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  • #16
    Originally posted by Khostai View Post
    So what happend to all the Islamic bortherhood and no discrimination in Islam? Nationalism was only for evil secularists, good Paki muslim never do such thing, but somehow they are going to expell thousands of people who are not only muslims but also belong to the same ethnic group. -_- Hypocracy at its finest. You pakis always show your true face, no matter what.
    Sorry but pakistan is destroyed by helping the so called muslims whom have never even tried to help Pakistan in its crisis except turkey even KSA has used Pakistan for its purpose.

    Pakistani pilots shot down 9 jets of israel airforce without a single loss,we participated in almost all the gulf countries wars but no one came to help us in our time of crisis.
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    • #17
      Originally posted by Da Bannu Mazdigar View Post
      All agreed,but our national language also is not punjabi but rather urdu.I hope you do recall the origin of urdu,which has no relation to any ethnicity in Pakistan except the mahajars though even if we dig out history,than it will prove they only have adopted urdu.Urdu is also not indigenous to them.

      Urdu is spoken by 8% of Pakistanis and 7% in Afghanistan
      I was beginning to respect you recently, but now you have gone to your inferiority complex again.

      A language doesn't pop-up from thin air. It has history and relation. Urdu is basically hindi with a bit mixture of persian. So it do indeed have relation with ethnicity, unfortunately non with Pashto. That being said, I honestly don't care if you speak it or not, but I do care when someone doesn't accepts fact.

      Urdu is national language of Pakistan and is taught in all provinces of Pakistan from very young age. No offense, but right now you yourself is implying that all Pakistanis are retards.
      Back to facts, as bar minimum at least 95 % of Pakistani population speaks Urdu.
      In Afghanistan there is zero percent who speaks Urdu as first language, but there is indeed some who have learned it.

      Just to make it clear, I honestly don't care about Pakistan and what language, culture etc. you value, but don't pretend Pakistan is Pashtunistan.
      You can A) Accept Pakistan for what it is
      B) Dislike the concept of Pakistan

      But do not go around and fabricate facts, and pretend Pakistan is something its not.
      Don't quote me or speak to me if you hate Afghanistan, you be ignored.

      People with identity crisis will be ignored as well.

      ''When you cant make them see the light, make them feel the heat''
      Ronald Reagan

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7cmZyOrUA0

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QC9sz0nPePI

      Pashto dictionary:
      http://thepashto.com/index.php

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Da Bannu Mazdigar View Post
        The Red line is the original Durrand line partition boundry of Afghanistan.But Afghanistan security forces captured the land back in 1897 and 1914.

        The part ANA destroyed last year was part of the invasion.they can't do a **** about fences the existing border

        I do not know from which Pakistani picture book you have taken this from, but the current border is the Durand line. You can look at the British maps from that time as well.

        Inferiority complex at it finest....
        Don't quote me or speak to me if you hate Afghanistan, you be ignored.

        People with identity crisis will be ignored as well.

        ''When you cant make them see the light, make them feel the heat''
        Ronald Reagan

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7cmZyOrUA0

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QC9sz0nPePI

        Pashto dictionary:
        http://thepashto.com/index.php

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Kushan Prince View Post
          LOL you're more delusional then i thought khar, kunar becoming part of pakistan? not even in your wildest dreams is that even possible. The Kunari's hate pakistan with a passion since the pak army is bombing them everyday. What makes you think they will want to join an artifical state?

          I always pray that pakistan will be paritioned again, so we can get our land back.
          To get land,you have to fight as praying alone doesn't work.

          We fought 4 times for kashmir,lost east Pakistan and on the brink of another war in near future.We have forced india,a much bigger country to consider LOC as International border.And as per various source's if Pakistan would not have invaded kargil,India was almost ready with give and take concept of Kashmir.

          We have f***ed up our country for kashmir but we are not backing up.hell kashmir has become 2nd to our religion only.

          we are doing this for a land with no resources and only mountains.So for you have to take a strategic land like pashtun regions of Pakistan,which also will give you a huge chunk of arable land,you have to fight beginning today.

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          As i said in the other thread,Pakistan no way will merge even an inch of part of Afghanistan if it also include the people of Afghanistan.It will kill the concept of pakistaniat.

          So,Pakistan is only looking toward tall and big,wide,mined fences
          "[B][SIZE="3"]Seer Speen Wazeer[/SIZE][/B]"

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          • #20
            1. Pakistani nationalists like to claim that Pakistan was built for Islam.

            So why are they expelling Muslims from their homes and sending them somewhere else?

            Why are they uprooting them and dislocating them and disrupting if not destroying their entire lives?



            2. Pakistanis in 1971 chose ethnicity before Islam.

            Bengalis were Muslim but they were "racially inferior", so Pakistanis refused to allow a Bengali to be leader and carried out a war of genocide which they lost.



            3. Pakistan has problems with its Muslim neighbours, the "Islamic Republic of Iran" and the "Islamic Republic of Afghanistan", as well as issues with Muslim Bangladesh whom it continues to harass and cause problems for till this day.



            4. The Saudi and Turkish support for Pakistan is strong. The Turks support is more verbal and emotional but they provide very real support compared to the Saudis who have provided billions of dollars worth of support.

            However Saudi Arabia and Turkey can support Pakistan in its unislamic activities and oppression of Muslims.

            However as we saw in 1971 truth and justice will ultimately prevail.

            Saudi Arabia supported the Pakistani genocide of Bengalis in 1971 heavily and till this day they have a deep hatred for Bangladesh but ultimately we defeated the Saudi regime in 1971 and our existence every day as an independent and free state is a cause of pain for the Saudi regime.



            Faisal Al-Saud, his regime worked hard to strangle Bangladesh at its birth but failed, to this day his regime continues to carry out economic sanctions against Bangladesh and organize police harassment and violence against Bangladeshi workers in Saudi Arabia.

            Unfortunately for him and his regime, Bangladesh is independent.
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            • #21
              Both Pakis and Iran have issued similar threats in the past, usually to blackmail the Afghan government. Lets see what comes out of this.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by DSM0305 View Post
                I was beginning to respect you recently, but now you have gone to your inferiority complex again.

                A language doesn't pop-up from thin air. It has history and relation. Urdu is basically hindi with a bit mixture of persian. So it do indeed have relation with ethnicity, unfortunately non with Pashto. That being said, I honestly don't care if you speak it or not, but I do care when someone doesn't accepts fact.

                Urdu is national language of Pakistan and is taught in all provinces of Pakistan from very young age. No offense, but right now you yourself is implying that all Pakistanis are retards.
                Back to facts, as bar minimum at least 95 % of Pakistani population speaks Urdu.
                In Afghanistan there is zero percent who speaks Urdu as first language, but there is indeed some who have learned it.

                Just to make it clear, I honestly don't care about Pakistan and what language, culture etc. you value, but don't pretend Pakistan is Pashtunistan.
                You can A) Accept Pakistan for what it is
                B) Dislike the concept of Pakistan

                But do not go around and fabricate facts, and pretend Pakistan is something its not.
                osba ta ta hum lecture darkum?khudey ta gora,za ham insan ya,karoona tha patey di :D
                "[B][SIZE="3"]Seer Speen Wazeer[/SIZE][/B]"

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Da Bannu Mazdigar View Post
                  Sorry but pakistan is destroyed by helping the so called muslims whom have never even tried to help Pakistan in its crisis except turkey even KSA has used Pakistan for its purpose.

                  Pakistani pilots shot down 9 jets of israel airforce without a single loss,we participated in almost all the gulf countries wars but no one came to help us in our time of crisis.
                  de ta pa pukhto ke waye ''kakha''

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                  • #24
                    1. I don't know if you even are a Pashtun or even been to these areas, but many family lives divided by the border. Many tribes lives on both sides. The people will never accept fencing and dividing them further. And no your Harami Army is not so strong to keep the people down. The Peshawar School attack was a result of the Harami Army killing innocent kids in their operation. It was not ideological attack! It only served the purpose of revenge and to show them they cannot get away with killing innocent kids. Ask the Harami army and they would say there has been 0 innocent people killed in their current operation, but in reality they killed lots of innocent people.

                    2. Both side has to agree to fencing it. You cannot just fence international border without both side agreement.

                    3.It's almost 2500 km border. Good luck at patrolling that. And you will mine it? Hahahaha what about all the innocent people that will die because of that?

                    This all is deliberate politics from Pakistan army. This is to divide pashtuns further. Don't you think they are aware of our history and the fact that we are one people? They are afraid of the fact that it is only a matter of time before we ask to be united. It is not secret that Pakistan Harami army has been cooperating with Taliban, supporting them and training them and giving them target. They don't want peace in Afghanistan because then separatist movement will flourish.

                    Look at Balochistan. Conduct a pool 98% will ask to separate from Pakistan. And just look at all the Balochis your Harami army has killed as a result of that. The people in Balochistan despise the army and Pakistan. The same will be the case when the Pashtun wake up, but unfortunately we lack education and those who got has been fed fake history by Pakistani schools.
                    Last edited by kunar1990; 12-20-2014, 09:16 AM.
                    “Pakistan, which plays a key role in Asia, is so famous for treachery that it is said they can get milk from a bull. They have two tongues in one mouth, and two faces on one head so they can speak everybody’s language; they use everybody, deceive everybody.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Da Bannu Mazdigar View Post
                      To get land,you have to fight as praying alone doesn't work.

                      We fought 4 times for kashmir,lost east Pakistan and on the brink of another war in near future.We have forced india,a much bigger country to consider LOC as International border.And as per various source's if Pakistan would not have invaded kargil,India was almost ready with give and take concept of Kashmir.

                      We have f***ed up our country for kashmir but we are not backing up.hell kashmir has become 2nd to our religion only.

                      we are doing this for a land with no resources and only mountains.So for you have to take a strategic land like pashtun regions of Pakistan,which also will give you a huge chunk of arable land,you have to fight beginning today.

                      ==================
                      As i said in the other thread,Pakistan no way will merge even an inch of part of Afghanistan if it also include the people of Afghanistan.It will kill the concept of pakistaniat.

                      So,Pakistan is only looking toward tall and big,wide,mined fences

                      Luchaka, Pakistan has proven throughout its history that it can't win wars. Its like america, they like to start wars but never win and always claim false victories. You think you won in kashmir? think again, the millitants backed down there because the pak army is not worth it. You lost to Bengalis in in the 70s and you will lose to india if you ever declare war on them. This attack on the millitary school was apparently a big blow to Pakistan, and i bet sharif is craping his pants whether to send more troops into waziristan or not after this tradegy.

                      As i said in the other thread,Pakistan no way will merge even an inch of part of Afghanistan if it also include the people of Afghanistan.It will kill the concept of pakistaniat.
                      I beg to differ. Mahmood Achkzai and the pashtun nationalist party are the biggest hope for bar pashtuns and your hugest nightmare. The more they grow in numbers for supporters, the more closer pakistan is to a parition.
                      "Revenge is a dish best served cold".

                      -Old Pashtun proverb




                      "My Pashtun Pride i will not hide!"

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                      • #26
                        1. Even if Pakistan expelled Muslims i.e. Afghans from their homes including Afghan children born in "Pakistan" and who know nothing but that country, Pakistan is still in a mess.

                        2. There are religious extremists and fanatics everywhere in that country including in the Punjab.

                        - In the 1990s Punjabi Sunni militants used to murder and massacre "infidel" Shias i.e. the Sipah i Sahaba terrorist group.

                        - The Deobandis and Barelvis hate each other.


                        3. The country with its limited economy and resources is having a huge population explosion, now at around 0.2 billion people (i.e. 200 million) but heading for more.

                        Every day people migrate from the countryside to the violent and strained city of Karachi, perhaps 20 million people, for work.

                        How long can this continue?


                        4. The army controls Pakistan but it is a Punjabi nationalist organization which fools a few ignorant "Pathans" and others that they are a pan-Pakistani nationalist organization when everyone knows they are Punjabi nationalists.

                        For them Pakhtunkhwa, Balochistan and Karachi are all secondary and what matters to them foremost is the peace and stability of northern Punjab i.e. Lahore, Faisalabad, Rawalpindi etc.

                        They can do this but sooner or later the various pressures and dynamics of Pakistan will cause yet again another 1971 style collapse.



                        5. Even in Pakistan were to still stay intact for the next decade, certain Punjabis won't be happy as it means Pashtun mass migration in to Punjab and Karachi. Some Punjabis are already complaining of Pashtun migrants to Lahore e.g. they are exclusivist, and have aggressive/dominant behaviour (i.e. bully Indic Punjabis).



                        The country is a mess and a failed terrorist state.



                        Afghanistan is a large country (far larger than Bangladesh for example) but with a relatively small population and once war is ended it can prosper.
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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Da Bannu Mazdigar View Post
                          osba ta ta hum lecture darkum?khudey ta gora,za ham insan ya,karoona tha patey di :D
                          Za po'nasweem ce te che waye. De Pakhto grammar'de kha'neda.
                          Don't quote me or speak to me if you hate Afghanistan, you be ignored.

                          People with identity crisis will be ignored as well.

                          ''When you cant make them see the light, make them feel the heat''
                          Ronald Reagan

                          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7cmZyOrUA0

                          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QC9sz0nPePI

                          Pashto dictionary:
                          http://thepashto.com/index.php

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by DSM0305 View Post
                            Za po'nasweem ce te che waye. De Pakhto grammar'de kha'neda.
                            maa ta kho punjabay khkaari, laga dera pukhto ye ezda karre da, da cha na. na ye khoi da pukhtano dai aw na boi.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Khostai View Post
                              So what happend to all the Islamic bortherhood and no discrimination in Islam? Nationalism was only for evil secularists, good Paki muslim never do such thing, but somehow they are going to expell thousands of people who are not only muslims but also belong to the same ethnic group. -_- Hypocracy at its finest. You pakis always show your true face, no matter what.
                              Just like we ve hypocrites here so we ve hypocrites in our brotherhood pretending to be faithful but are sold outs.
                              Soldouts are everywhere...even among kaffirs whats the big deal.Infact hypocrites themselves are more divided than our brotherhood.
                              sigpic"When it is said to them: "Make not mischief on the earth," they say: "Why, we only Want to make peace!" (2.11)

                              And when it is said to them (hypocrites): "Believe as the people (followers of Muhammad Peace be upon him , Al-Ansar and Al-Muhajirun) have believed," they say: "Shall we believe as the fools have believed?" Verily, they are the fools, but they know not."(2.13)

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Bengal_Tiger View Post
                                1. Even if Pakistan expelled Muslims i.e. Afghans from their homes including Afghan children born in "Pakistan" and who know nothing but that country, Pakistan is still in a mess.

                                2. There are religious extremists and fanatics everywhere in that country including in the Punjab.

                                - In the 1990s Punjabi Sunni militants used to murder and massacre "infidel" Shias i.e. the Sipah i Sahaba terrorist group.

                                - The Deobandis and Barelvis hate each other.


                                3. The country with its limited economy and resources is having a huge population explosion, now at around 0.2 billion people (i.e. 200 million) but heading for more.

                                Every day people migrate from the countryside to the violent and strained city of Karachi, perhaps 20 million people, for work.

                                How long can this continue?


                                4. The army controls Pakistan but it is a Punjabi nationalist organization which fools a few ignorant "Pathans" and others that they are a pan-Pakistani nationalist organization when everyone knows they are Punjabi nationalists.

                                For them Pakhtunkhwa, Balochistan and Karachi are all secondary and what matters to them foremost is the peace and stability of northern Punjab i.e. Lahore, Faisalabad, Rawalpindi etc.

                                They can do this but sooner or later the various pressures and dynamics of Pakistan will cause yet again another 1971 style collapse.



                                5. Even in Pakistan were to still stay intact for the next decade, certain Punjabis won't be happy as it means Pashtun mass migration in to Punjab and Karachi. Some Punjabis are already complaining of Pashtun migrants to Lahore e.g. they are exclusivist, and have aggressive/dominant behaviour (i.e. bully Indic Punjabis).



                                The country is a mess and a failed terrorist state.



                                Afghanistan is a large country (far larger than Bangladesh for example) but with a relatively small population and once war is ended it can prosper.
                                Good and bad are everywhere...so stop generalising punjabis sindhis etc...We too ve good and bad pashtuns.Pakistan has and still giving refuge for 37 + yrs....
                                Worry about your bangladesh that has porous sea ports for USmarines and black water.If pakistan is a failed state so are india bangladesh soon.Your beloved uncle sam wont spare anyone...no matter how much nexus of us_india_afg_russia make.
                                Every country has its terms once used are thrown like tissues.Today you guys are mocking us...tomorrow we ll be mocking you.Just matter of time.Same situation of great game ll be in banhladesh and india.
                                sigpic"When it is said to them: "Make not mischief on the earth," they say: "Why, we only Want to make peace!" (2.11)

                                And when it is said to them (hypocrites): "Believe as the people (followers of Muhammad Peace be upon him , Al-Ansar and Al-Muhajirun) have believed," they say: "Shall we believe as the fools have believed?" Verily, they are the fools, but they know not."(2.13)

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