Walking Away or Ignoring Afghanistan is not an Option for India

[tripledouble]

India is a neighbour country of Afghanistan.

lool where's the border? using ur logic then Nepal is Pakistan's neighbor

India investing in Afghanistan is an indication of the emergence of a strategic alliance between India, Afghanistan,

haha i been hearing about such alliance since 2001 now what?alliance not efficient if pakistan not partner

and to a great degree also Bangladesh

um no, they're not factoring here at all, ur trying to make the billi happy meknows

all of whom are concerned about the threat emanating from Purisistan.

haha you abuse ur own country Parachay, if they scare of threat from pakistan then they pussy.

Most likely the alliance in future will be joined by Iran and Central Asian states and supported by Russia and possibly reluctantly also by China who equally fear the terrorist threat from Pakistan.

looool keep dreaming, world no revolve around afkoonistan

As for 30th state, that may be the aim of China which recently signed huge investment deals in Pakistan. Some Western media are already hinting that.

China is very advanced country with lots of wealth and secularism, wouldn't mind chinese influence, but we are not beygairat as afghanis, so won't merge with cheenis, afterall we have our own coast and population as much as Brazil, we don't need to be feeder state like afagistan

[tripledouble]

They really don't care about that and Pakistan will never do so since it is against their intersts. China will always support Pakistan because it wants to contain India as a viable economic rival. As long as Pakistan exists, the region will be more and more vulnerable to Chinese influence as China's economic power is growing exponentially.

at least china don't have history of invading countries unlike Bharat, cheenis only care about the money, Bharatis want to creat "Akhand Bharat" which include AFghanistan which is in their vedas, they want old rule of mauryas and hindu shahis; Chinese won't colonize any countries, at least west of it

[tilla_jogian]

They really don't care about that and Pakistan will never do so since it is against their intersts. China will always support Pakistan because it wants to contain India as a viable economic rival. As long as Pakistan exists, the region will be more and more vulnerable to Chinese influence as China's economic power is growing exponentially.

Pakistan is very lucky to have partner like China, no doubt both are best friends. Next month mining in Thar will start, this was Pakistani dream for decades but only China made it possible! I will list many decades old dreams of Pakistanis which are finally being worked on thanks to China.

1.) Dream of Karachi-Lahore-Peshawar motorway, China is making this possible!

2.) Upgradtion of Karachi-Peshawar railway track, bringing modern trains and improving speed to 120/kmh from current 70/kmh. This $3.8 billion investment will change face of Pakistan railways.

3.) Gwader port will finally be completed and connected with China and Central Asia. This was 50 years old dream!

4.) Railway track from Gwader to China!

And many more.... Pakistan is like dinosaur, you cut one leg and it will become useless for China.

[tilla_jogian]

at least china don't have history of invading countries unlike Bharat, cheenis only care about the money, Bharatis want to creat "Akhand Bharat" which include AFghanistan which is in their vedas, they want old rule of mauryas and hindu shahis; Chinese won't colonize any countries, at least west of it

What can you expect, when here people have username like Toramana and Kushan/Kanishka. Both hindu extremist kings.

[khushal]

bahaha Brits also created india, no india exist as country before brits came
r u serious?ur claiming Amreek and Britain are 'sustaining' Pakistan?Then why western media against Pakistan?why thy want to divide Pakistan?western media always talk crap about pakistan, if they are our supporters they should have nuclear deal with us, why nuke deal with india?why trade with india?they have free trade with bahrain but not Pakistan, they provide more aid to afghanistan but not Pakistan, they give nuke technolgy to India but not Pakistan, they give easy visas to Saudis but not Pakistan, your propaganda fails

You dont have to cry. Calm your gay panjabi arse down.
Amreek does not want a powerful or viable Pakistan, it just wants it to create headache for the region and keep it divided which is why it wants to contain it from the Afghan side but at the same time gives it Billions in Aid so it wont collapse. Amreek uses the Pakistani Military like a pitbull that guards central Asian resources from the Indian/Pak market so those resources would flow West instead of its natural destination which is South. Pitbulls are hard to control, so they feed you and at the same time keep you in chains. Amreek does not want Pak military to die since it is good to keep the region divided.

India can access central Asia by working with Pakistan, but of course that mean india can't become regional bully and must please Pakistan, so that's why they want balkanization

You are right and PM Sharif wanted to create free trade with India and Afghanistan but the Army prevented him from doing so. So the Army is the problem:

http://www.wsj.com/articles/pakistani-leader-sharif-nears-pact-with-military-1409186231

A nearly two-week confrontation between the administration and demonstrators, which the government believes are backed by the military, has put Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif under pressure.

Government aides said the military has seized on Mr. Sharif's weakened status during the political crisis to strike a deal in which he would leave strategic policy areas—including relations with the U.S., Afghanistan and India—to be controlled by the armed forces.

[Khostai]

They want to make Afghanistan there 30th state, that's why they donated billions of dollars to a country they don't even neighbor with instead spending that money on their own poor people

Only Pakis think like than. Why would India want Afghanistan as a 30th state when you said yourself they don't care about the country and it is not important to them. You don't want to invest or have good ties with a country where you have 0 interest in.

The chance is bigger that Pakistan will be a colony of China than Afghanistan of India. If USSR could not subdue us how the hell would India do it.

[khushal]

at least china don't have history of invading countries unlike Bharat, cheenis only care about the money, Bharatis want to creat "Akhand Bharat" which include AFghanistan which is in their vedas, they want old rule of mauryas and hindu shahis; Chinese won't colonize any countries, at least west of it

Right now, they are not because they can not. But once they are able to, then its a different story. Influence is bought with Wealth, as their wealth grows, so will their influence. Central Asian resources is going to be important to the West and the East(China) and Pak/India would be the losers since PAk is the regions enemy. Both China and Amreek are keeping Pakistan alive because they both know that if they keep the region divided, one of them will get the prize or they will share it but regardless, the region will be plundered by them.

[tilla_jogian]

Only Pakis think like than. Why would India want Afghanistan as a 30th state when you said yourself they don't care about the country and it is not important to them. You don't want to invest or have good ties with a country where you have 0 interest in.

The chance is bigger that Pakistan will be a colony of China than Afghanistan of India. If USSR could not subdue us how the hell would India do it.

USSR literary annihilated you before Pakis stepped in.

[khushal]

Only Pakis think like than. Why would India want Afghanistan as a 30th state when you said yourself they don't care about the country and it is not important to them. You don't want to invest or have good ties with a country where you have 0 interest in.

The chance is bigger that Pakistan will be a colony of China than Afghanistan of India. If USSR could not subdue us how the hell would India do it.

your a communist Khostai, You were assisting the USSR to subdue the country.

[Khostai]

USSR literary annihilated you before Pakis stepped in.

[tilla_jogian]

Soviets were not in Afghanistan for rebuilding like Americans are doing now. They were literary eliminating Afghanis, especially pashtuns. 1.5 million afghani civilians were killed and many more millions displaced, mostly pashtuns. I think that war is the main reason why Afghani pashtuns now are minorty in Afghanistan.

[Toramana]

They really don't care about that and Pakistan will never do so since it is against their intersts. China will always support Pakistan because it wants to contain India as a viable economic rival. As long as Pakistan exists, the region will be more and more vulnerable to Chinese influence as China's economic power is growing exponentially.

You have a truly one-dimensional perspective on this. Right now China and Russia are more concerned about the instability in the Asian landmass which mainly comprises of China, Russia(Russia being a Euroasian power), and India. This to a degree is also the concern of India.

China strategy is not as much India focused as it is West and US focused.

US is shifting 60% of its naval fleet to Asia-Pacific region by 2020 in order to contain China in Pacific and South-China Sea. Just read about Abe's recent visit to US. Moreover, it is also taking steps to contain the expansion of China's influence in Asia's rim region (ME, Iran, Pakistan, part of Central Asia). Don't forget that China's weakest spots are in its western part (Tibet, Xingiang) where it can be destabilized. Whereas sustained disturbance in Tibet may be a difficult undertaking for US, instability in Xingiang through Islamist militancy is an achievable aim (why instability in Kunduz and northern parts of Afghanistan?).

Right now US is encouraging Pakistan to fan militancy in AfPak region whereas China is pressuring and persuading it to give it up. Should the militant expansion threaten China and the broader Euroasia, China together with Russia will not hesitate to ditch Pakistan and manipulate the instability for their own strategic objectives.

[khushal]

USSR literary annihilated you before Pakis stepped in.

Afghans saved you just like the Wazir and Muhsud saved you from India. Panjabis cant fight for themselves, they only fight on orders from a white man which is why you guys were mercenaries for Brits all over the world, they used 2 million of you to fight their WW2 against Germany and Japan.

[Toramana]

The realization of this China-Punjab Corridor is also a difficult prospect now that the Punjabi lobby, i. e., Nawaz League and the army has made it a controversial project in the very beginning. Don't exclude the partnership between Baluch, Pashtuns, and people of Gilgit-Baltistan and the West in future whereas the West aim is to contain China's reach into the Persian Gulf and Indian Ocean and aim of the above group is to express their resentment.

The corridor is also becoming a second Kalabagh dam issue.

[Toramana]

Khushal, right now there are three theatres of the war of interests.

(1) East Europe and Caucuses
(2) the Greater Middle East (North-Africa to Central-South Asia)
(3) the Asia-Pacific and the South China Sea