Walking Away or Ignoring Afghanistan is not an Option for India

[tilla_jogian]

Afghans saved you just like the Wazir and Muhsud saved you from India. Panjabis cant fight for themselves, they only fight on orders from a white man which is why you guys were mercenaries for Brits all over the world, they used 2 million of you to fight their WW2 against Germany and Japan.

Wat? You are as dumb as one can expect afghani to be. Not even 1 thing you said is true. 2 million figure is exaggerated. Afghanis saving Pakis

You should thank panjabis for creating Afghan Taliban and helping them take out soviets.

[tilla_jogian]

The realization of this China-Punjab Corridor is also a difficult prospect now that the Punjabi lobby, i. e., Nawaz League and the army has made it a controversial project in the very beginning. Don't exclude the partnership between Baluch, Pashtuns, and people of Gilgit-Baltistan and the West in future whereas the West aim is to contain China's reach into the Persian Gulf and Indian Ocean and aim of the above group is to express their resentment.

The corridor is also becoming a second Kalabagh dam issue.

See the map I posted, stop posting bs. You are Pakistani, I expect better from you. Afghanis are beghairats and haters like Indians, so I don't mind them.

You are again mentioning Gilget, where people are desperate to be part of Pakistan as 5th province. Yep they will become part of Afghanistan in near future lol

Baloch again lol. Let afghanis dream about G-B and Gwader, you are better then that. You are Pakistani.

[khushal]

You have a truly one-dimensional perspective on this. Right now China and Russia are more concerned about the instability in the Asian landmass which mainly comprises of China, Russia(Russia being a Euroasian power), and India. This to a degree is also the concern of India.

China strategy is not as much India focused as it is West and US focused.

US is shifting 60% of its naval fleet to Asia-Pacific region by 2020 in order to contain China in Pacific and South-China Sea. Just read about Abe's recent visit to US. Moreover, it is also taking steps to contain the expansion of China's influence in Asia's rim region (ME, Iran, Pakistan, part of Central Asia). Don't forget that China's weakest spots are in its western part (Tibet, Xingiang) where it can be destabilized. Whereas sustained disturbance in Tibet may be a difficult undertaking for US, instability in Xingiang through Islamist militancy is an achievable aim (why instability in Kunduz and northern parts of Afghanistan?).

Right now US is encouraging Pakistan to fan militancy in AfPak region whereas China is pressuring and persuading it to give it up. Should the militant expansion threaten China and the broader Euroasia, China together with Russia will not hesitate to ditch Pakistan and manipulate the instability for their own strategic objectives.

Well ofcourse. The US is the main rival for influence against China in China's own neighborhood but that does not mean India/Pak/Central Asia is not important. China's priority may be the China sea but its expansion westward is also important.


My main point was that if there was no Pakistan, then Hind with Central Asia would be a much bigger power than Russia or China, it would be the US's main rival rather than China.
There is no proof that the US is encouraging Pakistan to fan militancy. Militancy is just a reaction to US invasions and interference. Pakistan suports it because it is in its interest and it is the only way for them to have some influence even though they can not fully control the groups.


Unlike the US, Russia and China can not manipulate the militancy what so ever to its advantage. The militancy will contain both China and Russia with Russia being the big loser. ME could have been much more stable if Pak did not exist.
Here is a good article about what your saying: US power will be unchallenged for a long long time.

http://www.comw.org/pda/fulltext/9709brzezinski.html

[tilla_jogian]

Well ofcourse. The US is the main rival for influence against China in China's own neighborhood but that does not mean India/Pak/Central Asia is not important. China's priority may be the China sea but its expansion westward is also important.


My main point was that if there was no Pakistan, then Hind with Central Asia would be a much bigger power than Russia or China, it would be the US's main rival rather than China.
There is no proof that the US is encouraging Pakistan to fan militancy. Militancy is just a reaction to US invasions and interference. Pakistan suports it because it is in its interest and it is the only way for them to have some influence even though they can not fully control the groups.


Unlike the US, Russia and China can not manipulate the militancy what so ever to its advantage. The militancy will contain both China and Russia with Russia being the big loser. ME could have been much more stable if Pak did not exist.
Here is a good article about what your saying: US power will be unchallenged for a long long time.
http://www.comw.org/pda/fulltext/9709brzezinski.html

If Pakistan didn't exist then Bharat would have extended Akhand Bharat in to Afghanistan. They claim Afghanistan because of religious reasons.

[khushal]

Wat? You are as dumb as one can expect afghani to be. Not even 1 thing you said is true. 2 million figure is exaggerated. Afghanis saving Pakis

You should thank panjabis for creating Afghan Taliban and helping them take out soviets.

yup, 2 million of your baighyrat were killing their own for their white masters. Even your heera mundi was created by the Brits for their perverted white soldiers.

http://asianhistory.about.com/od/colonialisminasia/p/profbritraj.htm

Why dont you tell your own panjabis to rescue those women in heera mundi and then you could boast about your ghyrat. until that happens, keep your head low like you did to the Brits.

[khushal]

If Pakistan didn't exist then Bharat would have extended Akhand Bharat in to Afghanistan. They claim Afghanistan because of religious reasons.

Afghans ruled Bharat for 500 years.

[tilla_jogian]

Afghans ruled Bharat for 500 years.

Which Afghans? Khilji? They were turkic people. Abdalis? They were Paki Baloch people but Abdali was born in Multan. East and south afghani pashtuns are basically Pak Baloch people (in geographical sense) from Koh Suleiman mountains originally. Real afghanis who make 70 % of population were ****ed by mongols some centuries ago, they are small, chinki, etc. Real afghanis are son of chenghez khan, these chinki people are majority in Afghanistan. I don't consider afghani pashtuns as true afghanis, since they all migrated from Pakistan Balochistan.

Said all this, no doubt Bharat still would have extended Akhand Bharat. With help of Bharati pashtuns especially.

[tilla_jogian]

yup, 2 million of your baighyrat were killing their own for their white masters. Even your heera mundi was created by the Brits for their perverted white soldiers.
http://asianhistory.about.com/od/col...rofbritraj.htm

Why dont you tell your own panjabis to rescue those women in heera mundi and then you could boast about your ghyrat. until that happens, keep your head low like you did to the Brits.

Beghairta why you don't stop selling afghani girls to punjabis? Where is your ghairat now?

[ComradePashtun]

Pakistan-China corridor, it will soon become Pakistan-China-Central Asia corridor. China is happy with Pakistan, they are investing $46 billion for that reason.

This corridor wont include Central Asia. Tajikistan and Kazakhstan is already well connected with China. I don't know if you know this but the Chinese and Afghan government have finalized a project which is road connectivity between Xinjiang with Badakhshan province as part of their Silk Route project. Apparently Chinese technicians and engineers are visiting Afghanistan either this month or some time soon. So if this road connectivity with Afghanistan realizes then through this route Uzbekistan, the Caucus region, Iran and Turkey is at least a 1000 kilometers shorter than the China-Pakistan corridor. Iran will also support this.

Any idea on what net benefit of the USD 30 bln plus will be on the Pakistani economy? You do know of the Chinese model of particular infrastructure building projects has had scant net effect/contribution in other parts of the world on the local economy?

[ComradePashtun]

Relations between Iran and Pakistan is also taking a low and presumably wont resuscitate as the Iranians simply don't trust or have any liking for Pak (middleast, Pakis reneging on the gas project etc.). I see an equation workable between India, Afghanistan and Iran and that the India and Afghan government are taking the Chahbahar port serious is prelude to that.

[khushal]

Beghairta why you don't stop selling afghani girls to punjabis? Where is your ghairat now?

Thats panjabi fantasy. Foolishly thinking your the master when the Brit beef is stuck in your arse cuckolding you for generations making you say things you have no knowledge of. Take the Brit beef out of your curry arse and rescue those women in heera mundi and change your sissy culture.

Here is how the Brits cuckolded you while your soldiers fought for Brits against Germany.

http://blogs.tribune.com.pk/story/1150/heera-mandi-the-scarlet-secrets-of-old-lahore/

These brothel houses were first developed by the British in old Anarkali Bazaar for the recreation of the British soldiers.

[khushal]

Which Afghans? Khilji? They were turkic people. Abdalis? They were Paki Baloch people but Abdali was born in Multan. East and south afghani pashtuns are basically Pak Baloch people (in geographical sense) from Koh Suleiman mountains originally. Real afghanis who make 70 % of population were ****ed by mongols some centuries ago, they are small, chinki, etc. Real afghanis are son of chenghez khan, these chinki people are majority in Afghanistan. I don't consider afghani pashtuns as true afghanis, since they all migrated from Pakistan Balochistan.

Said all this, no doubt Bharat still would have extended Akhand Bharat. With help of Bharati pashtuns especially.

Nice try but the whole world knows they were Afghan just like the whole world knows you panjos were good cuckold soldiers for the british raj fighting their battles while they slept with your women.

[khushal]

Relations between Iran and Pakistan is also taking a low and presumably wont resuscitate as the Iranians simply don't trust or have any liking for Pak (middleast, Pakis reneging on the gas project etc.). I see an equation workable between India, Afghanistan and Iran and that the India and Afghan government are taking the Chahbahar port serious is prelude to that.

The pak corridor is fantasy.

http://thediplomat.com/2015/04/the-china-pakistan-economic-corridor-is-easier-said-than-done/

the goal is ta have access to central asia.

https://www.stratfor.com/analysis/china-and-central-asias-railroad-ambitions

[Khostai]

Soviets were not in Afghanistan for rebuilding like Americans are doing now. They were literary eliminating Afghanis, especially pashtuns. 1.5 million afghani civilians were killed and many more millions displaced, mostly pashtuns. I think that war is the main reason why Afghani pashtuns now are minorty in Afghanistan.

[tilla_jogian]

Nice try but the whole world knows they were Afghan just like the whole world knows you panjos were good cuckold soldiers for the british raj fighting their battles while they slept with your women.

Sorry mr but they were ancient Pakistanis not afkonis, now burn like typical afgayni.