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  • #16
    Originally posted by DaZahroJaam. View Post
    Excuse me very much but Pakistan doesn't treat afghans for free. In a country where 20 rupees can get you out of traffic violations followed by a salut as if you were the novelty passing by the road, no one has pride enough to say no to the business that comes along with afghan patients.
    Besides, afghans are boycotting them because of their egos and pride. What the hell would be Pakistan's excuse??
    The treatment is free in government hospitals, bed is not sold per day. No business comes with Afghan patients coming from Afghanistan to Pakistani government hospitals, they are infact burden on such hospitals. Unless you mean Farsiwans getting treatment in Private hospital like Rehman medical complex.

    The point is Afghans should be prepared for worst and shouldn't whine and show frustration when Pakistan decides to seal the border like She did in 60s. Afghanistan was on its knees within months after blockade. Ego ,pride and anger of weak always ends up in embarrassment. The silence of Pakistani Pashtuns over mal-treatment of Afghan refugees in Pakistan means federal and military might be willing to cross the limits in future. The excuse of Pakistan, will be simply responding to the hostility.
    Last edited by Samandri; 08-20-2015, 05:57 AM.

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    • #17

      I have always firmly and sternly believed that the future of afghans in as well as Pakistan depends on the Pakistani government making a final decision regarding afghan refugees. Whenever they are held responsible for their lack of concern, they whine about how they are supporting afghan refugees when in fact it's the afghan refugees in Afghanistan as well as Pakistan that is holding together their economical structure. Therefore, there needs to be either accepted of sent off for good. It will not be fun but it will be good for their future as well as that of those afghans living in Afghanistan. Then, that border needs to be closed and not a single terrorist allowed in to Afghanistan.
      We won't get medication and you won't know what to do with your terrorists. We will see who suffers the most.




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      • #18
        Originally posted by DaZahroJaam. View Post

        I have always firmly and sternly believed that the future of afghans in as well as Pakistan depends on the Pakistani government making a final decision regarding afghan refugees. Whenever they are held responsible for their lack of concern, they whine about how they are supporting afghan refugees when in fact it's the afghan refugees in Afghanistan as well as Pakistan that is holding together their economical structure. Therefore, there needs to be either accepted of sent off for good. It will not be fun but it will be good for their future as well as that of those afghans living in Afghanistan. Then, that border needs to be closed and not a single terrorist allowed in to Afghanistan.
        We won't get medication and you won't know what to do with your terrorists. We will see who suffers the most.



        Used to be the case, but nowadays not so much funds are coming from UN and countries for Afghan refugees in Pakistan, so Pakistan is getting meaner to them day by day. They all will be surely expelled , i fear with humiliation (recent event in Islamabad is the proof). Also tens of thousands of Afghans are doing businesses in Pakistan with fake NICs from NADRA , personally know some. They are sending some of their their hard earned money to Afghanistan or foreign, imagine if Pakistan start crack down on these Karobaris. Ghairat, Pride and Ego would be not to earn from pakistan at all.

        Patriotic sentiments are respectable, but Afghanistan would suffer drastically from sealing of the border. One example already exists in history, after sealing of Durand line by Ayub Khan, Afghanistan's economy got collapsed and help was sought from Soviet union......which resulted in increased Russian and communist influence in Afghanistan.

        To be precise, all the Pashtun tribes along the Durand of both countries would also suffer, they are heavily involved in smuggling.......Protest against terrorism from Pakistan is one thing, but boycotting Pakistani goods and products is unrealistic.

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        • #19
          O I didn't get to finish my thought. After the border is sealed and all the beghairat afghans are reminded that if they choose to stay in Pakistan, they have no one but themselves to blame in near future, we will settle the Durand matter and then join India to take care of the Pakistan issue. At the end, they will keep half and we will keep the other half. The afghans who did choose to leave Pakistan would then have the option to choose which part of Pakistan they want to live in and the rest of Pakistan will be turned in to factory grounds. No decent afghan will choose to live anywhere near that Gos forsaken land out of their own will.
          Pashtuns along the Durand line will be right in their own places but the rest of you can go wherever the hell you please.

          It always gets tough right before things start becoming easy..

          "To burn always with this hard gemlike flame, to maintain this ecstasy, is success in life."





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          • #20
            So you want afghans to come back to Afghanistan but not to close the border because that would be too much of an inconvenience to them??

            Hahahaha, you are funny.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by DaZahroJaam. View Post
              O I didn't get to finish my thought. After the border is sealed and all the beghairat afghans are reminded that if they choose to stay in Pakistan, they have no one but themselves to blame in near future, we will settle the Durand matter and then join India to take care of the Pakistan issue. At the end, they will keep half and we will keep the other half.


              2015 is supposed to be last year of afghanis refugees in Pakistan. To be honest calling economic migrants refugees is dishonesty. These economic migrants should go back to afghanistan, refugees live in camps.

              Anyway I don't see much future for Afghanistan, it should be broken in coming years when ever USA decide to put end to monetary support. Likes of abdullah were ready to break away but warning of cutting USA aid meant they have decided to stay together for time being.

              Pak-Afghanistan border will be mined and closed in couple of years.
              Best post in PF history
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              ''Today the ideology of Pakistaniat within Pakistanis is so strong that even if world war 3 is fought within Pakistan boundries,Pakistan will survive.'' [/I]Da Bannu Mazdigar

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              • #22
                Originally posted by tilla_jogian View Post


                2015 is supposed to be last year of afghanis refugees in Pakistan. To be honest calling economic migrants refugees is dishonesty. These economic migrants should go back to afghanistan, refugees live in camps.

                Anyway I don't see much future for Afghanistan, it should be broken in coming years when ever USA decide to put end to monetary support. Likes of abdullah were ready to break away but warning of cutting USA aid meant they have decided to stay together for time being.

                Pak-Afghanistan border will be mined and closed in couple of years.
                Are there concrete plans for mining the border, or just talk? Because I don't see Pakistan ever doing something that would anger the Afghan Pashtuns so much.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Al-Afghani View Post
                  Are there concrete plans for mining the border, or just talk? Because I don't see Pakistan ever doing something that would anger the Afghan Pashtuns so much.
                  I don't think Pakistan care what anger afghani pashtuns anymore. I guess recent events all over Pakistan should have been enough. In first phase border will be sealed, it will take few years. After that mined to discourage unwanted movement. Afghan pashtuns should look towards making up with their tajik, hazara, uzbek etc brothers with in Afghanistan instead of running towards Pakistan.

                  I keep repeating but Pak support for Afghani pashtuns (taliban or otherwise) was because of Pakistani pashtuns, now everyone is getting sick of them. Time to move on.
                  Last edited by tilla_jogian; 08-20-2015, 10:34 AM.
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                  ''Today the ideology of Pakistaniat within Pakistanis is so strong that even if world war 3 is fought within Pakistan boundries,Pakistan will survive.'' [/I]Da Bannu Mazdigar

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by tilla_jogian View Post


                    2015 is supposed to be last year of afghanis refugees in Pakistan. To be honest calling economic migrants refugees is dishonesty. These economic migrants should go back to afghanistan, refugees live in camps.

                    Anyway I don't see much future for Afghanistan, it should be broken in coming years when ever USA decide to put end to monetary support. Likes of abdullah were ready to break away but warning of cutting USA aid meant they have decided to stay together for time being.

                    Pak-Afghanistan border will be mined and closed in couple of years.
                    you are right. They should go back to their country. As for what you do or do not see in the country's future, that is a matter that is none of your business.

                    "To burn always with this hard gemlike flame, to maintain this ecstasy, is success in life."





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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by DaZahroJaam. View Post
                      you are right. They should go back to their country. As for what you do or do not see in the country's future, I don't think the matter ought to concern you.
                      First they should apologize to tajiks, uzbeks and hazaras for being genocidal maniacs. After that swear never to look towards Pakistan what ever happen in Afghanistan. Pakistan should be unpure land for them, haram land. Hopefully some afghani mullahs can issue fatwa on this.
                      Best post in PF history
                      [I]
                      ''Today the ideology of Pakistaniat within Pakistanis is so strong that even if world war 3 is fought within Pakistan boundries,Pakistan will survive.'' [/I]Da Bannu Mazdigar

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by tilla_jogian View Post
                        First they should apologize to tajiks, uzbeks and hazaras for being genocidal maniacs. After that swear never to look towards Pakistan what ever happen in Afghanistan. Pakistan should be unpure land for them, haram land. Hopefully some afghani mullahs can issue fatwa on this.
                        Afghans should apologize to Tajiks and hazaras?? Who do you think Afghans are if not the very hazaras and Tajiks you mention??
                        We will turn to each other and do that. Right after Pakistan stops producing terrorists and closes the portal to Afghanistan.
                        Good day. I have a big day ahead of me and this gibberish is already leaving a nasty vibe behind.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by DaZahroJaam. View Post
                          Afghans should apologize to Tajiks and hazaras?? Who do you think Afghans are if not the very hazaras and Tajiks you mention??
                          We will turn to each other and do that. Right after Pakistan stops producing terrorists and closes the portal to Afghanistan.
                          Good day. I have a big day ahead of me and this gibberish is already leaving a nasty vibe behind.
                          Pakistan don't produce terrorists, afghanis moving freerly in open border doesn't mean Pakistan is producing terrorists. They are basically afghanis. This should be stopped and border sealed with mines so blame game can end. Afghani terrorist moving few KM in Pak border and then going back to kill more ANA doesn't mean he is Pakistani now.
                          Last edited by tilla_jogian; 08-20-2015, 11:44 AM.
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                          [I]
                          ''Today the ideology of Pakistaniat within Pakistanis is so strong that even if world war 3 is fought within Pakistan boundries,Pakistan will survive.'' [/I]Da Bannu Mazdigar

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by tilla_jogian View Post
                            I keep repeating but Pak support for Afghani pashtuns (taliban or otherwise) was because of Pakistani pashtuns, now everyone is getting sick of them. Time to move on.
                            let me tell you punjobo a very big secret of pakistan and pakistan inner insecurities. there is a proverb in urdu " ma to kambul chor raha hu par kambul muje nai chor raha". is that ring a bell?

                            pakistan support to taliban is nothing more than an appeasement policy. you may don't know but the elusive and mystical islamist nature of afghan taliban is so hard well integrated into pashtun societies at this side of the border and into the mindset of a common pakistani that it will be a suicidal mission for your own country to take any step against them. you very well know what is happening of Musharraf policies siding american.
                            it's simple your country don't have balls to act against Afghan taliban otherwise your own kin punjoobo radical is going to chew your bones and flesh. and it will take only a one fatwa of Afghan talib shura.
                            my pashtun kin on this side of the border are witness to this.

                            keep this in mind.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by marwat View Post
                              let me tell you punjobo a very big secret of pakistan and pakistan inner insecurities. there is a proverb in urdu " ma to kambul chor raha hu par kambul muje nai chor raha". is that ring a bell?

                              pakistan support to taliban is nothing more than an appeasement policy. you may don't know but the elusive and mystical islamist nature of afghan taliban is so hard well integrated into pashtun societies at this side of the border and into the mindset of a common pakistani that it will be a suicidal mission for your own country to take any step against them. you very well know what is happening of Musharraf policies siding american.
                              it's simple your country don't have balls to act against Afghan taliban otherwise your own kin punjoobo radical is going to chew your bones and flesh. and it will take only a one fatwa of Afghan talib shura.
                              my pashtun kin on this side of the border are witness to this.

                              keep this in mind.
                              I have never heard of that urdu prob in my life, are you muhajir pathan by any chance? We have rooted out TTP from Pak soil, we have rooted out afghani taliban from Pak soil. Now final solution is mine the border for unwanted movement between Pakistan and Afghanistan.

                              Afghani taliban are Pak slaves, they will behave as we told them. Thats why they are now negotiating with ANA goverment in Kabul because Pakistan told them to do so.
                              Best post in PF history
                              [I]
                              ''Today the ideology of Pakistaniat within Pakistanis is so strong that even if world war 3 is fought within Pakistan boundries,Pakistan will survive.'' [/I]Da Bannu Mazdigar

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by tilla_jogian View Post
                                I have never heard of that urdu prob in my life, are you muhajir pathan by any chance? We have rooted out TTP from Pak soil, we have rooted out afghani taliban from Pak soil. Now final solution is mine the border for unwanted movement between Pakistan and Afghanistan.

                                Afghani taliban are Pak slaves, they will behave as we told them. Thats why they are now negotiating with ANA goverment in Kabul because Pakistan told them to do so.
                                ok punjobo. go to sleep

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