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  • #16
    You have a very narrow definition of dawah. Besides, you ignore the fact that prominent Muslim scholars of Egypt rejected Islamists like Ikhwanis and Salafis. Shaykh Ahmed Naqeeb and Mustafa al Adawi both refuted Ikhwanis and Salafis and labeled their democratic Islamism as baatil.

    You can't just ignore all the criticism against them and just stick to Ikhwani propaganda by stating extremist leftists were against them.

    And let me remind you, Mursi claimed he can achieve something which is not possible: bringing back Sharia through ballot box.

    Once he was in office he said Hijab is not from Sharia and he his party said we are not going to ban bars and brothels. Many Egyptians felt deceived.

    He also borrowed money from Western banks for which he agreed to pay ridiculously high interest which is usury on massive scale.

    I can go on and on mentioning everything he did.

    I don't understand why Islamists can always get a free pass no matter what they do. As long as they claim they are Islamists, people just accept anything without any criticism.
    Originally posted by Firdousi
    Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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    • #17
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      Originally posted by Shamlawar Khurasani View Post
      You have a very narrow definition of dawah. Besides, you ignore the fact that prominent Muslim scholars of Egypt rejected Islamists like Ikhwanis and Salafis. Shaykh Ahmed Naqeeb and Mustafa al Adawi both refuted Ikhwanis and Salafis and labeled their democratic Islamism as baatil.

      If they rejected Sisi like they did the Ikhwan, they would be in prison now
      You can't just ignore all the criticism against them and just stick to Ikhwani propaganda by stating extremist leftists were against them.

      The criticism was mostly leveled at them by not being able to economically change the condition of the people. Like I have said, the state institutions were still in the hands of Mubarak loyalists and you cannot reverse that in a few months unless there is bloodshed

      http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/11/wo...orsi.html?_r=0
      And let me remind you, Mursi claimed he can achieve something which is not possible: bringing back Sharia through ballot box.

      Once he was in office he said Hijab is not from Sharia and he his party said we are not going to ban bars and brothels. Many Egyptians felt deceived.

      He also borrowed money from Western banks for which he agreed to pay ridiculously high interest which is usury on massive scale.

      I can go on and on mentioning everything he did.

      I don't understand why Islamists can always get a free pass no matter what they do. As long as they claim they are Islamists, people just accept anything without any criticism.
      You ignore that there is a gradual process and while Syed Qutub sounds great in practice, the people will rebel if Shariah is implemented at once. How do you turn tens of millions of Egyptians back to Islam when all they have known is lackadaisical Islam through family and legal secularism?
      There are people today who think that admitting God’s absolute greatness decreases the value and importance of humans in the creation, as if God and mankind are rivals competing in greatness and power. Meanwhile I feel that whenever our perception of God’s greatness increases, with it we become greater, because we are the creation of a great God.

      Sayyid Qutb

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