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[Zahed]

AHAHHAHAHAAHAHAH! We will see in the future

Many of those are half bloods so clam your tits and good luck being superman behind computer.

You're a ****ing retard. Half bloods? Your mom is a half blood you ****ing faggot. You never say anything of substance and sound like a 12 year old who just discovered white supremacy. Ahahahaha. Why don't you cite some sources for once instead of peddling inane conspiracy theories? Probably because you don't know ****.

[Loy Afghanistan]

You're a ****ing retard. Half bloods? Your mom is a half blood you ****ing faggot. You never say anything of substance and sound like a 12 year old who just discovered white supremacy. Ahahahaha. Why don't you cite some sources for once instead of peddling inane conspiracy theories? Probably because you don't know ****.

What do you need haramzada? DNA samples about Arab invasion, mongol-turk invasion, rape stories? Moghul Empire?

I am not going to argue against a total looser. Now fock off. Ignore list!

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munafeq, haramzada, go take history lessons before coming to PF politics kid!

[Zahed]

What do you need haramzada? DNA samples about Arab invasion, mongol-turk invasion, rape stories? Moghul Empire?

I am not going to argue against a total looser. Now fock off. Ignore list!

Arab invasion had a minimal effect on the genetics of the region. Yeah I'm sure you're so racially pure, go take a DNA test. You will be closer to Punjabis than those Iranians you worship.

You don't even speak Pashto, you are a Persianized little b1tch and a disgrace to authentic Pashtuns.

[randolph85]

This issue of sectarianism does not really exist in Afghanistan, it is more pervasive on facebook or where ever on social media by teenagers based outside Afg than actually on the ground. On the ground there is no ethnic or religious conflict and if there is, it is minor and widely condemned by all sides. In one of the few instances of violence aimed specifically at a group, I remember there being protests in Kandahar to free the kidnapped Hazara's who were abducted.

The problem isn't Afghanistan, its her neighbors and Afghanistan's self imposed stunt of growth starting from the early 20th century which led to the disaster of the 73 coup and the coups to follow. You can't be Zahir Shah and be happy with his greatest achievement of building a German built palace in Kabul or a Soviet highway while Iran to the west is trying to be a regional power and Pakistan to the east is creating a military institution which aspires to overtake India.

[Loy Afghanistan]

This issue of sectarianism does not really exist in Afghanistan, it is more pervasive on facebook or where ever on social media by teenagers based outside Afg than actually on the ground. On the ground there is no ethnic or religious conflict and if there is, it is minor and widely condemned by all sides. In one of the few instances of violence aimed specifically at a group, I remember there being protests in Kandahar to free the kidnapped Hazara's who were abducted.

The problem isn't Afghanistan, its her neighbors and Afghanistan's self imposed stunt of growth starting from the early 20th century which led to the disaster of the 73 coup and the coups to follow. You can't be Zahir Shah and be happy with his greatest achievement of building a German built palace in Kabul or a Soviet highway while Iran to the west is trying to be a regional power and Pakistan to the east is creating a military institution which aspires to overtake India.

Well said brother, but still I do not agree with the problem is not "Afghanistan" still it must be Afghans that take the final stage to trying to build up their life's. I agree most of the people I meet does not care about ethnicity and religion. Only those who have to much time does that.

[Khostai]

This issue of sectarianism does not really exist in Afghanistan, it is more pervasive on facebook or where ever on social media by teenagers based outside Afg than actually on the ground. On the ground there is no ethnic or religious conflict and if there is, it is minor and widely condemned by all sides. In one of the few instances of violence aimed specifically at a group, I remember there being protests in Kandahar to free the kidnapped Hazara's who were abducted.

The problem isn't Afghanistan, its her neighbors and Afghanistan's self imposed stunt of growth starting from the early 20th century which led to the disaster of the 73 coup and the coups to follow. You can't be Zahir Shah and be happy with his greatest achievement of building a German built palace in Kabul or a Soviet highway while Iran to the west is trying to be a regional power and Pakistan to the east is creating a military institution which aspires to overtake India.

As an american you know nothing about sectarian hatred in Afghanistan, just becuase its hardly reported does not mean it does not excist.

[Loy Afghanistan]

As an american you know nothing about sectarian hatred in Afghanistan, just becuase its hardly reported does not mean it does not excist.

It does exist grana wroor. But in my eyes it is very hidden. Missed you.

[Bengal_Tiger]

It does exist grana wroor. But in my eyes it is very hidden. Missed you.

Afghanistan will not disintegrate.

If it didn't break up after years of Taliban rule then it won't break up now. There is some ethnic rivalry (but there's rivalry between Pashtuns e.g. Ghilzais v Durranis too) but there is too much intermarriage i.e. shared blood & family ties, as well as history. Every Afghan Pashtun I've met is Afghan first and Pashtun second (sorry if I offend anyone, merely saying my personal experience).

[randolph85]

As an american you know nothing about sectarian hatred in Afghanistan, just becuase its hardly reported does not mean it does not excist.

You are an idiot.

Obviously I am not talking about institutionalized bias or personal feelings of people. I am talking about the fact that the regular people of Afghanistan today do not have the popular habit of killing/maiming each other on the basis of ethnicity or religion. There is a reason why IS is strong in places where there is strong in places with deep rooted sectarianism and weak where sectarianism is weak like in Afghanistan.

Think with your head and not your ass. Your view of things will change drastically.

[randolph85]

Well said brother, but still I do not agree with the problem is not "Afghanistan" still it must be Afghans that take the final stage to trying to build up their life's. I agree most of the people I meet does not care about ethnicity and religion. Only those who have to much time does that.

The problem is Afghanistan ultimately, it is our kindness and simple way of life which while not a bad thing on a local level but at a national level made us weak in the past. Of course our neighbors tried to benefit from us whether the times were good or bad, we would do the same if Pakistan or Iran was in flames like Afg is today. They say the Taliban took the country to the stone age for 6 years, while the fact is that the likes of Zahir Shah and his uncles kept Afghanistan frozen in time for decades while our neighbors progressed.

Here is a good article about Pakistan and why it is more important to the west than Afghanistan. It talks about a lazy Afghanistan and an aggressive Pakistan from the middle of last century.

http://www.pajhwok.com/en/opinions/5...-afghan-policy

[Loy Afghanistan]

The problem is Afghanistan ultimately, it is our kindness and simple way of life which while not a bad thing on a local level but at a national level made us weak in the past. Of course our neighbors tried to benefit from us whether the times were good or bad, we would do the same if Pakistan or Iran was in flames like Afg is today. They say the Taliban took the country to the stone age for 6 years, while the fact is that the likes of Zahir Shah and his uncles kept Afghanistan frozen in time for decades while our neighbors progressed.

Here is a good article about Pakistan and why it is more important to the west than Afghanistan. It talks about a lazy Afghanistan and an aggressive Pakistan from the middle of last century.

http://www.pajhwok.com/en/opinions/5...-afghan-policy

I agree, yet again those who have been trying to modernize Afghanistan was somehow attacked by several sub humans both from inside Afghanistan and outside. For example, Amanullah Khan, Daoud etc.

Why do you think we the few Pashtuns, are making plans for the future? We know Pashtun lands needs a new start a new purification. It is going to be hard work, but in the end majority our grandchildren will be once more Kings over their new strong moderate state.

You know I study 10-12 H each day just to start my legacy faster. I am no day dreamer, I know our plan will not be completed in our life or my life time. But lets say 150-200 years. It is just 2 grandfather generations.

[Da Bannu Mazdigar]

The problem is Afghanistan ultimately, it is our kindness and simple way of life which while not a bad thing on a local level but at a national level made us weak in the past. Of course our neighbors tried to benefit from us whether the times were good or bad, we would do the same if Pakistan or Iran was in flames like Afg is today. They say the Taliban took the country to the stone age for 6 years, while the fact is that the likes of Zahir Shah and his uncles kept Afghanistan frozen in time for decades while our neighbors progressed.

Here is a good article about Pakistan and why it is more important to the west than Afghanistan. It talks about a lazy Afghanistan and an aggressive Pakistan from the middle of last century.

http://www.pajhwok.com/en/opinions/5...-afghan-policy

Pakistan and Afghanistan had the potential of becoming very close friends like Pakistan-China.

Pakistan won't change its policy toward Afghanistan in near future because Pakistan doesn't trust Afghanistan anymore.

[Khostai]

You are an idiot.

Obviously I am not talking about institutionalized bias or personal feelings of people. I am talking about the fact that the regular people of Afghanistan today do not have the popular habit of killing/maiming each other on the basis of ethnicity or religion. There is a reason why IS is strong in places where there is strong in places with deep rooted sectarianism and weak where sectarianism is weak like in Afghanistan.

Think with your head and not your ass. Your view of things will change drastically.

You are an idiot, in Afghanistan they can not even make electronic ID cards becuase the farsibans don't want Afghan in it. Thats just one simple exmaple on how big the hatred is between the ethnic groups. Go ****ing travel to Afghanistan and you will see how people detest each other. I guess all the burgers have affected you brains permanently.

[randolph85]

You are an idiot, in Afghanistan they can not even make electronic ID cards becuase the farsibans don't want Afghan in it. Thats just one simple exmaple on how big the hatred is between the ethnic groups. Go ****ing travel to Afghanistan and you will see how people detest each other. I guess all the burgers have affected you brains permanently.

Have people died over this issue? No.

You must have the sensibilities of a fragile woman if you think this constitutes hatred.

[khushal]

The problem is Afghanistan ultimately, it is our kindness and simple way of life which while not a bad thing on a local level but at a national level made us weak in the past. Of course our neighbors tried to benefit from us whether the times were good or bad, we would do the same if Pakistan or Iran was in flames like Afg is today. They say the Taliban took the country to the stone age for 6 years, while the fact is that the likes of Zahir Shah and his uncles kept Afghanistan frozen in time for decades while our neighbors progressed.

Here is a good article about Pakistan and why it is more important to the west than Afghanistan. It talks about a lazy Afghanistan and an aggressive Pakistan from the middle of last century.

http://www.pajhwok.com/en/opinions/5...-afghan-policy

The main reason that the West will never let go of Pakistan is that the Pak military is the best institution to keep the region divided and a divided region opens the door for increased US influence which is why they intentionally created an afghan gov that was opposed to Pakistan which further divides the region.