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  • Stockholm syndrome

    First let's look at what Stockhold syndrome is:
    Stockholm syndrome, or capture-bonding, is a psychological phenomenon in which hostages express empathy and sympathy and have positive feelings toward their captors, sometimes to the point of defending and identifying with the captors.

    I have seen numerous time on this forum that a member ghumbasa brings this up in her argumentation whenever she is having a debate. This is especially used against pro Afghan members. Members that are from the Pakistani side of durand line and who want's freedom.

    Apparently we are hostages and express empathy and sympathy and have positive feelings toward our captors, sometimes to the point of defending and identifying with our captors - apparently she believes we are taken hostage by Afghans.

    "If we look at history all our leaders from this side of durand line want a separation from Pakistan! You go ask the leadership of ANP and all of them will say they would love to separate from Pakistan. Go ask Mehmood Khan Achakzai he will answer the same - Of course they won't say this publicly because then they would be put in jails like Bacha Khan Baba, Ghani Khan and thousands of others. Bacha Khan baba even requested to be buried in Jalalabad because he did not want to be put to rest on occupataid land.

    Watch this. No better leader in modern Pashtun history then Bacha Khan:

    Listen to his last words.
    "Ma sara da wada wokay"
    "Che Mung pa koshish kawo da Pakhtun da youwali"
    Now don't come and tell me he is not Pashtun, but Afghanistani... Btw it's Afghan"

    (Taken from Jamaludin in the other thread, Liked it very much. Well put)



    It is so ironic because reality is the exact opposite!

    No one can deny that we belonged to one country - Afghanistan! The british separated us and promised to give us back to Afghanistan after 100 years!

    So in our case we are Hostages and the captor is Pakistan and Ghumbasa and many others have developed empathy and sympathy and have positive feelings toward this captor Pakistan and to the point that they defend and identify themselves with the captors.

    So ghumbasa don't use the Stockhold syndrome in the wrong context anymore.
    Last edited by PathanAfridi; 12-23-2014, 09:03 PM.
    "Za Yam Zmaray Per Dai Narhi Lama Attal Nishta..Pa Hind-o-Sindh-o-Pa Takhar-Pa Kabul Nishta,Bal Pa Zabul Nishta..."

  • #2
    Originally posted by PathanAfridi View Post
    First let's look at what Stockhold syndrome is:
    Stockholm syndrome, or capture-bonding, is a psychological phenomenon in which hostages express empathy and sympathy and have positive feelings toward their captors, sometimes to the point of defending and identifying with the captors.

    I have seen numerous time on this forum that a member ghumbasa brings this up in her argumentation whenever she is having a debate. This is especially used against pro Afghan members. Members that are from the Pakistani side of durand line and who want's freedom.

    Apparently we are hostages and express empathy and sympathy and have positive feelings toward our captors, sometimes to the point of defending and identifying with our captors - apparently she believes we are taken hostage by Afghans.

    "If we look at history all our leaders from this side of durand line want a separation from Pakistan! You go ask the leadership of ANP and all of them will say they would love to separate from Pakistan. Go ask Mehmood Khan Achakzai he will answer the same - Of course they won't say this publicly because then they would be put in jails like Bacha Khan Baba, Ghani Khan and thousands of others. Bacha Khan baba even requested to be buried in Jalalabad because he did not want to be put to rest on occupataid land.

    Watch this. No better leader in modern Pashtun history then Bacha Khan:

    Listen to his last words.
    "Ma sara da wada wokay"
    "Che Mung pa koshish kawo da Pakhtun da youwali"
    Now don't come and tell me he is not Pashtun, but Afghanistani... Btw it's Afghan"

    (Taken from Jamaludin in the other thread, Liked it very much. Well put)



    It is so ironic because reality is the exact opposite!

    No one can deny that we belonged to one country - Afghanistan! The british separated us and promised to give us back to Afghanistan after 100 years!

    So in our case we are Hostages and the captor is Pakistan and Ghumbasa and many others have developed empathy and sympathy and have positive feelings toward this captor Pakistan and to the point that they defend and identify themselves with the captors.

    So ghumbasa don't use the Stockhold syndrome in the wrong context anymore.
    Bacha khan was not a prophet.Our prophet mohammad saww had warned us of nationalism.I prefer prophet mohammad sawwwords over bacha khan

    Stockholm definition implies to INVADED countries not to freed states.Afg has literal presence of americans.
    sigpic"When it is said to them: "Make not mischief on the earth," they say: "Why, we only Want to make peace!" (2.11)

    And when it is said to them (hypocrites): "Believe as the people (followers of Muhammad Peace be upon him , Al-Ansar and Al-Muhajirun) have believed," they say: "Shall we believe as the fools have believed?" Verily, they are the fools, but they know not."(2.13)

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    • #3
      Though i believe pakistan too has yet to free from imperialism of old brits.And for this...khilafa is best to be established in pakistan,Afghanistan,india and bangladesh.That just subcontinental side.ME and turkey,bosnia etc on other sides.
      sigpic"When it is said to them: "Make not mischief on the earth," they say: "Why, we only Want to make peace!" (2.11)

      And when it is said to them (hypocrites): "Believe as the people (followers of Muhammad Peace be upon him , Al-Ansar and Al-Muhajirun) have believed," they say: "Shall we believe as the fools have believed?" Verily, they are the fools, but they know not."(2.13)

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      • #4
        When literal presence of oppressive force with on going oppression doesnt stop someone from worshipping their govts and its policies...this is stockholm.I see many members praising afg govt to the level of insanity.Unlike us who defend only civilans not govt.
        sigpic"When it is said to them: "Make not mischief on the earth," they say: "Why, we only Want to make peace!" (2.11)

        And when it is said to them (hypocrites): "Believe as the people (followers of Muhammad Peace be upon him , Al-Ansar and Al-Muhajirun) have believed," they say: "Shall we believe as the fools have believed?" Verily, they are the fools, but they know not."(2.13)

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        • #5
          Originally posted by ghumbasa View Post
          Bacha khan was not a prophet.Our prophet mohammad saww had warned us of nationalism.I prefer prophet mohammad sawwwords over bacha khan

          Stockholm definition implies to INVADED countries not to freed states.Afg has literal presence of americans.
          And yes your wine gulping pork eating Jannah was a prophet because like a monkey you have been groomed into believing that.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Toramana View Post
            And yes your wine gulping pork eating Jannah was a prophet because like a monkey you have been groomed into believing that.
            You can call him names to ease your frustration.But he is not in our inspiration list.Aww getting angry and name calling.Truth hurts.
            sigpic"When it is said to them: "Make not mischief on the earth," they say: "Why, we only Want to make peace!" (2.11)

            And when it is said to them (hypocrites): "Believe as the people (followers of Muhammad Peace be upon him , Al-Ansar and Al-Muhajirun) have believed," they say: "Shall we believe as the fools have believed?" Verily, they are the fools, but they know not."(2.13)

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Toramana View Post
              And yes your wine gulping pork eating Jannah was a prophet because like a monkey you have been groomed into believing that.
              Don't insult her. She is married 44 years old.
              “Pakistan, which plays a key role in Asia, is so famous for treachery that it is said they can get milk from a bull. They have two tongues in one mouth, and two faces on one head so they can speak everybody’s language; they use everybody, deceive everybody.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by ghumbasa View Post
                Bacha khan was not a prophet.Our prophet mohammad saww had warned us of nationalism.I prefer prophet mohammad sawwwords over bacha khan

                Stockholm definition implies to INVADED countries not to freed states.Afg has literal presence of americans.
                That is absolutely bull****!

                If you were that religious you do be hanging on an Islamic forum rather then on a nationalistic forum like this one.
                “Pakistan, which plays a key role in Asia, is so famous for treachery that it is said they can get milk from a bull. They have two tongues in one mouth, and two faces on one head so they can speak everybody’s language; they use everybody, deceive everybody.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by ghumbasa View Post
                  Bacha khan was not a prophet.Our prophet mohammad saww had warned us of nationalism.I prefer prophet mohammad sawwwords over bacha khan

                  Stockholm definition implies to INVADED countries not to freed states.Afg has literal presence of americans.
                  but it's pakistan who sucks on oncle sam's dingdong and receive lots of money in return for supporting killer
                  faye's chauffeur

                  Pashton's girlfriend

                  I'm a Pashtun Princes


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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Hallo View Post
                    but it's pakistan who sucks on oncle sam's dingdong and receive lots of money in return for supporting killer
                    Its still spy vs spy wars going on in between.Unlike afg.
                    sigpic"When it is said to them: "Make not mischief on the earth," they say: "Why, we only Want to make peace!" (2.11)

                    And when it is said to them (hypocrites): "Believe as the people (followers of Muhammad Peace be upon him , Al-Ansar and Al-Muhajirun) have believed," they say: "Shall we believe as the fools have believed?" Verily, they are the fools, but they know not."(2.13)

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by kunar1990 View Post
                      That is absolutely bull****!

                      If you were that religious you do be hanging on an Islamic forum rather then on a nationalistic forum like this one.
                      I ve been to many forums.Yeah i am still on islamic forums.My choice.
                      sigpic"When it is said to them: "Make not mischief on the earth," they say: "Why, we only Want to make peace!" (2.11)

                      And when it is said to them (hypocrites): "Believe as the people (followers of Muhammad Peace be upon him , Al-Ansar and Al-Muhajirun) have believed," they say: "Shall we believe as the fools have believed?" Verily, they are the fools, but they know not."(2.13)

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by kunar1990 View Post
                        Don't insult her. She is married 44 years old.
                        what? proove it!
                        then she should spend her time with their children and maybe grandchildren adn increase their knowledge then to be her on pf
                        but wait no it's better she spends her time on pf because then she has got less time to put all the **** in the mind of her relatives!
                        faye's chauffeur

                        Pashton's girlfriend

                        I'm a Pashtun Princes


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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by ghumbasa View Post
                          Its still spy vs spy wars going on in between.Unlike afg.
                          iran vs saudi (supported by usa)
                          and you still dont get it that paksitan is jsut used by saudi and usa
                          faye's chauffeur

                          Pashton's girlfriend

                          I'm a Pashtun Princes


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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Hallo View Post
                            iran vs saudi (supported by usa)
                            and you still dont get it that paksitan is jsut used by saudi and usa
                            You still dont get that i dont support govts but innocent civilians.If pakistan govt could ease up our one enemy iran or afg uzbek hazara....we ...the supporters of khilafa ll deal with others later...including corrupt politicians of pak.Its like we are learning tactics from west.Divide and rule.Its just that subtly we are waiting for our right time.
                            Let the empires and govts clashes at cost of their resources and blood...play their rules on them.
                            sigpic"When it is said to them: "Make not mischief on the earth," they say: "Why, we only Want to make peace!" (2.11)

                            And when it is said to them (hypocrites): "Believe as the people (followers of Muhammad Peace be upon him , Al-Ansar and Al-Muhajirun) have believed," they say: "Shall we believe as the fools have believed?" Verily, they are the fools, but they know not."(2.13)

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                            • #15
                              Sooner or later pashtuns are gonna face hardships with more intensity...roughly few years are left.But its in this time they can prepare themselves morally and faithfully.
                              Destiny of pashtuns is known in many scriptures...yet they hide it [MENTION=5349]Hallo[/MENTION]....what do you say?
                              sigpic"When it is said to them: "Make not mischief on the earth," they say: "Why, we only Want to make peace!" (2.11)

                              And when it is said to them (hypocrites): "Believe as the people (followers of Muhammad Peace be upon him , Al-Ansar and Al-Muhajirun) have believed," they say: "Shall we believe as the fools have believed?" Verily, they are the fools, but they know not."(2.13)

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