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  • #91
    Originally posted by DaZahroJaam. View Post
    you will never be able to treat me any worse than you already have. you may have a bad memory, i don't. as for which part of my behavior is "ladylike" and which part, not, we are beyond that point.
    when you can't humiliate, bully and harass someone in to walking away and shutting up about their beliefs, you pet them until they feel obliged to pleasing you. i have no interest in proving myself virtuous to you or anyone else out there. in a society where the most esteemed walk around with consciences as dead as yours, there is no room for one to fit in their self respect as well as the respect of society. and between the two, i will always choose my freedom and self respect. regardless of the price it may come with.
    To be fair - you were picking on a 16 year old girl and making fun of her skin color.

    But I understand - this frenemy relationship is new to me too. It takes some getting used to. And the post neauvo feminist "I will not conform to your idea of lady like" is sorta cliche. I'm sure even Betty Freiden would think the war porn you seem to have a large trove of is a little odd.

    And it's not about my conscience it's simply that your ideas and grasp of history as well as you limited understanding of war and what sustains it are like at short school bus level.
    "2 crackheads don't become any better or stronger by sharing the same crack pipe." - Greatest PF quote

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    • #92
      wont bother putting shoes in the feet of a child but don't have trouble handing over an ak 47, ammunition vest as well as a shoulder missile in his hands. THESE ARE THE PEOPLE THAT WILL TAKE AFGHANISTAN THROUGH GLORIOUS TIMES IN HISTORY.





      "To burn always with this hard gemlike flame, to maintain this ecstasy, is success in life."





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      • #93
        Originally posted by DaZahroJaam. View Post
        wont bother putting shoes in the feet of a child but don't have trouble handing over an ak 47, ammunition vest as well as a shoulder missile in his hands. THESE ARE THE PEOPLE THAT WILL TAKE AFGHANISTAN THROUGH GLORIOUS TIMES IN HISTORY.




        This is why I like you frenemy. You make this so much more enjoyable.
        So this appears to be the argument/principle?/or bait and switch you are offering up:

        Everyone look away from the pedophile Karzai,Ghani, and my parsizubaan homeboys put in power - i.e. the ones that are taking a different sort of gun, a d-ick, and doing a whole lot more to a kid than handing it to him. In fact, they are sexually abusing him - and look at this facebook friend pic one of my equally retarded friends found. Guns = bad! Pedophilia no bad. Guns = bad!

        The reality is historically, even in the most forward and powerful nations of this era, their civil war/revolutionary founding war era was frought with the use of child soldiers:

        Ten years old when he ran away from home and joined the second Michigan Regiment, the drummer boy won fame at the battle of Shiloh, where he put down his drum, picked up a gun, and shot a Confederate colonel. All across the Union, Clem was celebrated as a hero. But Johnny Clem wasn't the only young person to be affected by the Civil War. In fact, it would be hard to find a kid that wasn't. When war broke out in 1861, kids across the North and the South said goodbye to their fathers, brothers, uncles, and cousins -- or joined the military themselves. As many as 20% of Civil War soldiers were younger than 18. That was the minimum recruiting age for Union soldiers, but many people willingly overlooked the law. The Confederacy set no minimum age. Many young soldiers enlisted as musicians -- drummers, fifers, or buglers. In theory, musicians didn't fight. But once a battle began, these kids often armed themselves -- to save their own lives or the lives of their friends.
        http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexpe...le/grant-kids/

        So now with that retarded argument easily dispatched and dismissed, lets turn to what you are really trying to play coy about.

        Here is a niiiiice video of your kaka Jan Mohammad Khan, Karzai's best butt buddy:

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBgKESihib8

        Start in at 5 min and 17 seconds and the action picks up at 6 min 25 sec in this documentary where your hero Jan Muhammad says to this boy, and I quote:

        "I will rub my pen-is on your head."
        Then he goes on to tell the American commander to release the boy to his care so that he can keep Jan Muhammad and his men "entertrained for a few nights."

        LOOOOOOL. So my frenemy, your adversaries appear to offer up guns to barefoot boys to free their nation from the stranglehold of dogwashers like you who are good for nothing...

        But your team (aka Karzai, Ghani, Kabul) are offering them another type of gun, the type that spread venereal diseases and is used for preverted purposes - i.e. they are offering them a loaded phallus to be molested with.

        Nice try DZJster!

        Throw out another Khamaa, Tolo, Facebook friend clay pigeon for me to bring down dearie.
        "2 crackheads don't become any better or stronger by sharing the same crack pipe." - Greatest PF quote

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        • #94
          For those of you who are coming in late to the argument, here is Jan Mohammad Khan, a former admitted pedophile who was a janitor in the 1980s and who saved Karzai's life at some point - resulting in Karzai and him blossoming some sort of strange, twisted (? homosexual) relationship:
          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jan_Mohammad_Khan

          Jan Mohammad was in jail in Kandahar in the 1990s for crimes he claimed were insurrection against the Taliban emerite, but which Anand Gopal and others note was related to his odd pedophilic predilictions.

          Karzai actually appointed him to powerful positions and even eventually bought him to Kabul when Jan Muhammad's perversions strated to create problems in Helmand.

          Eventually, Jan Mohammad got blasted into whatever afterlife awaits him - and pretty much no one but Karzai shed a tear (he literally shed tears). It was almost like this scene out of Braveheart:

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HF3R6K-HJx8

          Start at 1 min 6 sec and watch as the Jan Mohammd equivalent (Karzai is like the prissy ?gay prince) gets launched out a window
          "2 crackheads don't become any better or stronger by sharing the same crack pipe." - Greatest PF quote

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          • #95
            Originally posted by BarakzaiAbdali View Post
            This is why I like you frenemy. You make this so much more enjoyable.
            So this appears to be the argument/principle?/or bait and switch you are offering up:

            Everyone look away from the pedophile Karzai,Ghani, and my parsizubaan homeboys put in power - i.e. the ones that are taking a different sort of gun, a d-ick, and doing a whole lot more to a kid than handing it to him. In fact, they are sexually abusing him - and look at this facebook friend pic one of my equally retarded friends found. Guns = bad! Pedophilia no bad. Guns = bad!

            The reality is historically, even in the most forward and powerful nations of this era, their civil war/revolutionary founding war era was frought with the use of child soldiers:



            http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexpe...le/grant-kids/

            So now with that retarded argument easily dispatched and dismissed, lets turn to what you are really trying to play coy about.

            Here is a niiiiice video of your kaka Jan Mohammad Khan, Karzai's best butt buddy:

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBgKESihib8

            Start in at 5 min and 17 seconds and the action picks up at 6 min 25 sec in this documentary where your hero Jan Muhammad says to this boy, and I quote:



            Then he goes on to tell the American commander to release the boy to his care so that he can keep Jan Muhammad and his men "entertrained for a few nights."

            LOOOOOOL. So my frenemy, your adversaries appear to offer up guns to barefoot boys to free their nation from the stranglehold of dogwashers like you who are good for nothing...

            But your team (aka Karzai, Ghani, Kabul) are offering them another type of gun, the type that spread venereal diseases and is used for preverted purposes - i.e. they are offering them a loaded phallus to be molested with.

            Nice try DZJster!

            Throw out another Khamaa, Tolo, Facebook friend clay pigeon for me to bring down dearie.
            that is probably true. what you say about the abuse he has had to suffer from and whatnot. no child of his age lands where he is out of free will or boredom. but does that justify handing over a gun to a traumatized, helpless and vulnerable child like that?? is that the answer to his miseries??

            you are a doctor yourself. do you send your patients on suicide missions?? is that how you fix a problem?? is that how you were trained to deal with victims of sexual assault?? hand them weapons and let them out in the streets to go and murder those responsible as well as whoever else happens to be a bystander?? is that the education that is paying for the well being of your children in the west today??

            i don't think so.


            when you can't bribe you with money or power, they will use your vulnerability and helplessness to get what they want from you.

            sick people commit such crimes because they are sick. people like you.. you know very well what you are doing. but instead of helping victims like him, you would rather use them. your solution to their problem is sending them off with bare feet and empty stomachs to fight like dogs in the streets. BECAUSE THAT IS HOW FREEDOM IS SOUGHT FOR, THAT IS THE WAY TO GET THEM JUSTICE AND MAKE SURE THAT NOTHING OF THIS NATURE EVER HAPPENS TO THEM AGAIN.



            i wont even comment on why you refer to half of the afghan population as my boyfriends. holding you accountable for that level of decency would simply be a fault in me. you just pray that you don't ever find yourself in my mercy.

            "To burn always with this hard gemlike flame, to maintain this ecstasy, is success in life."





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            • #96
              Originally posted by DaZahroJaam. View Post
              that is probably true. what you say about the abuse he has had to suffer from and whatnot. no child of his age lands where he is out of free will or boredom. but does that justify handing over a gun to a traumatized, helpless and vulnerable child like that?? is that the answer to his miseries??

              This is the essential problem - you hold the side you like to subpar ideals (i.e. - Hamid can just about do anything he wants short of kicking a puppy to death on video) and you let the Kabuli bas-tards off the hook. But a bunch of rural, generally illiterate boys and men who are living teh tribal traditions of their forefathers who fougth in the same way and with the same ferocity, offering up the same children 100+ years ago for Amanullah's wars are held to some higher level standard by you.

              So what it boils down to is simply what I have been alleging: "I DZJ like one group and dont like the other - so the evidence nor historical fact will inform my opinion - my opinion will inform my opinion."

              you are a doctor yourself. do you send your patients on suicide missions?? is that how you fix a problem??

              I have told you repeatedly, I see, to understand the dimensions of a conflict. I know why Shiites fight, why sunnis fight, why crusaders fight, why jahils fight, why Putin fights, why Bush fights, why DZJ fights etc and thats it.

              If the whole nation tomorrow decides they want to create a religion called Karzaiism or DJZism where the statement of faith is: There is no fool but Karzai and DZJ is his proponent - and then they all sing hymns and submit - more power to them. If not, more power to them.

              The fix to the problem is to UNDERSTAND, based on data and evidence and history WHY PEOPLE FIGHT AND CONTINUE TO FIGHT.

              Through that moral prism what it amounts to is that there are people that are indigenous and have a way of life and another group of people that are infringing on that way of life by force. That former group of people, according to most moral paradigms has the higher ground.

              is that how you were trained to deal with victims of sexual assault?? hand them weapons and let them out in the streets to go and murder those responsible as well as whoever else happens to be a bystander?? is that the education that is paying for the well being of your children in the west today??

              First of all, that kid in that picture may or may not have been molested. That was not the allegation I was making or not making. I was discussing your basic argument which boiled down to: See Taliban give people guns!!! Why look how horrible this kid has a gun!!!! Ergo, the Talibs are BAD and KARZAI and KABULI rughead governmental officials are ANGELS. I, DZJ will ignore eons of human history and undereveloped national development in a country where the marriage age still remains below 20 on average and and the life expectancy only recently (in urban centers) went above 50.

              i don't think so.

              I told you, I don't impose my way of life onto others at the barrell end of the gun. That is YOUR job and what you are attempting to do with Harper leading the way.

              Take a moment to sit, relax, and take a deep breath. Reflect on everything you have been advocating for. Do you even possess the ability to criticize your own viewpoint or at least subject it to an evidence based self initiated assault to ensure it stands the basic tests of time, history, evidence, and reality? Are you even capable of self reflection?

              I doubt it. Instead, you are just parroting the lines handed down to you from a prior generation and using emotionalism to promote views that wont end a war, but will certainly fuel it.

              when you can't bribe you with money or power, they will use your vulnerability and helplessness to get what they want from you.

              Oh you mean like how Hamid accepts bags of cash to this day from Iran and the CIA? Where is his vulnerability?

              Or for that matter, what of the Pashtun girls in the north whose rapes were documented when Dostum (your BELOVED vice president of this bizarro, sick depraved clown show) and his goons rolled over the shamali region where Ishaqzai families roam?

              sick people commit such crimes because they are sick. people like you.. you know very well what you are doing. but instead of helping victims like him, you would rather use them.

              Nice. Emotional black mail, LOL. So Jan Mohammad gets the excuse from DZJ "hes sick" Those ALP and ANP commanders that the Americans tried to report "They're sick" But people doing what even American rebels did when their nation was underdeveloped (i.e. have young able bodied soldiers) are "committing crimes"

              What sort of warped moral non reality do you reside in?

              Pedophiles get off in DZJistan because they are "sick" but men and boys who fight against an occupying government sent by Harper and Bush are "depraved" and criminals for doing what Wallace did, what Washington did, what Tipu Sultan did, what Che Guevara did, what Pancho Villa did etc etc, what Tecumseh did, what Metacom did.

              Thats an odd sense of justice you exhibit there. As I said it boils down to:

              "Because I am a big baby, and I never grew up to challenge the views I was passed on - I just defend the bull-sh-it my friends post on their facebook and that my family believes because I am emotional illogical person."



              your solution to their problem is sending them off with bare feet and empty stomachs to fight like dogs in the streets. BECAUSE THAT IS HOW FREEDOM IS SOUGHT FOR, THAT IS THE WAY TO GET THEM JUSTICE AND MAKE SURE THAT NOTHING OF THIS NATURE EVER HAPPENS TO THEM AGAIN.

              That isnt a decision I made or a position that I advocate. I advocate the Prophet's viewpoint on it which is that children should not be used in war. I told you clearly that there appear to be two sets of retards fighting this war:

              Your retard dogs (he of the green cape and his bosom buddies) who appear to be inept, corrupt, pedophiles who screwed up Afghanistan so bad that Afghans looked to the second group simply for stability

              The second group: Literalist illiterates, sometimes random folks with vandettas (tribal and otherwise) whose cardinal sin was being born in a country that is prime realestate for militaries wanting to dominate a region and who decided that your retard dogs were trying to use a bunch of foreign thugs named Steve, Tom, Bill, and Jon Kerry to impose a way of life on them that is contrary to what their autonomous nature would align with. So they decided to do with tribes, peoples, etc across the world and history have done since time immemorial and fight.

              i wont even comment on why you refer to half of the afghan population as my boyfriends.

              Give me a break. You know I dont mean it that way. Even though as a feminist you would take it the wrong way, I am sure you are a nice girl that maintains her dignity and honor. That being said, your reasoning and logic as it pertains to the subject at hand is idiotic, misinformed, and lacks any critical thinking.

              holding you accountable for that level of decency would simply be a fault in me. you just pray that you don't ever find yourself in my mercy.

              I missed this side of you- its been a long time since you leveled a nice threat at me. But dont go and think that means anything other than I am upholding the standards of being your frenemy. I prefer this side to finding out that you gave your phone number and contact out. I would strongly advise you to not hand our your digits to random people on the net.

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              • #97
                Originally posted by DaZahroJaam. View Post
                that is probably true. what you say about the abuse he has had to suffer from and whatnot. no child of his age lands where he is out of free will or boredom. but does that justify handing over a gun to a traumatized, helpless and vulnerable child like that?? is that the answer to his miseries??

                you are a doctor yourself. do you send your patients on suicide missions?? is that how you fix a problem?? is that how you were trained to deal with victims of sexual assault?? hand them weapons and let them out in the streets to go and murder those responsible as well as whoever else happens to be a bystander?? is that the education that is paying for the well being of your children in the west today??

                i don't think so.


                when you can't bribe you with money or power, they will use your vulnerability and helplessness to get what they want from you.

                sick people commit such crimes because they are sick. people like you.. you know very well what you are doing. but instead of helping victims like him, you would rather use them. your solution to their problem is sending them off with bare feet and empty stomachs to fight like dogs in the streets. BECAUSE THAT IS HOW FREEDOM IS SOUGHT FOR, THAT IS THE WAY TO GET THEM JUSTICE AND MAKE SURE THAT NOTHING OF THIS NATURE EVER HAPPENS TO THEM AGAIN.



                i wont even comment on why you refer to half of the afghan population as my boyfriends. holding you accountable for that level of decency would simply be a fault in me. you just pray that you don't ever find yourself in my mercy.
                And to be fair, I did not say boyfriend. Go look back at what I wrote, it says "homeboy"

                Which in the parlance or idiom of the street and the dialect of the poet of the hood, Tupac, is a synonym for friend.

                If I had called them (Karzai, ANP, ALP) your "boo" that would have implied the sort of illicit relationship you claim I accused you of.

                I must admit though, I am not completely literate in thugspeak, but urban dictionary defines homeboy as:

                one of your peeps -- a good friend. derived from the spanish ''homebre''


                http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=homeboy

                Definition for "Boo" in the urban dictionary:

                http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=boo

                boyfriend
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                • #98
                  Yeah "dzj", before you threaten someone, kindly be adviced that your personal information is out there. That would be a very silly situation to put yourself in.
                  Very good advice. I am shuddering in fear as I type. I would like to see which one of you dares to dig your own grave this time.

                  "To burn always with this hard gemlike flame, to maintain this ecstasy, is success in life."





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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by DaZahroJaam. View Post
                    Yeah "dzj", before you threaten someone, kindly be adviced that your personal information is out there.

                    You are being paranoid. That is not what I meant. Why do you insist on wantonly threatening yourself ?

                    I just was disappointed that you were weaker than I presumed and divulged it. That's not the careful, methodical, and threateningly lethal frenemy I thought I knew.



                    That would be a very silly situation to put yourself in.

                    Lol. Calm down. I have not nor will I contact anyone anytime anyplace for your information. I prefer this tete a tete to remain what it is. I wont remove your mask Batman. The written word shows me as much as I need to see my PF frenemy.

                    Very good advice. I am shuddering in fear as I type. I would like to see which one of you dares to dig your own grave this time.

                    The shuddering might be a seizure prodrome. Have you actually dug a grave? Its a lot of hard work (and no thats not a threat - I went to a janazaa and the Metabolic equivalents is tremendous. I thought the show Dexter was far less realistic after that experience).

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                    • go be an ******* somewhere else. You will never win this one.

                      "To burn always with this hard gemlike flame, to maintain this ecstasy, is success in life."





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                      • Originally posted by DaZahroJaam.
                        go be an ******* somewhere else.
                        Thats not how being a good frenemy works. Its a heavy burden. Dont you think I yearn for the simpler times when you were more vicious? But our response rates are not amenable to the pakhwaa zamaanaa/pekhwaa dur model. I don't know why you are mad. I am the one that should be mad. This is a lop sided set up. I get next to nothing from you except irrational logic and ahistorical thinking steeped in facebook warporn posts.
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