This Is What Winning Looks Like

[Yousufzai]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ja5Q75hf6QI

A disturbing documentary about the ineptitude, drug abuse, sexual misconduct, and corruption of US-supported Afghan security forces. Very scary to see security forces openly talking about molesting little boys, and the completely incompetent foreign advisers just watching it all.

[ghumbasa]

I had posted about it before in a certain thread...Nobody looks at the corruption of nds.The only legitimate officers i see are pashtuns...that too few.These hazara uzbeks themselves are in need of psychological and medical treatment.They themselves are abused how would they secure civilians.
West themselves have bad history of wars with opium.Brits used to put chinese whole nation on opium...

[Yousufzai]

The guy at the end gets it right:

"We all know the game is up. All you hear now is, 'It's a success because 75, 50, 90% of the country is now in the hands of the Afghan security forces'. Let's not talk about what those security forces are like, let's now talk about their behavior. The fact that they're in the lead and we're coming home is a success. And the Taliban attacks are up, civilian casualties are up, the fatalities for Afghan soldiers and police are up, 310 [casualties] a month is the latest estimate every month. If that's not civil war already, then I don't know what is. And you get the impression these guys [Afghan security forces] aren't gonna last either, certainly when they're on their own. I spoke to a few Afghan friends who come from here and asked, 'What do you think will happen to these guys after we really leave', they said half will join the Taliban and the other half will just vanish. A lot of people are saying it hasn't worked the way we wanted it to in Afghanistan... they're blaming it on the Afghans, that they always fight each other, that it's just tribal rivalries. I don't think that's true at all. There was a chance we could have done it right but we put the worst people straight back into power after the bombing campaign... it's our fault that it hasn't worked out now."

[Azmal]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ja5Q75hf6QI

A disturbing documentary about the ineptitude, drug abuse, sexual misconduct, and corruption of US-supported Afghan security forces. Very scary to see security forces openly talking about molesting little boys, and the completely incompetent foreign advisers just watching it all.

That’s sad but doesn't you think same thing doesn't happen in Madrassah? Do you see the documentary molestation of young boys.
What i found funny is how Mullah ghumbasa praised those western reports that he can use for his Pakistani agenda but will question and call the reports against Pakistan and her lapdogs as western propaganda.

[Yousufzai]

That’s sad but doesn't you think same thing doesn't happen in Madrassah? Do you see the documentary molestation of young boys.

Yeah, but one side doing it doesn't justify the other side's crime. Everyone knows how bad the Taliban are, but not a lot of people know the truth about Western-backed Afghan security forces. These guys are thugs, nothing else. The same kind of people who completely destroyed Afghanistan during the early '90s.

[ghumbasa]

That’s sad but doesn't you think same thing doesn't happen in Madrassah? Do you see the documentary molestation of young boys.
What i found funny is how Mullah ghumbasa praised those western reports that he can use for his Pakistani agenda but will question and call the reports against Pakistan and her lapdogs as western propaganda.

I use some sourceif info against kaffirs because atleast likes of you wont ve objection that the source is paki which you dont like.Btw..there are honest western journalists,searchers and writers too.

Tell me exactly where have i supported pak govt? I do support innocents in pak though.There were such madrassas now destroyed.But not all madrasas were like what you are claiming.Besides...extremist elements were introduced by books introduced in texas.

[ghumbasa]

http://www.worldpoliticsreview.com/articles/10449/war-and-drugs-in-afghanistan

Wars and drugs in Afghanistan


Since 2001, Afghanistan has become synonymous with the term “narcostate” and the associated spread of crime and illegality. Though the Afghan drug economy peaked in 2007 and 2008, cultivation this year still amounted to 325,000 acres, and the*potential production of opium reached 6,400 tons*(.pdf). Narcotics production and counternarcotics policies in Afghanistan are of critical importance not only for drug control there and worldwide, but also for the security, reconstruction and rule of law efforts in Afghanistan. Unfortunately, many of the counternarcotics policies adopted during most of the past decade not only failed to reduce the size and scope of the illicit economy in Afghanistan, but also had serious counterproductive effects on the other objectives of peace, state-building and economic reconstruction.*

In a courageous break with 30 years of counternarcotics policies that focused on ineffective, forced eradication of illicit crops as a way to reduce supply of drugs and bankrupt belligerents, the Obama administration wisely decided in 2009 to scale back eradication in Afghanistan and prioritize interdiction and rural development. But if security is not increased and stability not anchored in the country, both of which continue to be major question marks as of late-2011, poppies will continue to bloom in Afghanistan. ...

[ghumbasa]

Without drugs and bio weapons...wars cant be won easily...thats what they did in past in afg and iraq.

[ghumbasa]

http://inthesetimes.com/article/2670/the_iraq_war_on_drugs

The iraq war_on drugs

Wounded U.S. soldiers are being patched up and returned to battle before they are healed. The wounds in this case are to the psyche, caused by the trauma and horror that are as integral to war as guns and death.

In Iraq and Afghanistan, when “suck it up” fails to snap a soldier out of depression or panic, the Army turns to drugs. “Soldiers I talked to were receiving bags of antidepressants and sleeping meds in Iraq, but not the trauma care they needed,” says Steve Robinson, a Defense Department intelligence analyst during the Clinton administration.

Sometimes sleeping pills, antidepressants and tranquilizers are prescribed by qualified personnel. Sometimes not. Sgt. Georg Anderas Pogany told*Salonthat after he broke down in Iraq, his team sergeant told him “to pull himself together, gave him two Ambien, a prescription sleep aid, and ordered him to sleep.”

Other soldiers self-medicate. “We were so junked out on Valium, we had no emotions anymore,” Iraq vet John Crawford told “Fresh Air” host Terry Gross. He and others in his unit in Iraq became addicted to Valium.

The issues around mental health and medication are exacerbated for the more than 378,000 troops who have served multiple tours to Iraq and Afghanistan. Post traumatic stress disorders (PTSD) caused by a previous tour are cropping up in later ones.

“It concerns us when we hear military doctors say, ‘It’s wonderful that we have these drugs available to cope with second or third deployments,’” Joyce Raezer of the National Military Family Association told*In These Times.

“But that statement makes military spouses cringe,” she continues, “Soldiers are saying ‘we don’t have time to recover.’”

Marine psychiatrist Cmdr. Paul S. Hammer confirmed to*San Diego Union-Tribune*reporter Rick Rogers that Marines with PTSD are returning to Iraq.

In many cases, their problem is labeled stress. “Army docs have told me that commanders pressured them not to diagnose PTSD because it would cut into combat power–the ability to project men and women into war,” says Robinson. “The docs admit that the decision [to misdiagnose] is unethical, but are unwilling to take the huge career risk of becoming a whistle blower.”

“The military has an obligation to ensure your readiness,” says Raezer. “It is in its long-term benefit to have the person healthy.” But those goals may conflict with themselves and with reality. Ready for deployment is not the same as mentally healthy, and the army’s long-term interests smack hard against its need for warm bodies, no matter how dangerous continued action may be to an individual’s mental health.

All these factors promote that classic American solution: Better living through chemistry. When effective, antidepressants and sleeping pills can enable a soldier to get back in action–either from a huddle of terror and disgust, or increasingly, from back home to serve an additional tour.

But the use of brain-altering medications must be monitored for effectiveness and safety, which is beyond the Army’s capability in Iraq. The medications can take weeks to kick in, dangerously interact with other medications or fail to work at all. Side effects can include organ damage and thoughts of suicide.

But if the problem is bad for the occupying army, it is far worse for the Iraqi civilians, who have few medical resources and no end in sight to the constant fear and deprivation that occupation has brought.

“The [Iraqi] Ministry of Health says since the U.S. invasion there’s been a 35 percent jump in cases of post-traumatic stress disorder [in Iraqis],” reported NPR Baghdad correspondent Jamie Tarabay.

Keith Humphreys of U.S. Veterans Affairs documented a substantial rise in drug use in Iraq resulting from the terrible stress of daily life. Drugs that would require a prescription in the United States are available in drug stores and many Iraqis are turning to them for relief.

Former biology undergraduate Rorla Monere began taking sleeping pills to dull the pain and fear after witnessing the kidnapping of a close friend who was thrown into a car and later raped; a suicide car bomb left another of Monere’s close friends in a wheelchair. Afraid to go out, Monere stays at home, terrified that someone will storm the house.

“The pills don’t have any effect anymore,” she told NPR’s “Morning Edition,” “because I take so many of them. I just want my day to finish. I spend it alone. … My wish is to die, to be free and rest. Better than this slaughter.”

Some U.S. soldiers know how she feels. In a May 2 letter to Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, Sen. Barbara Boxer (D-Calif.) wrote, “Last year’s suicide rate was the highest since 1993. Eighty-three Army soldiers on active duty committed suicide, 25 while deployed to Iraq and Afghanistan–a 24 percent increase over the prior year. I find it simply astonishing that the sheer magnitude of the mental health crisis facing our Armed Forces does not compel you to action.”

[kunar1990]

no abusive language pls.
I deleted gumbassa,s posts

[ghumbasa]

Where is Hira Mandi?

kindly do,nt bring mothers etc here into this discusion

[kunar1990]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ja5Q75hf6QI

A disturbing documentary about the ineptitude, drug abuse, sexual misconduct, and corruption of US-supported Afghan security forces. Very scary to see security forces openly talking about molesting little boys, and the completely incompetent foreign advisers just watching it all.

Rome is not build in 1 day. I take time. You cannot expect things to be rosy in a country that has been i 40 years of war. 1 whole generation grew up illiterate.

What is the alternative to this Afghan government? The Taliban? Hehe that is like committing suicide!

Things will change slowly and steadily. Ashraf Ghani is a very good leader on paper for Afghanistan. He has clean hands and has never been involved in civil war or corruption. Give him time and see what happens. Slowly other will vanish as well. Before the election Fahim Marshall died of heart attack; A Nothern Alliance warlord, so time will wipe all of them away.

This is insulting that there are millions of Afghans who are working very honestly and are optimistic about there future, but the guys like ghumbasa comes and brings drug etc. and other negative reports to put Afghans Down. We are a nation of fighters. Most nation would have separated in pieces, but we are still standing! We love our country.

[kunar1990]

EXPANDED ACCESS TO EDUCATION
Education is the foundation for long-term development, and USAID assistance has significantly increased Afghans’
access to education. In 2002, only 900,000 boys were in school and virtually no girls. In 2014, there are eight million
students enrolled in school, and more than a third are girls. One million Afghan students attend school as a direct
result of USAID school construction, facility renovations, and the establishment of Community Based Schools, while
millions more primary grade students have benefitted from USAID support for new textbooks, teacher training, and
educational facilities. USAID has helped thousands of Afghan girls attend community-based education classes by
eliminating the need to travel long, sometimes dangerous distances. USAID has built or refurbished more than 560
schools and multiple teacher-training centers, produced and distributed more than 148 million textbooks, and helped
train more than 74,000 teachers. USAID support has helped the Ministry of Education and public universities manage
the growth in demand for education, boost academic quality, and create new higher education opportunities.
According to The Asia Foundation’s 2013 Survey of the Afghan People, 72 percent of Afghans are satisfied with the
availability of education for children.
For more results check:

http://www.usaid.gov/sites/default/files/documents/1871/Achievements%20in%20Afghanistan.pdf

[kunar1990]

Ask your mother.

no personnel attacks

[ghumbasa]

Rome is not build in 1 day. I take time. You cannot expect things to be rosy in a country that has been i 40 years of war. 1 whole generation grew up illiterate.

What is the alternative to this Afghan government? The Taliban? Hehe that is like committing suicide!

Things will change slowly and steadily. Ashraf Ghani is a very good leader on paper for Afghanistan. He has clean hands and has never been involved in civil war or corruption. Give him time and see what happens. Slowly other will vanish as well. Before the election Fahim Marshall died of heart attack; A Nothern Alliance warlord, so time will wipe all of them away.

This is insulting that there are millions of Afghans who are working very honestly and are optimistic about there future, but the guys like ghumbasa comes and brings drug etc. and other negative reports to put Afghans Down. We are a nation of fighters. Most nation would have separated in pieces, but we are still standing! We love our country.

You cant fight wars with victorieswithout faith and good intentions.You cant fight wars without brains either and it needs education...of both deen and dunya (Religious as well as science).Because either side will eat you up if you dont be cautious via extremism on both sides.Moderation is a narrow path difficult to grasp but once in grasp...linger on it...

I am trying best to cover topics and factors that made our failures and you cant see it and take it in negative side.Maturity is what you experience but wisdom is what you learn from others experiences.

And also likes of you lack patience.There is whole lot biochem war going on...you are picking on negativity by not paying attention to the problem.Drug war had happened befor in china.They were put to opium...then farmers rose to this opression.It happened in afg and iraq.And it ll happen if it comes to domination of dajjal s slaves.