Question for Pakistani nationalists

[tilla_jogian]

Let me guess. That was supposed to be an insult.. Is there anything that you ****ers are good at??
Afghan refugees are in Pakistan because of the conditions in Afghanistan. Conditions that have been imposed by Pakistan. They are there because they have no other choice. Why are you roaming around in this forum??

Brother you misunderstood me, you have been refugee and you know Pakistanis love afghani brothers. Watch here experience of afghanis youngsters in Pakistan.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZlG4aLf1UI

[DaZahroJaam.]

My dislike of you is not based on your pakistaniness but the blind nationalism that you carry with you in so much pride. It would be the same if not more even if you were an afghan.
You don't have my attention, don't waste your time.

[ManSindhiAhyan]

When it comes to Afghanistan, nobody talks about how Daoud Khan invaded bajaur and started a ruckus. This prompted Ayub Khan to close the border and break ties with Afghanistan which caused the economy of Afghanistan to completely collapse.

The following years which were filled with chaos and confusion among the ruling elite paved the way for the communist revolution. We all know what happens next however.

Honestly this event between Daoud Khan and Ayub Khan was what steered Afghanistan to ruin. That's why its not fair to blame Pakistan for all of the wrongs.

[marwat]

Mukhti bahini creation by RAW triggered the proxy war in south asia,we your country started it not Pakistan.

We don't care what the world think about us,Even the whole world combined can do nothing against us,we are protected by Allah.

Our only goal is the safety of Muslim world.

Find me one of my post where i have supported terrorists though i can find a post of your where you said that Afghan taliban are mujahideen and not terrorist.

Do you know why i don't consider toramana as human?because he's a double face person and i have come to the conclusion that your his direct cousin

your supposed Allah was drunk in 1971 or what?

[Bengal_Tiger]

Since there are few Pakistanis nationalists here, why does the Pakistani establishment support terrorism? What does Pakistan and Pakistanis gain out of it? Lets be honest you can't win Kashmir, because India is too strong, nor can you take Afghanistan any more, so what is the point? Why are known terrorists walking freely in the country?

I don't really want to focus on Bangladesh as that wasn't your original question suffice to say that Bengalis (majority of Pakistan) were oppressed and then the Pakistan military launched a bloodbath against them far worse than what Assad is doing in Syria and then Mukti Bahini freedom fighters defeated the traitor Pakistan army and now we are a free and independent country, Alhamdulilah.

why does the Pakistani establishment support terrorism?

Because they cannot engage in a full frontal conventional war with the much more powerful Indian army which has already defeated them a couple of times, so instead they rely on army-backed irregulars or "Islamists" to strike India, or damage Afghanistan or to rule it on their behalf.

What does Pakistan and Pakistanis gain out of it?

Not much.

But who cares, the country is ruled by the army which is run by Punjabi generals. There may be Mohajir/Pathan figureheads at the top but the upper corps are dominated by Punjabis and Pakistani military studies itself teaches that Punjab is the core, the nucleus of the country which if it fell the country would collapse.

Pakistan is not ruled for the benefit of the masses but for the benefit of the army, which is itself the largest employer in Punjab with a standing army of 0.6 million not to mention reserves.

In a poor country the Pakistan army is a major employer (probably the biggest in the country).

Ultimately if America wanted to, they could lean on the Pakistan army to hand over real power to civilians.

They don't because America is happy to see a military-run Pakistan and thus perpetual conflict between India and Pakistan, two brown countries fighting each other.

Lets be honest you can't win Kashmir, because India is too strong, nor can you take Afghanistan any more, so what is the point?

India needs to be an enemy.

If peace is made then there is no need for such a big army.

The Pakistan army (which has lots of businesses and is full of corruption, even the previous military supremo, Kiyani is now being investigated for corruption) would lose massively if there was peace with India and its role reduced.

Plus to be honest Pakistanis Punjabis have a big ego, which needs to be fed. In the absence of any real meaningful achievements they need something to boast about, hence their constant boasting about their army and their incessant boasting about their nuclear bomb (which will never be used).

Lets be honest you can't win Kashmir, because India is too strong, nor can you take Afghanistan any more, so what is the point?

Because the Pakistan army is allowed to rule the country by America and basically encouraged to keep the region in perpetual conflict for the benefit of white western powers, another game/adventure of theirs is their "Afghan adventure".

The well-fed, rich, pampered Punjabi generals of Rawalpindi believe they are playing a game of chess with their Indian counterparts.

South Asia is a chessboard and Afghanistan is part of that. Pakistan's "western flank" must be kept under Pakistani influence, hence support for the "Islamist" and to a degree ethno-centric (Pakhtun) Taliban.

Who cares about Afghans and whether they are happy or die, what is more important is feeling good against Indian politicians, generals and diplomats.

The "Muslim" rhetoric is useful for a nationalistic and somewhat cruel, bloodthirsty domestic audience, for motivating cannon fodder and for exploiting wealthy Arab regimes, "Islamist" organizations and others, BUT
actually making life better for Muslims from Afghanistan is irrelevant.

Rhetoric is what counts.


Summary

The US has huge influence over Pakistan and actively allows it to rule the country and destabilize the region thus causing permanent tension in the region. The lack of trade between India and Pakistan harms Pakistan. India is racing ahead economically while Pakistan goes from one disaster to another.



First head of the Pakistan army, Frank Messervy, a white Anglo-Saxon.



First governor of Pakistan's largest province and de facto power centre, Punjab, Francis Mudie, a white Anglo-Saxon.



Arthur Mcdonald head of the Pakistan air force when it ceased being the "Royal Pakistan Air Force" and became the Pakistan Air Force.

A white Anglo-Saxon.



The ISI, founded by Robert Cawthorne, a white Anglo-Saxon.



Pakistan was established by Anglo-Saxon powers to be a "Muslim" Israel and to destabilize the region.

The Kashmir issue was left deliberately unsolved by the British to remain a permanent flash-point between India and Pakistan, i.e. white imperialist divide and rule.

The borders of India and Pakistan were deliberately made awkward as possible for both sides especially in the eastern wing (now Bangladesh).


The Sigiluri corridor



The Sigiluri corridor is a tiny slither of land that connects India's north-east region with the rest of mainland India.

In any war, the then Pakistan and now Bangladesh could have easily disconnected it.

The Bangladeshi military calls this land the "chicken's neck".






Feni

However the British made sure that the then Pakistan, now Bangladesh also had a similar problem in terms of Feni, a small piece of land that connects Chittagong in the south-east to the rest of the country.





Feni marked in red.



Pakistan is merely acting out the function for which it was created i.e. to be a Punjabi "Muslim" Israel that would destabilize the whole region.

Islamic scholars and saints (awliya) of India forewarned of the tragedy and catastrophe that would occur in the future due to the creation of Pakistan and now we are seeing their wise words vindicated.

[rednwhite99]

What occupied land you idiot moron, it was all bengali land.

dalay teray india main kashmir ki baat kar ra hay ,, kalay mahajar which i m sure tu koi dalit ki nasal se hay

[rednwhite99]

How so? apna land to pehlay sambal, woh bhi teri haat se nikal ra hai slowly slowly

jb nikal jaye to baat karna,, why ur indian ass is so worried abt pakistan,, hmm inferiority complex maybe pakis dont accept u as pakis us ki aag to nai lagy kahein ,,

[rednwhite99]

I don't really want to focus on Bangladesh as that wasn't your original question suffice to say that Bengalis (majority of Pakistan) were oppressed and then the Pakistan military launched a bloodbath against them far worse than what Assad is doing in Syria and then Mukti Bahini freedom fighters defeated the traitor Pakistan army and now we are a free and independent country, Alhamdulilah.



Because they cannot engage in a full frontal conventional war with the much more powerful Indian army which has already defeated them a couple of times, so instead they rely on army-backed irregulars or "Islamists" to strike India, or damage Afghanistan or to rule it on their behalf.



Not much.

But who cares, the country is ruled by the army which is run by Punjabi generals. There may be Mohajir/Pathan figureheads at the top but the upper corps are dominated by Punjabis and Pakistani military studies itself teaches that Punjab is the core, the nucleus of the country which if it fell the country would collapse.

Pakistan is not ruled for the benefit of the masses but for the benefit of the army, which is itself the largest employer in Punjab with a standing army of 0.6 million not to mention reserves.

In a poor country the Pakistan army is a major employer (probably the biggest in the country).

Ultimately if America wanted to, they could lean on the Pakistan army to hand over real power to civilians.

They don't because America is happy to see a military-run Pakistan and thus perpetual conflict between India and Pakistan, two brown countries fighting each other.



India needs to be an enemy.

If peace is made then there is no need for such a big army.

The Pakistan army (which has lots of businesses and is full of corruption, even the previous military supremo, Kiyani is now being investigated for corruption) would lose massively if there was peace with India and its role reduced.

Plus to be honest Pakistanis Punjabis have a big ego, which needs to be fed. In the absence of any real meaningful achievements they need something to boast about, hence their constant boasting about their army and their incessant boasting about their nuclear bomb (which will never be used).



Because the Pakistan army is allowed to rule the country by America and basically encouraged to keep the region in perpetual conflict for the benefit of white western powers, another game/adventure of theirs is their "Afghan adventure".

The well-fed, rich, pampered Punjabi generals of Rawalpindi believe they are playing a game of chess with their Indian counterparts.

South Asia is a chessboard and Afghanistan is part of that. Pakistan's "western flank" must be kept under Pakistani influence, hence support for the "Islamist" and to a degree ethno-centric (Pakhtun) Taliban.

Who cares about Afghans and whether they are happy or die, what is more important is feeling good against Indian politicians, generals and diplomats.

The "Muslim" rhetoric is useful for a nationalistic and somewhat cruel, bloodthirsty domestic audience, for motivating cannon fodder and for exploiting wealthy Arab regimes, "Islamist" organizations and others, BUT
actually making life better for Muslims from Afghanistan is irrelevant.

Rhetoric is what counts.


Summary

The US has huge influence over Pakistan and actively allows it to rule the country and destabilize the region thus causing permanent tension in the region. The lack of trade between India and Pakistan harms Pakistan. India is racing ahead economically while Pakistan goes from one disaster to another.



First head of the Pakistan army, Frank Messervy, a white Anglo-Saxon.



First governor of Pakistan's largest province and de facto power centre, Punjab, Francis Mudie, a white Anglo-Saxon.



Arthur Mcdonald head of the Pakistan air force when it ceased being the "Royal Pakistan Air Force" and became the Pakistan Air Force.

A white Anglo-Saxon.



The ISI, founded by Robert Cawthorne, a white Anglo-Saxon.



Pakistan was established by Anglo-Saxon powers to be a "Muslim" Israel and to destabilize the region.

The Kashmir issue was left deliberately unsolved by the British to remain a permanent flash-point between India and Pakistan, i.e. white imperialist divide and rule.

The borders of India and Pakistan were deliberately made awkward as possible for both sides especially in the eastern wing (now Bangladesh).


The Sigiluri corridor



The Sigiluri corridor is a tiny slither of land that connects India's north-east region with the rest of mainland India.

In any war, the then Pakistan and now Bangladesh could have easily disconnected it.

The Bangladeshi military calls this land the "chicken's neck".






Feni

However the British made sure that the then Pakistan, now Bangladesh also had a similar problem in terms of Feni, a small piece of land that connects Chittagong in the south-east to the rest of the country.





Feni marked in red.



Pakistan is merely acting out the function for which it was created i.e. to be a Punjabi "Muslim" Israel that would destabilize the whole region.

Islamic scholars and saints (awliya) of India forewarned of the tragedy and catastrophe that would occur in the future due to the creation of Pakistan and now we are seeing their wise words vindicated.

lol. a question why bengalis eat fish have no beard and r so ugly and small :P

[Loy Afghanistan]

When it comes to Afghanistan, nobody talks about how Daoud Khan invaded bajaur and started a ruckus. This prompted Ayub Khan to close the border and break ties with Afghanistan which caused the economy of Afghanistan to completely collapse.

The following years which were filled with chaos and confusion among the ruling elite paved the way for the communist revolution. We all know what happens next however.

Honestly this event between Daoud Khan and Ayub Khan was what steered Afghanistan to ruin. That's why its not fair to blame Pakistan for all of the wrongs.

Hahaha what? You think we will let some ghulam dirty smelly panjabis etc with the help of British get their artificial state from India and Afghanistan, and forget about it? Seriously Afghanistan and India should together in 1948 handle the situation with slaughtering all British slaves. Then we would not have these problems like Durrand line, Kashmir, etc.

[rednwhite99]

Hahaha what? You think we will let some ghulam dirty smelly panjabis etc with the help of British get their artificial state from India and Afghanistan, and forget about it? Seriously Afghanistan and India should together in 1948 handle the situation with slaughtering all British slaves. Then we would not have these problems like Durrand line, Kashmir, etc.

afghanistan

[Karachi]

dalay teray india main kashmir ki baat kar ra hay ,, kalay mahajar which i m sure tu koi dalit ki nasal se hay

Harami Swine ki aulad. Go **** your mom in Punju Heera Mandi, that is where she works. All your punjo women are working in heera mandi and doing mujra, go check you tube, it is filled with your moms and sisters dancing and showing their bodies

[tilla_jogian]

Harami Swine ki aulad. Go **** your mom in Punju Heera Mandi, that is where she works. All your punjo women are working in heera mandi and doing mujra, go check you tube, it is filled with your moms and sisters dancing and showing their bodies

bc toilet cleaner dalit apne master ke sath kesi bat karni hai iska pata nai?

[Karachi]

bc toilet cleaner dalit apne master ke sath kesi bat karni hai iska pata nai?

lol kaun sa master? jo log apni maa behen go bechnay main famous hon, how can they be anyone's master?

[Karachi]

jb nikal jaye to baat karna,, why ur indian ass is so worried abt pakistan,, hmm inferiority complex maybe pakis dont accept u as pakis us ki aag to nai lagy kahein ,,

I dont give a **** who punjos like you accept or not, your morons dont even embrace your own hindu roots, you think you are some persian, arab, central asian, well your whole damn culture is low caste hindu culture. Some Indian guy told me once that Punjabis in pakistan are low caste dalit converts, I completly agree with him now

[tilla_jogian]

lol kaun sa master? jo log apni maa behen go bechnay main famous hon, how can they be anyone's master?

Bc dalit convert tumari nasal UP mein sar rahi hai, tum bc wahan logon ki tatti saf karte the per Pakistan ne tume ghar aur zameen di. Aur jawab mein tum bc apne master se esi batein karte hoo?

Soon after partition many dalit converts of urdu speaking background were granted lands, punjabis gave you new start to get rid of dalit toilet cleaner tag you dirty muhajir, all in the name of religion. Never forget your true roots harami dalit.