Punjabis-where are your heroes, martyrs, and freedom fighters?

[Toramana]

We Pashtuns have a long list of heroes that stood for something no matter how deviant. Where are your heroes? People respect Sikhs because they are strong people with a sense of honour and with heroes like Baghat Singh in history.

Where do you stand by the way?

The only hero that you may take pride in is Nawaz Ganja. Am I right?

[Toramana]

One of Pashtun heroes is below.

Malala on Times’ 100 most influential people’s list



NEW YORK: Pakistan’ nobel laureate, education activist, Malala Yousafzai once again made it to the list of the Time Magazine’s 100 most influential people.

The list includes US President Barack Obama and India’s Prime Minister Narendra Modi.

Read: Malala youngest ever Nobel laureate

Mrs Hillary Clinton, Cuban leader Raul Castro, Presidential contender Jeb Bush, Judge Of US Supreme Court, Ruth Bader

Ginsburg and Pope Francis are also on the list.

Also read: Malala Yousafzai — future prime minister of Pakistan?

The Time Magazine said the list also includes Hollywood celebrities “some names you’d expect, it also features some that may surprise you: Kanye West, Kim Kardashian and Bradley Cooper among them”.

[Yousufzai]

Punjab has a lot of heroes, but you don't learn about them in the stupid history books they teach kids in Pakistan:

"Even if we limit ourselves to the Punjab alone—the center of military power—we don’t have to work too hard to unearth a rich history of resistance, from the famous warrior Dullah Bhatti who led a revolt against the Mughal emperor Akbar, the sufi poet Bulleh Shah who never hesitated in speaking truth to power, the young anti-imperialist hero and Marxist revolutionary Bhagat Singh to the Anjuman Mazarin-i Punjab (AMP) of today who have stood up to no less a force than the Pakistani military."

Source: http://www.tanqeed.org/2013/05/notes...y-of-pakistan/

[tripledouble]

Nawaz Sharif isn't even Punjabi, he is kashmiri migrant like Iqbal

Raheel Sharif can be considered a brave Punjabi here.

Rashid Minhas and Major Raja Aziz Bhatti gave their lives fighting India

My here is my fellow tribesman, ayub khan, but were not Punjabi

[tripledouble]

Learn about Gakhars of Punjab who resisted afghan invaders and nawab khudadad khan of kalabagh who also has history of resistance against Afghani invaders

[Smarty]

Learn about Gakhars of Punjab who resisted afghan invaders and nawab khudadad khan of kalabagh who also has history of resistance against Afghani invaders

Care to explain the details of history of nawab of kalabagh and his "heroic" resistance against Afghani invaders. The awans of Kalabagh were nobodies before arrival of Sikhs. They joined Sikh forces against Niazis of Isa khel, who put up a heroic resistance, and were rewarded for loyalty to their sikh kinsmen. Later they betrayed sikhs and supported british. There were no "nawabs" of kalabagh during durrani period, part of mianwali was under ghakkars who were expelled by niazis in a battle. Before 1947, Nawabs of Isa khel were prominent but because of ayub khan, nawab of kalabagh earned the name and reputation.

[Smarty]

Punjab has a lot of heroes, but you don't learn about them in the stupid history books they teach kids in Pakistan:

"Even if we limit ourselves to the Punjab alone—the center of military power—we don’t have to work too hard to unearth a rich history of resistance, from the famous warrior Dullah Bhatti who led a revolt against the Mughal emperor Akbar, the sufi poet Bulleh Shah who never hesitated in speaking truth to power, the young anti-imperialist hero and Marxist revolutionary Bhagat Singh to the Anjuman Mazarin-i Punjab (AMP) of today who have stood up to no less a force than the Pakistani military."

Source: http://www.tanqeed.org/2013/05/notes...y-of-pakistan/

Oh bhai, dullah bhatti didnt lead any army against Mughals. He was a bandit, is described as Robinhood type dacoit, who was captured and hanged by Mughals for his crimes. He didnt lead any national resistance or war of independence, just a legendary bandit who avoided capturing by mughal authorities for long and people claim that he was a good bandit.

[Smarty]

The most noticeable person from Punjab who heroically fought against Sikhs, happens to be an Afghan, a Sadozai, nawab muzafar khan sadozai (muzafar garh district of punjab is named after him). He was governor of multan and successfully repelled numerous sikh invasions and attempt of capturing multan from 1801 to 1817 without arrival of help from kabul . In the last battle, he along with his 6 sons and three thousands of afghan soldiers died fighting. Seraiki literature mentions him as a hero.

[Smarty]

The only punjabi tribe, which were given importance and place in army by Mughals, were ghakkars of Potohar. They were loyal to Lodhi empire before 1526 but switched their loyalty to Babur and humayun. Like khattaks, they provided contingents to mughals for expeditions against yusufzais. Their influence and power declined after decay of mughal empire in 18th century.

[Yousufzai]

Oh bhai, dullah bhatti didnt lead any army against Mughals. He was a bandit, is described as Robinhood type dacoit, who was captured and hanged by Mughals for his crimes. He didnt lead any national resistance or war of independence, just a legendary bandit who avoid capturing by mughal authorities for long and people claim that he was a good bandit.

I don't even know who he is, I just posted the link. But I think "bandit" is a pretty subjective term. I remember reading somewhere that the British would call the Bugti fighters who attacked them bandits also.

And I don't see what's wrong with a Robin Hood kinda figure, anyway. If he took from the Mughals and gave to the poor, that makes him a hero in my book.

[Smarty]

I don't even know who he is, I just posted the link. But I think "bandit" is a pretty subjective term. I remember reading somewhere that the British would call the Bugti fighters who attacked them bandits also.

And I don't see what's wrong with a Robin Hood kinda figure, anyway. If he took from the Mughals and gave to the poor, that makes him a hero in my book.

He may not be a Robinhood at all but just a famous "dako" who successfully avoided the mughal authorities who had responsibility of law and order. His exploits are not document in history, but comes from poems, with obviously exaggerations

[Smarty]

Punjabis have a noble prize winner for physics who they didnt respect. Dr. Abdul salam (a qadiani)

[Toramana]

I don't even know who he is, I just posted the link. But I think "bandit" is a pretty subjective term. I remember reading somewhere that the British would call the Bugti fighters who attacked them bandits also.

And I don't see what's wrong with a Robin Hood kinda figure, anyway. If he took from the Mughals and gave to the poor, that makes him a hero in my book.

I agree with Yousafzai here. Usually the ruling powers label freedom fighters as criminals to de-legitimize their struggle.

[Smarty]

I agree with Yousafzai here. Usually the ruling powers label freedom fighters as criminals to de-legitimize their struggle.

Still he is called social bandit. His life story revolves around banditry.

[tilla_jogian]

We Pashtuns have a long list of heroes that stood for something no matter how deviant. Where are your heroes? People respect Sikhs because they are strong people with a sense of honour and with heroes like Baghat Singh in history.

Where do you stand by the way?

The only hero that you may take pride in is Nawaz Ganja. Am I right?

Bhai mere Porus, Baghat Singh, ranjeet singh and Hari singh nalwa are considered ancient Pakistanis as well.