of permanent instability in the region including the regions Muslims e.g. Baloch, Mohajirs, Pashtuns, Afghans etc.
The fundamental problem with Pakistan is that it is a military state ruled by a corrupt junta with a cosmetic civilian administration.
Pakistan does not even have a foreign minister, but two "advisors" on foreign policy to the prime minister.
Nawaz Sharif, a corrupt Lahori businessman, has management of certain basic issues but anything of any real strategic importance is controlled by the military including:
- Kashmir issue
- Relations with India
- Afghanistan
- Bangladesh
- The army will veto anything the civilian administration does which it does not agree with.
The "elected" (bogus elections) government is merely a sub-sontractor who has to do things the army is not interested in, but can never overrule it.
The Pakistani army is obsessed with its enmity with India.
The Pakistani army does not seek to resolve anything with India because it feels good from the adrenaline of feeling like warriors against a foe. Also if there is peace with India the army's role will be questioned and perhaps reduced. The army will lose its power and thus its wealth (the Pakistani army is notoriously corrupt and many senior officers use the army as a good way to make money e.g. real estate deals etc)
Pakistani generals, meeting presided over by the former army chief, Kayani who is now being linked to corruption.
Ashfaq Kiyani, former head of the army is now known as a corrupt thief.
So with a nationalistic army unsympathetic to the suffering of other non-Punjabi ethnic groups, Pakistan will remain a dysfunctional state.
Eventually most likely it will collapse.
However if there were to be a proper civilian government which truly ran the country then there would be peace with India, good relations with Afghanistan and Bangladesh and a prioritization of poverty alleviation, economic development and so on.
However an army-run Pakistan suits the west (US, UK etc) that created Pakistan as it perpetuates instability, conflict and suffering in south Asia and Afghanistan.
Pakistan exists and is allowed to exist to cause continued misery and suffering for millions in south Asia + Afghanistan.* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *Comment
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Originally posted by DSM0305 View Post
1. Afghans can do very little to persuade the Pakistani military to stop its war against Afghanistan.
2. However Pakistan is losing in Afghanistan. Why?
In addition to India, Afghans have the support of China and Russia who do not like "Islamic" extremists e.g. Taliban.
They also have the support of Turkey which does not want a Taliban government in Kabul because Turkey supports Turkic Uzbeks, Turkmen and Hazaras (Mongoloid but still felt to be Turanic by Turkey).
3. The Taliban took Kunduz for a day or two, what has happened since then?
Nothing.
They are a joke.
Every day that passes by in Afghanistan is a day in which a young girl becomes better educated, young Afghans go online and learn more about the world i.e. every day is a day in which Afghans become more and more distant from the backwards ideology of the Taliban.
This is not the 1990s any more, the Taliban are finished and thus are their masters in Pakistan.
Essentially Afghans have won their war against Pakistan.
The issue now is not about mere survival but having enough peace to facilitate economic development.
Russia, China, Iran, Turkey, Tajikistan, Uzbekistan and others all support Afghanistan.* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *Comment
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Afghanistan was different from the rest of the Muslim world, being a subservient Soviet cuck willing to be used as a base for KGB ops in the subcontinent. For 30 years they desperately tried to break apart Pakistan. I don't see why they're complaining about the bitchslap they received in response.Originally posted by Admin Khan View PostComment
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I expect members of this forum to be honest at least. Pakistan at most wanted neutral government in Kabul not even friendly one. While Afghanistan actively supported anti-Pak activities.Originally posted by DSM0305 View PostBest post in PF history
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''Today the ideology of Pakistaniat within Pakistanis is so strong that even if world war 3 is fought within Pakistan boundries,Pakistan will survive.'' [/I]Da Bannu MazdigarComment
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Leave all this and lets be neutral.Infact look at it from the perspective for Pakistan for a moment.Originally posted by DSM0305 View Post
*When Pakistan was formed,the only country having voiced against Pakistan was Afghanistan.You should read the article by sohrab in Khaama press where he clearly mentioned that this was the step that lead to the miss trust between the 2 countries.Why voice in UN when we can deal with them directly.Pakistan was weaker than Afghanistan and in direct response could had even handed over some territory.
*Assassination of Liaqat ali khan despite the effort he made to form a federation of Iran,Pakistan and Afghanistan.Infact he promoted Pakistan-Afghanistan relations but was murdered in return
*Now the invasion of bajaur,this was perhap the time when the leaders/establishment of Pakistan to consider the threat from Afghanistan real and lets deal with.Afghanistan in the meantime directly supported ANP leaders like what is Pakistan doing in Kashmir with kashmiri leaders.
The invasion of bajaur destroyed any sort of possibility of better relations between pakistan and Afghanistan.Maybe this was the point when Pakistan had realized that something had to be done with Afghanistan.
Now tell me if Afghanistan doesn't even recognize half of Pakistan,From president to Army chief voice for merger of half of Pakistan territory with Afghanistan,than how the hell can you even claim to be not hostile with Pakistan?
As i said earlier,think from Pakistan Perceptive and tell me do you think Pakistan should develop good ties with Afghanistan despite the fact that Afghanistan doesn't even recognize half of Pakistan?"[B][SIZE="3"]Seer Speen Wazeer[/SIZE][/B]"Comment
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I believe that 20 years from now,Pakistan and India will have developed good relations but i doubt in case of Pakistan and Afghanistan."[B][SIZE="3"]Seer Speen Wazeer[/SIZE][/B]"Comment
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I doubt Afghanistan will even exist in the next 20 years.Originally posted by Da Bannu Mazdigar View PostComment
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Afghanistan/Pashtunistan have survived almost 40 years of war and civil war. And had been in its worse condition 1992-...Originally posted by Orakzai View Post
It has survived. But I doubt porkistan will survive in the future when its allies are in decline like USA-UK etc. Hybrid-mix raced and fake nation are hardly something that survives for to long. Check Israel survies only because of billions if not even trillions of tax money coming to it from Europe and USA.
But you porki hybrids and the rest of poor brainwashed afghans or traitors can dream until Pashtunistan is no more.
Pashtuns are ancient, we have defeated FAR worse adversary than today's problem. These weak and cowards Ghulams aka panjabi-and hybrid panjabis will suffer and become yet again our slaves like their ancestors have been for the past 5000-10000 years.To Paradise, with Pakhto, I will go.Comment
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