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  • #46
    and if not, it's better to die with some dignity and due to the ineffectiveness of a pill than some terrorist butchering you by the sidewalk with the training he acquired with the money you provided him with.

    Okay, did I just talk to khostai.. I thought I was talking to khushal.. Awkward..

    "To burn always with this hard gemlike flame, to maintain this ecstasy, is success in life."





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    • #47
      Afghan-Pak Trade Drops 40 Percent in Three Months: PAJCCI

      Tuesday, 15 September 2015 10:41

      Last Updated on Wednesday, 16 September 2015 10:16

      Written by Zabihullah Jhanmal



      Officials from the Pakistan Afghanistan Joint Chamber of Commerce and Industry (PAJCCI) said on Monday that trade between the two neighbors has dropped by just over 40 percent in the past three months.

      The officials believe that the recent souring of relations between Afghanistan and Pakistan is largely behind this development and say that Afghan businessmen in particular have reduced the number of products, particularly food, that they import and are instead turning to other regional countries for supplies.

      There are however other issues that have added to this decrease – issues that include transit problems, the worsening economy and the increase of customs tariffs into the country, said officials.

      However, a widespread, yet informal boycott of Pakistani products is being seen around the country – particularly in Kabul.

      One city resident, Parwiz Haidari, said his entire family now refuse to buy any Pakistani products. "In the past I bought rice, oil, wheat and other products from Pakistan. Now I look for alternate products from countries such as Russia, Turkey, India and even Kuwait."

      He says the price of goods from other countries might be slightly higher but they are usually of a better quality compared to Pakistani products.

      Last year Afghanistan and Pakistan's trade volume totaled an estimated $9 billion USD – this year however, projections are that this will top no more than $5 billion USD. Already, PAJCCI said the recent move has had a negative impact on factories in Pakistan and resulted in the closure of a number of such businesses in the neighboring country.

      "Now due to Pakistan's agenda towards Afghanistan, there has been a public move to boycott products manufactured in this country [Pakistan]. Because of this the people don't want to use goods from Pakistan. Bad relations between Pakistan and Afghanistan have caused this drop in trade between the two countries. Even a number of Pakistani investors have raised concerns over the issue," deputy chairman of the Afghanistan Chamber of Commerce and Industries (ACCI) Khan Jan Alokozay said.

      As an example, he said that three months ago, more than three tons of oil was being imported into Afghanistan from Pakistan. Today that figure has dropped to just two tons.

      Alokozay said that "right now even children are refusing to buy Pakistan goods such as biscuits. Because of this, many businessmen have stopped importing goods from Pakistan."

      Meanwhile, officials from the Industries Association are optimist that this will have a positive impact on the domestic manufacturing market. They said: "Right now motivation has been created in the markets to use local products and owners of factories are optimistic over the increase of [sales] of their products."

      Afghanistan Industrial Association (AIA) head Ahmad Sakhi Payman said local manufacturers can use this to their own benefit and increase production in order to serve the local market.

      Importers have meanwhile, turned to other regional markets to fill the gap and are now bringing in goods from Turkey, Iran, China, Turkmenistan, Russia, India and other Asian countries.

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      • #48
        Originally posted by Bengal_Tiger View Post
        Afghan-Pak Trade Drops 40 Percent in Three Months: PAJCCI

        Tuesday, 15 September 2015 10:41

        Last Updated on Wednesday, 16 September 2015 10:16

        Written by Zabihullah Jhanmal



        Officials from the Pakistan Afghanistan Joint Chamber of Commerce and Industry (PAJCCI) said on Monday that trade between the two neighbors has dropped by just over 40 percent in the past three months.

        The officials believe that the recent souring of relations between Afghanistan and Pakistan is largely behind this development and say that Afghan businessmen in particular have reduced the number of products, particularly food, that they import and are instead turning to other regional countries for supplies.

        There are however other issues that have added to this decrease – issues that include transit problems, the worsening economy and the increase of customs tariffs into the country, said officials.

        However, a widespread, yet informal boycott of Pakistani products is being seen around the country – particularly in Kabul.

        One city resident, Parwiz Haidari, said his entire family now refuse to buy any Pakistani products. "In the past I bought rice, oil, wheat and other products from Pakistan. Now I look for alternate products from countries such as Russia, Turkey, India and even Kuwait."

        He says the price of goods from other countries might be slightly higher but they are usually of a better quality compared to Pakistani products.

        Last year Afghanistan and Pakistan's trade volume totaled an estimated $9 billion USD – this year however, projections are that this will top no more than $5 billion USD. Already, PAJCCI said the recent move has had a negative impact on factories in Pakistan and resulted in the closure of a number of such businesses in the neighboring country.

        "Now due to Pakistan's agenda towards Afghanistan, there has been a public move to boycott products manufactured in this country [Pakistan]. Because of this the people don't want to use goods from Pakistan. Bad relations between Pakistan and Afghanistan have caused this drop in trade between the two countries. Even a number of Pakistani investors have raised concerns over the issue," deputy chairman of the Afghanistan Chamber of Commerce and Industries (ACCI) Khan Jan Alokozay said.

        As an example, he said that three months ago, more than three tons of oil was being imported into Afghanistan from Pakistan. Today that figure has dropped to just two tons.

        Alokozay said that "right now even children are refusing to buy Pakistan goods such as biscuits. Because of this, many businessmen have stopped importing goods from Pakistan."

        Meanwhile, officials from the Industries Association are optimist that this will have a positive impact on the domestic manufacturing market. They said: "Right now motivation has been created in the markets to use local products and owners of factories are optimistic over the increase of [sales] of their products."

        Afghanistan Industrial Association (AIA) head Ahmad Sakhi Payman said local manufacturers can use this to their own benefit and increase production in order to serve the local market.

        Importers have meanwhile, turned to other regional markets to fill the gap and are now bringing in goods from Turkey, Iran, China, Turkmenistan, Russia, India and other Asian countries.

        http://www.tolonews.com/en/business/...-months-pajcci
        Great news. Afghan People are amazing.

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        • #49
          1. Afghanistan as a state and a society is far stronger than it was 10 or 15 years ago.

          The days of Pakistan bullying Afghanistan with impunity are slowly coming to an end.


          2. Afghans are a resilient people and used to war and hardship, so a slight decrease in economic standards is a relatively minor price to pay if it means Afghan lives are saved from terrorist attacks.


          3. Other countries and their businessmen will be more than happy to fill in the gap including the Muslim countries of central Asia, Turkey and even Iran.

          There is also only so far that Pakistan can go with Afghanistan, as the Afghans enjoy backing from other major powers including Muslim powers such as Turkey which will never allow Turkic peoples in Afghanistan to fall under the control of Pakistan-sponsored Taliban terrorists.



          Leader of Turkic people in Afghanistan (Uzbeks but also Turkmens), Dostum with the previous head of the fascist Turkish military, Necdet Ozel.


          4. We have to wait and see if there will be a full normalization of Iran's trading relations with the rest of the world. If that does happen we can expect a massive increase of Iranian economic activity and influence in Afghanistan and the rest of the region. This may remove the power of Pakistan in Afghanistan even more so.



          Afghan president Ghani with Iranian president Rohani.



          5. Impact on Pakistan?

          Pakistan is a poor third world country struggling with poverty where 41 million people don't have toilets and ridden with ethnic and sectarian division, kept together by American backed Punjabi generals. The several billion dollars of lost income is a major blow to a poor country like Pakistan and many businesses will go bust and many people will lose their jobs.

          Can Pakistan afford billions of dollars of loss and the collapse of businesses?

          The Punjabi generals of Rawalpindi that rule Pakistan won't care, only unless this economic loss combined with other problems contributes to greater problems.

          With a population of 200 million people, who in general are very aggressive, and growing and with its largest city of 20 million, Karachi, bursting at the seams, Pakistan is heading towards a long-term crisis.

          The late 2000s highlighted the inherent instability and dysfunctionality of the Pakistani state.

          This inherent dysfunctionality may just be further exacerbated with more time.

          Pakistan is in a long-term crisis.



          Poverty in Pakistan.



          However poverty in Pakistan is disproportionately focused amongst Pashtuns and Sindhis who are minorities, whereas the majority Punjab province has far less poverty, so for the time being the Punjabi-ruled Pakistani state can weather the storm, however in the long run as we saw in east Pakistan in 1971, Sindhis and thus later on Pashtuns may opt out of the federation.



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          • #50
            Originally posted by Afghanfootball View Post
            Great news. Afghan People are amazing.
            This forum would be seen as completely disconnected from reality (as [MENTION=1498]ComradePashtun[/MENTION] who unless I'm wrong - and I might be - is based in Kabul at the moment, might inform us).

            Afghans in real life are totally different to a few of the characters and trolls that we saw on this forum and on social media e.g. facebook some of the trolls (we both know who I'm talking about) would be crucified by Afghans online if they tried to promote their nonsense.

            Social media, economic development is just increasing the already strong sense of nationalism amongst Afghans and the rejection of outdated backwards fundamentalism.

            Pakistani nationalists must be shocked that Afghans are so "bold" to boycott Pakistani junk. They probably thought it would never happen, but it has.
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            • #51
              Originally posted by Bengal_Tiger View Post
              Afghan-Pak Trade Drops 40 Percent in Three Months: PAJCCI

              Tuesday, 15 September 2015 10:41

              Last Updated on Wednesday, 16 September 2015 10:16

              Written by Zabihullah Jhanmal



              Officials from the Pakistan Afghanistan Joint Chamber of Commerce and Industry (PAJCCI) said on Monday that trade between the two neighbors has dropped by just over 40 percent in the past three months.

              The officials believe that the recent souring of relations between Afghanistan and Pakistan is largely behind this development and say that Afghan businessmen in particular have reduced the number of products, particularly food, that they import and are instead turning to other regional countries for supplies.

              There are however other issues that have added to this decrease – issues that include transit problems, the worsening economy and the increase of customs tariffs into the country, said officials.

              However, a widespread, yet informal boycott of Pakistani products is being seen around the country – particularly in Kabul.

              One city resident, Parwiz Haidari, said his entire family now refuse to buy any Pakistani products. "In the past I bought rice, oil, wheat and other products from Pakistan. Now I look for alternate products from countries such as Russia, Turkey, India and even Kuwait."

              He says the price of goods from other countries might be slightly higher but they are usually of a better quality compared to Pakistani products.

              Last year Afghanistan and Pakistan's trade volume totaled an estimated $9 billion USD – this year however, projections are that this will top no more than $5 billion USD. Already, PAJCCI said the recent move has had a negative impact on factories in Pakistan and resulted in the closure of a number of such businesses in the neighboring country.

              "Now due to Pakistan's agenda towards Afghanistan, there has been a public move to boycott products manufactured in this country [Pakistan]. Because of this the people don't want to use goods from Pakistan. Bad relations between Pakistan and Afghanistan have caused this drop in trade between the two countries. Even a number of Pakistani investors have raised concerns over the issue," deputy chairman of the Afghanistan Chamber of Commerce and Industries (ACCI) Khan Jan Alokozay said.

              As an example, he said that three months ago, more than three tons of oil was being imported into Afghanistan from Pakistan. Today that figure has dropped to just two tons.

              Alokozay said that "right now even children are refusing to buy Pakistan goods such as biscuits. Because of this, many businessmen have stopped importing goods from Pakistan."

              Meanwhile, officials from the Industries Association are optimist that this will have a positive impact on the domestic manufacturing market. They said: "Right now motivation has been created in the markets to use local products and owners of factories are optimistic over the increase of [sales] of their products."

              Afghanistan Industrial Association (AIA) head Ahmad Sakhi Payman said local manufacturers can use this to their own benefit and increase production in order to serve the local market.

              Importers have meanwhile, turned to other regional markets to fill the gap and are now bringing in goods from Turkey, Iran, China, Turkmenistan, Russia, India and other Asian countries.

              http://www.tolonews.com/en/business/...-months-pajcci
              Afghan's are shooting themselves in the foot. Wonder if they'll blame the Pakistanis when the cost of living spirals and more Afghans join up militant groups to pay for their families.

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              • #52
                Originally posted by Afghanfootball View Post
                Great news. Afghan People are amazing.
                800 flour mills closed as Afghanistan stops wheat import from Pakistan



                Around 800 flour mills have reportedly shut down in Pakistan as Afghanistan has stopped import of wheat from the country.

                According to local media reports, citing the relevant authorities in Pakistan, the export of flour from Pakistan to Afghanistan was suspended temporarily on Tuesday after authorities in the neighbouring country increased custom duty on the commodity .The reports further added that flour exporters and dealers in Peshawar stopped export of the commodity to Afghanistan as they were asked to deposit additional amount as custom duty by the Afghan authorities at Torkham border.

                Another newspaper, The Express, reported that the Afghan government has hinted at banning the import of wheat flour from Pakistan because of its high cost and low quality.

                The move is likely to cause hardships for mill owners as unconfirmed data reveals 800 flour mills, mostly in K-P, have already shut down due to one reason or the other.This comes as reports emerging earlier suggested that the medical business in Peshawar city of Pakistan has suffered significantly following the Torkham incident last month which led to the decreased movement of Afghans to the country who were mainly traveling for medical care.

                According to reports, half of patients at the private hospitals in Peshawar were the Afghans.“Since the Torkham incident, we were getting less than 10 percent of the usual number of Afghan patients during Ramazan. This was much less even for the month of Ramazan when there is a general drop of patients by 50 percent,” a doctor in a private hospital in Peshawar said.

                8 flour mills closed as Afghanistan stops wheat import from Pakistan - Khaama Press (KP) | Afghan News Agency



                This might be affecting Pashtun areas of Pakistan rather than the actual Punjabi heartland of Pakistan (Greater Punjab a.k.a Punjabistan).

                Nevertheless it shows the power of any Afghan boycott.
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                • #53
                  Originally posted by Bengal_Tiger View Post
                  800 flour mills closed as Afghanistan stops wheat import from Pakistan



                  Around 800 flour mills have reportedly shut down in Pakistan as Afghanistan has stopped import of wheat from the country.

                  According to local media reports, citing the relevant authorities in Pakistan, the export of flour from Pakistan to Afghanistan was suspended temporarily on Tuesday after authorities in the neighbouring country increased custom duty on the commodity .The reports further added that flour exporters and dealers in Peshawar stopped export of the commodity to Afghanistan as they were asked to deposit additional amount as custom duty by the Afghan authorities at Torkham border.

                  Another newspaper, The Express, reported that the Afghan government has hinted at banning the import of wheat flour from Pakistan because of its high cost and low quality.

                  The move is likely to cause hardships for mill owners as unconfirmed data reveals 800 flour mills, mostly in K-P, have already shut down due to one reason or the other.This comes as reports emerging earlier suggested that the medical business in Peshawar city of Pakistan has suffered significantly following the Torkham incident last month which led to the decreased movement of Afghans to the country who were mainly traveling for medical care.

                  According to reports, half of patients at the private hospitals in Peshawar were the Afghans.“Since the Torkham incident, we were getting less than 10 percent of the usual number of Afghan patients during Ramazan. This was much less even for the month of Ramazan when there is a general drop of patients by 50 percent,” a doctor in a private hospital in Peshawar said.

                  8 flour mills closed as Afghanistan stops wheat import from Pakistan - Khaama Press (KP) | Afghan News Agency



                  This might be affecting Pashtun areas of Pakistan rather than the actual Punjabi heartland of Pakistan (Greater Punjab a.k.a Punjabistan).

                  Nevertheless it shows the power of any Afghan boycott.
                  These mills will open once again in future because demand is rising every year in Pakistan. This is good news for Pakistan in long term because most of subsidised wheat get smuggled in to Afghanistan. This will help make wheat less expensive for natives of Pakistan. Bad news for smugglers.

                  Less afghan patients mean more space for native Pakistanis in hospitals. Time for afghanis to build hospitals in other side of durrand line because border isn't opening ever again. Anyway bad days ahead for afghanis who now will not even afford wheat once smuggling is stopped.
                  Last edited by Golden; 07-21-2016, 06:50 PM.

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by Afghanfootball
                    Good we should stop a imports of anything from that ****hole. Iv never really cared for Paki Pashtuns, they are not Afghan and dont count themselves as such. Though the small minority that counts themselves as Afghan even if they look 100% Punjabi imo are just as Afghan as any other Afghan.
                    LMAO Brother you shouldn't take sides in internal conflict between pathans considering you're not even pathan but fake syed wannabe mughal/arab. Punjabi looking Pathan from Peshawar and Kabul will rape arab/mughal from Kunar together if given opportunity. You instead should join forces with your kin Ferdousi.

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by Golden View Post
                      These mills will open once again in future because demand is rising every year in Pakistan. This is good news for Pakistan in long term because most of subsidised wheat get smuggled in to Afghanistan. This will help make wheat less expensive for natives of Pakistan. Bad news for smugglers.

                      Less afghan patients mean more space for native Pakistanis in hospitals. Time for afghanis to build hospitals in other side of durrand line because border isn't opening ever again. Anyway bad days ahead for afghanis who now will not even afford wheat once smuggling is stopped.
                      Definitely Pakistanis are the most deluded people walking the Earth right now. Hundreds of jobs have been lost, many companies have gone bankrupt,.. and still these guys think its good for their country! lol
                      "For thirty years, I endured much pain and strife,
                      I awaken the Ajam by this Persian [language]. "

                      -Ferdowsi.

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by Afghanfootball
                        Good we should stop a imports of anything from that ****hole. Iv never really cared for Paki Pashtuns, they are not Afghan and dont count themselves as such. Though the small minority that counts themselves as Afghan even if they look 100% Punjabi imo are just as Afghan as any other Afghan.
                        Brother, there is no need to ban anything from Pakistan. Once Chabahar is full operative we will be able to impose high taxes on Pakistani products. From time to time we will close the border to them so their products will never reach Central Asia.

                        There is no need to ban anything. Just make their life impossible. Game is changing. Pakistan will suffer. We will have fun lol
                        "For thirty years, I endured much pain and strife,
                        I awaken the Ajam by this Persian [language]. "

                        -Ferdowsi.

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by Firdousi View Post
                          Definitely Pakistanis are the most deluded people walking the Earth right now. Hundreds of jobs have been lost, many companies have gone bankrupt,.. and still these guys think its good for their country! lol
                          Brother seem like you can't ignore me but I have no time for you.

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by Golden View Post
                            Brother seem like you can't ignore me but I have no time for you.
                            Of course I can about you! People care about their pets lol
                            "For thirty years, I endured much pain and strife,
                            I awaken the Ajam by this Persian [language]. "

                            -Ferdowsi.

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