Ethnic Composition in Afghanistan

[Feroza_Banu]

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[Feroza_Banu]

Sher Khana,


I am shocked that you as a Pashutn cannot pull your head out of the a big pile of CIA sheeet. I wonder why you have such a contempt in disputing Pashtuns demographic and number in Afghanistan? What is it, why, where does it stem from? Regardless that Afghanistan is 60-70 ethnically Pashtun, we disregard that and we are by nature the owner of that land, there is no dispute. Your Tajik this and that is quite tiresome and pathetic.


Follwoing the desposition of Taliban, only few amongst Pashtun cooperated with big powers, and those who did, were mainly groups opposed to and were persecuted by Taliban, who offered opportunity for short term state formation. And these at the time and context were mainly armed warlords of the Northern Alliance, one of the few remaining power structures, who invariably were integrated into the new central state system by major international actors in Afghanistan in a very exigent manner. You need understand this. Afghanistan is a post conflict state and the entire world were on the resolute side to defeat the Taliban. Since then Afghanistan has gone through major transformation. And we are absolutely satisfied. Today our president is Pashtun, our defence minister is, our minister of finance, economy, agriculture, head of secrete services NDS, our chief of army staff, our minister of economy, our minister of commerce, our minster tribal affairs, our minister communication, our foreign minstry etc.! We are the king makers in Afghanistan. You wouldn't open you mouth if you weren't amazingly ignorant or you are eighter doing it puposely, I don't know what you are suffering from. Numbers don't matter.

The worse crime of our people was to migrate to Peshawar so it can be turned into "peghoor" by maggots and rubbed onto our face. I think it should get rubbed at our face, we responsible for destroying out beautiful country, we have let ourselves down. It was the result of our self-serving and beghairata leaders who made our proud people to become muhajers. And to be honest although our people chose saftey due to killing spree of Russians where millions of us were slaughtered, but my pride doesn't allow me to have to explained that to you as a reason. Kho Khair da tyaarah shpa ba hum teera see, aw che pa kuma wee'aley kshe ooba tlaley wee bia ba hum pa kshe larri see! I am mentioning all this to you as a response to your other posts in other threads, not only to but also you likes.

You have another 100 years to go get to the level of Afghan Pashtuns! Even I if were to go with you and your CIA account, we are the real born leaders. ta Panjab da hoot hoot kawa aw sar de pa hagha salshamoo hum ghwarawa!lol

And don't open that mouth of yours which stinks with tteerrrr ppppeeerrrrr of Urdu and English about our Pashtu and how it is subserviant to other languages. That is never the case and never will be, our language, our culture and civil society is flourishing and it is shinning.

doy dasai khalak dei che afghanistan pa khob ham na ee ledali aw khabari kawei chei afghanistan dasai dai aw haghasai dai... doy afghanistan pa bara kei tsa pahegi... yawazi hagha shay che pakistan media warta khaayee ham agha worta rikhtya malomeegi... dagha khalak dei che kha sam 'pakistani brainwashed' sawi dei... daghasi che pakistan ghoshti che afghanistan tota tota sei daghasi doy ham ghwarri.....

may Allah never bring a day upon us that we see afghanistan in two or three pieces... May Allah swt protect our land, our honor... tol khalak ba por mong bandai wokhandi ka daa kaar woshei... Khudai de hes kala da wakht ra nawrri ameen!...

[BLS_1919v2.0]

Sher Khana,


I am shocked that you as a Pashutn cannot pull your head out of the a big pile of CIA sheeet. I wonder why you have such a contempt in disputing Pashtuns demographic and number in Afghanistan? What is it, why, where does it stem from? Regardless that Afghanistan is 60-70 ethnically Pashtun, we disregard that and we are by nature the owner of that land, there is no dispute. Your Tajik this and that is quite tiresome and pathetic.


Follwoing the desposition of Taliban, only few amongst Pashtun cooperated with big powers, and those who did, were mainly groups opposed to and were persecuted by Taliban, who offered opportunity for short term state formation. And these at the time and context were mainly armed warlords of the Northern Alliance, one of the few remaining power structures, who invariably were integrated into the new central state system by major international actors in Afghanistan in a very exigent manner. You need understand this. Afghanistan is a post conflict state and the entire world were on the resolute side to defeat the Taliban. Since then Afghanistan has gone through major transformation. And we are absolutely satisfied. Today our president is Pashtun, our defence minister is, our minister of finance, economy, agriculture, head of secrete services NDS, our chief of army staff, our minister of economy, our minister of commerce, our minster tribal affairs, our minister communication, our foreign minstry etc.! We are the king makers in Afghanistan. You wouldn't open you mouth if you weren't amazingly ignorant or you are eighter doing it puposely, I don't know what you are suffering from. Numbers don't matter.

The worse crime of our people was to migrate to Peshawar so it can be turned into "peghoor" by maggots and rubbed onto our face. I think it should get rubbed at our face, we responsible for destroying out beautiful country, we have let ourselves down. It was the result of our self-serving and beghairata leaders who made our proud people to become muhajers. And to be honest although our people chose saftey due to killing spree of Russians where millions of us were slaughtered, but my pride doesn't allow me to have to explained that to you as a reason. Kho Khair da tyaarah shpa ba hum teera see, aw che pa kuma wee'aley kshe ooba tlaley wee bia ba hum pa kshe larri see! I am mentioning all this to you as a response to your other posts in other threads, not only to but also you likes.

You have another 100 years to go get to the level of Afghan Pashtuns! Even I if were to go with you and your CIA account, we are the real born leaders. ta Panjab da hoot hoot kawa aw sar de pa hagha salshamoo hum ghwarawa!lol

And don't open that mouth of yours which stinks with tteerrrr ppppeeerrrrr of Urdu and English about our Pashtu and how it is subserviant to other languages. That is never the case and never will be, our language, our culture and civil society is flourishing and it is shinning.

That is unfair to take that type of peghour on Pashtunkhwa people and say it will take a 100 years to reach the level of people west of the durand line. What level to be honest is that of a Pashtun? Lets be honest wror the level of our people whether east or west of the durand line isn`t worth the paper the dollar is printed on (and FIAT currency is useless). This is the fundamental problem with Pashtuns...they enjoy throwing paighour at one another. Some here are talking about the takeover of dari, others are insulting Pashtuns on the other side of the Durand line. Well I want to remind some Pashtuns here, our backsides don`t really shine and we have a long way to go to even be considered to the level of third world countries. So how about you leave this type of useless politics alone about how Pashtun one side is or how pashtun the other is. It is useless, pretty soon both of them wont be Pashtun (we are barely considered Humans, so Pashto is what our elders `warrae khulaa ao ghatta khabaraa`)

Sher Khan is ignorant of politics he barely understands and a movement he just jumped onto a month or two ago. Need I remind people that among our brother sher khan`s first posts was a rap song dedicated to Pakistan. If some locals did peghour to Pashtuns of Afghanistan coming to Peshawar, well when the tough times come on them, they will have to rely on Afghanistan, and many are going there for jobs. So with ignorant people it is best to let them witness their own demise.
Like I said blaming the destruction is one sided, and then jumping the gun over what Sher Khan is a little too much.

I hope you all get my point. Manana

[MazloomYarMasud]

You guys are very double standard in my eyes.

We have Luffy,Sher Khana who are called and viewed as pro Pakistani but if one looks very carefully at what they say it is quite clear to us all, that they are not pro pakistani but pro Pashtun in the sense that they want a homeland for Pashtuns.

Then we have on the other side those who hate pakistan and support loy Afghanistan and they tell us Tajiks are our brothers and Tajiks are our friends etc and they tell us to go against Punjabis,Sindis and others, so what difference does it make?

Pashtuns need a homeland, and Luffy is right, we have witnessed our weakness in loving other languages than Pushto.

The durrani empire days are all gone, Pashtuns can not afford another wasteful civil war with these non pashtuns.

What makes me so angry is when Afghans say ohhh in Pakistan Pashtuns have adaopted urdu and married Punjabis etc, but the thing is, its no different than whats happening in Afghanistan, even more Pashtuns there have adaopted Dari and married Tajik women and vice versa.

Kind Regards

[BLS_1919v2.0]

You guys are very double standard in my eyes.

We have Luffy,Sher Khana who are called and viewed as pro Pakistani but if one looks very carefully at what they say it is quite clear to us all, that they are not pro pakistani but pro Pashtun in the sense that they want a homeland for Pashtuns.

Then we have on the other side those who hate pakistan and support loy Afghanistan and they tell us Tajiks are our brothers and Tajiks are our friends etc and they tell us to go against Punjabis,Sindis and others, so what difference does it make?

Pashtuns need a homeland, and Luffy is right, we have witnessed our weakness in loving other languages than Pushto.

The durrani empire days are all gone, Pashtuns can not afford another wasteful civil war with these non pashtuns.

What makes me so angry is when Afghans say ohhh in Pakistan Pashtuns have adaopted urdu and married Punjabis etc, but the thing is, its no different than whats happening in Afghanistan, even more Pashtuns there have adaopted Dari and married Tajik women and vice versa.

Kind Regards

It is not a double standard, there is just a difference. Fundamentally and politically.

And those Pashtuns who say people intermarry panjabis in Pashtunkhwa or speak urdu there don`t know what the hell they are talking about. It is pure ignorance on their part (just like some people here think 60 % of Afghanistan is non Pashtun). It is a made up fantasy to coax their egos.

[MazloomYarMasud]

You see this is what I mean

Afghans still suffer from this pride that they are the rulers of all Pashtuns when infact they are the Adopters of Farsi.

Speak about Afghans being the real leaders of Pashto hahahaha Pushto only become official not long ago!

The Number of times these Afghan Kings betrayed Pashtuns is hilerious! Even when the British Attacked Pashtuns, Why did the Afghan Army leave and run away?

When Northern Allaince raped Pashtun women where was these Kings of Pashto????

When Afghanistan sold out Pashtuns so their emir could get his Salary from the British where were the Afghans citizens protesting his decision? why didnt they object to it, why didnt they come to Pakhtunkhwa and join Hands?

You see, Afghanay aow Pakistanay ich farq nashta!

Both are States that are clearly Anti Pashtun.

Kind Regards

[MazloomYarMasud]

It is not a double standard, there is just a difference. Fundamentally and politically.

And those Pashtuns who say people intermarry panjabis in Pashtunkhwa or speak urdu there don`t know what the hell they are talking about. It is pure ignorance on their part (just like some people here think 60 % of Afghanistan is non Pashtun). It is a made up fantasy to coax their egos.

So you support that Pashtuns should bring back this Afghanisan, the same Afghanistan that has betrayed Pashtuns countless times, and you want to work to make it stronger so a Darizuban will rule over us?

There are already protests by Pashtuns in kabul about the educational boards discriminating against the language of Pushto.

These signs of discrimination dont bother or concern you?

Take Afghan-Soldiers views into consideration. He shown to us all what me,luffy,sher khana,nokia have been trying to say.

Afghansitan does not rule or represent Pashtuns as a whole.


Kind Regards

[BLS_1919v2.0]

You see this is what I mean

Afghans still suffer from this pride that they are the rulers of all Pashtuns when infact they are the Adopters of Farsi.

Speak about Afghans being the real leaders of Pashto hahahaha Pushto only become official not long ago!

The Number of times these Afghan Kings betrayed Pashtuns is hilerious! Even when the British Attacked Pashtuns, Why did the Afghan Army leave and run away?

When Northern Allaince raped Pashtun women where was these Kings of Pashto????

When Afghanistan sold out Pashtuns so their emir could get his Salary from the British where were the Afghans citizens protesting his decision? why didnt they object to it, why didnt they come to Pakhtunkhwa and join Hands?

You see, Afghanay aow Pakistanay ich farq nashta!

Both are States that are clearly Anti Pashtun.

Kind Regards

Who told you there weren`t people who were against the policies of Abdur Rahman? Hundreds if not thousands of Ghiljais were slaughtered at his hands. You think only Emir took salaries? Not only him, but many tribal elders were bribed as well. So many Afghan kings were traitors to their own..so what? Mullahs betrayed, nationalists betrayed, communists betrayed, etc? There are enough traitors across the board for Pashtuns, that really doesn`t prove or disprove anything, it just shows that `Pakhtun tank tha wodhraedae shee kho kaaldaarae tha na..`

[BLS_1919v2.0]

So you support that Pashtuns should bring back this Afghanisan, the same Afghanistan that has betrayed Pashtuns countless times, and you want to work to make it stronger so a Darizuban will rule over us?

There are already protests by Pashtuns in kabul about the educational boards discriminating against the language of Pushto.

These signs of discrimination dont bother or concern you?

Take Afghan-Soldiers views into consideration. He shown to us all what me,luffy,sher khana,nokia have been trying to say.

Afghansitan does not rule or represent Pashtuns as a whole.


Kind Regards

Now you are arguing in circles. I support Loy Afghanistan and I have explained my reasons. I never said nor supported this darizuban rule. I have already asked this question..where are these darizubaan thuryaalii ruling Pashtus? Where were they during Bache Saqao`s rule? Where were they in the 90s? Even today they are in the upper strata for a very simple reason (that people here ignore) there areas are peaceful and ours are at war. You can`t compare an area in peace and an area in war and then hold them up to fit such an argument. Everyone and their donkey knows to run Afghanistan you need Pashtun support, that is why policy towards the Pashtun dominated areas is shifting. There is a major difference in policy since the time of the Bonn Agreement and today.

[Afghan_Soldier]

doy dasai khalak dei che afghanistan pa khob ham na ee ledali aw khabari kawei chei afghanistan dasai dai aw haghasai dai... doy afghanistan pa bara kei tsa pahegi... yawazi hagha shay che pakistan media warta khaayee ham agha worta rikhtya malomeegi... dagha khalak dei che kha sam 'pakistani brainwashed' sawi dei... daghasi che pakistan ghoshti che afghanistan tota tota sei daghasi doy ham ghwarri.....

may Allah never bring a day upon us that we see afghanistan in two or three pieces... May Allah swt protect our land, our honor... tol khalak ba por mong bandai wokhandi ka daa kaar woshei... Khudai de hes kala da wakht ra nawrri ameen!...

Khoree, I could care any less. Dwe hasi khabaroo ta tayar dee. 2 myashtee kejee che da noom khawadan swal kho munga che badshayana teera karee "Afghan"-istan larro hagha hum rabandi noor hum wranway. Dwee naran see aw mujha ta dee hagha wraz ra wooshawai che las panjabian yee da Pakhtunistan pa nama wazhalee wee aw ye laas mareee warkarree wee!

Kala che Daud Khan ghwashta che Bajour annex krreee no humda khalak woo cheee zmojha army sara jangeedal - Panjabay nawooo!

Daud Khan's Pashtunistan policy has brought Afghanistan to where it is. Yet these people are not happy that we destroyed our country for their sake, they want to us to further divide che mojha hum dwe ghondi be nooma aw be neshana wooo! By the way this is not a general reference but the specific people. I love my people in Pashtunkhwa and by god will not spare anything in my power to serve them in any way I could.

[Afghan_Soldier]

That is unfair to take that type of peghour on Pashtunkhwa people and say it will take a 100 years to reach the level of people west of the durand line. What level to be honest is that of a Pashtun? Lets be honest wror the level of our people whether east or west of the durand line isn`t worth the paper the dollar is printed on (and FIAT currency is useless). This is the fundamental problem with Pashtuns...they enjoy throwing paighour at one another. Some here are talking about the takeover of dari, others are insulting Pashtuns on the other side of the Durand line. Well I want to remind some Pashtuns here, our backsides don`t really shine and we have a long way to go to even be considered to the level of third world countries. So how about you leave this type of useless politics alone about how Pashtun one side is or how pashtun the other is. It is useless, pretty soon both of them wont be Pashtun (we are barely considered Humans, so Pashto is what our elders `warrae khulaa ao ghatta khabaraa`)

Sher Khan is ignorant of politics he barely understands and a movement he just jumped onto a month or two ago. Need I remind people that among our brother sher khan`s first posts was a rap song dedicated to Pakistan. If some locals did peghour to Pashtuns of Afghanistan coming to Peshawar, well when the tough times come on them, they will have to rely on Afghanistan, and many are going there for jobs. So with ignorant people it is best to let them witness their own demise.
Like I said blaming the destruction is one sided, and then jumping the gun over what Sher Khan is a little too much.

I hope you all get my point. Manana

BLS wrora,

I mean it and I still stand by my words, this is in reference to the particular people who is picking on Afghanistan. Politically and culturaly Pashtunkhwa is no much for Afghanistan and the Pashtuns there and you know it! I am no fond of netgativity and piss matching, but when people don't understan intelligent language then you need to put it to them crudely. The thing is these people who try to demonise Afghanistan are in reality either extremely stupid or are the leashed pups of Panjabis and are the proud Paakiz. They have ulterior motives. They know the longer Afghanistan remains intact and powerful the closer we all Pashtuns are to reach our dream goals.

Forget about SherKhan and his other Paakiz, I am extermely dissappointed with those are meant to be patriotic, but are yet delusional, naive and extremely emotional which is hopeless.

[Afghan_Soldier]

What makes me so angry is when Afghans say ohhh in Pakistan Pashtuns have adaopted urdu and married Punjabis etc, but the thing is, its no different than whats happening in Afghanistan, even more Pashtuns there have adaopted Dari and married Tajik women and vice versa.

Kind Regards

The difference is massive and clear. Afghanistan is a Pashtun dominated country and Pakistan isn't. This exactly tells me your lack of true knowledge or you're either saying these out of certain emotional factors. No doubt that some people have adopted Dari in certain Dari dominated areas, but they are not even 5%. Pashtu is our national language, and we are making it flourish at any level possible, we are on track. You need come with me to Afghanistan when you are free so I can take you around, zrraaa ba dee bagh bagh see Maseeda!

[Afghan_Soldier]

So you support that Pashtuns should bring back this Afghanisan, the same Afghanistan that has betrayed Pashtuns countless times, and you want to work to make it stronger so a Darizuban will rule over us?

There are already protests by Pashtuns in kabul about the educational boards discriminating against the language of Pushto.

These signs of discrimination dont bother or concern you?

Take Afghan-Soldiers views into consideration. He shown to us all what me,luffy,sher khana,nokia have been trying to say.

Afghansitan does not rule or represent Pashtuns as a whole.


Kind Regards

Betrayed how? Which Darizuban Maseeda?lol Which protest Maseed Sahiba, which educational board?lol Farooq Wardak is a family fiend who is the education minister. I have relatives who are on top post in the ministry of education. There is no descrimination and everything kushty for Pashutns!

My which view to you, huh? What are talking about Maseeda? Andiwala since when did you start defending known Paakiz like Luffy (what a typical **** name lol) and pussycatkhan? Hmmmm you are being brainwashed by them.. I know.

[khyaal]

You guys are very double standard in my eyes.

We have Luffy,Sher Khana who are called and viewed as pro Pakistani but if one looks very carefully at what they say it is quite clear to us all, that they are not pro pakistani but pro Pashtun in the sense that they want a homeland for Pashtuns.

Then we have on the other side those who hate pakistan and support loy Afghanistan and they tell us Tajiks are our brothers and Tajiks are our friends etc and they tell us to go against Punjabis,Sindis and others, so what difference does it make?

Pashtuns need a homeland, and Luffy is right, we have witnessed our weakness in loving other languages than Pushto.

The durrani empire days are all gone, Pashtuns can not afford another wasteful civil war with these non pashtuns.

What makes me so angry is when Afghans say ohhh in Pakistan Pashtuns have adaopted urdu and married Punjabis etc, but the thing is, its no different than whats happening in Afghanistan, even more Pashtuns there have adaopted Dari and married Tajik women and vice versa.

Kind Regards

Do you know what these Azad Qabail land is called in Pakistan? This land of Central Pakhtunkhwa is called as "ALAQA GHAIR", i.e., LAND OF THE ALIENS. This is their status in Pakistan.

In Peshawar and other areas inside Pakistan your accent is ridiculed and that is why when people of your area come to Peshawar they feel very diffident and try to change their very accent. They are treated like Berbers or wild animals everywhere in Pakistan.

[Shayesta]

Thank goodness for banning Mazloom! Now I don't have to bother replying the same answer for his same repeated crap!