Pakistan has been taught a 'befitting lesson', PM Narendra Modi says

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Hahahaha... Now this butt hurt fcking loser is jibbering about nothing and making no sense!

He is too much of a coward to confront reality so he is now pretending that he is mad so that he can avoid having to confront the bitter truth about his pathetic lack of education and his stupid argument having been shredded to rubbish before his beady eyes.

What a loser! :D

Fck outta here.

I tried to have a normal conversation with you to begin with, then you started insulting me and called me paki etc. Then I gave you a chance more, then you began with your coping mechanism of repeating the same sentence.
So now I have released that it isn't your fault, but rather the cultural nightmare you and your family have. Inbreeding for several generation have had a tool on you.

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Hahahaha... Now this butt hurt fcking loser is jibbering about nothing and making no sense!

He is too much of a coward to confront reality so he is now pretending that he is mad so that he can avoid having to confront the bitter truth about his pathetic lack of education and his stupid argument having been shredded to rubbish before his beady eyes.

What a loser! :D

Fck outta here.

Seriously...i noticed its you who cant discuss things with respect and directly come to name calling and abuses..then DSM reacts with same....Merely picking atlas maps wont help if you dont ve pretexts of history associated with it.Every now and then various empires have ruled over india bangladesh and pakistan afghanistan.People may ve been same but emperors were a bit changed.E.g zulqarnain or cyrus the great had akhamanshi (Achaeminid) empire that was stretched from west to east till desert areas of subcontinent like rajistan cholistan deserts.And he was from the ancient khurasan region....living among israelites that had migrated since ishaaq as era.I ll prove through same atlas...

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Map of the Persian*Achaemenid Empire*at its greatest extent under the reigns of*Darius the Greatand*Xerxes.*(Zulqarnain).

Today Part of:

Egypt*
Libya*
Israel*
Palestine*
Syria*
Iraq*
Jordan*
Lebanon*
Turkey*
Iran*
Afghanistan*
Pakistan*
Turkmenistan*
Uzbekistan*
Tajikistan*
Armenia*
Kuwait

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SURAH AL KAHAF:
(Verses 84 ___

83.*"And they ask you about Dhul-Qarnain. Say: "I shall recite to you something of his story."

84.*"Verily, We established him in the earth, and We gave him the means of everything."

85."*So he followed a way."

86."*Until, when he reached the setting place of the sun, he found it setting in a spring of black muddy (or hot) water. And he found near it a people. We (Allah) said (by inspiration): "O Dhul-Qarnain! Either you punish them, or treat them with kindness."

87."*He said: "As for him (a disbeliever in the Oneness of Allah) who does wrong, we shall punish him; and then he will be brought back unto his Lord; Who will punish him with a terrible torment (Hell)."

88.*"But as for him who believes (in Allah's Oneness) and works righteousness, he shall have the best reward, (Paradise), and we (Dhul-Qarnain) shall speak unto him mild words (as instructions)."

89.*"Then he followed another way,"

90.*"Until, when he came to the rising place of the sun, he found it rising on a people for whom We (Allah) had provided no shelter against the sun."

91.*"So (it was)! And We knew all about him (Dhul-Qarnain)."

92.*"Then he followed (another) way,"

93.*"Until, when he reached between two mountains, he found, before (near) them (those two mountains), a people who scarcely understood a word."

94.*They said: "O Dhul-Qarnain! Verily! Ya'juj and Ma'juj (Gog and Magog) are doing great mischief in the land. Shall we then pay you a tribute in order that you might erect a barrier between us and them?"

95.*He said: "That (wealth, authority and power) in which my Lord had established me is better (than your tribute). So help me with strength (of men), I will erect between you and them a barrier.

96.*"Give me pieces (blocks) of iron," then, when he had filled up the gap between the two mountain-cliffs, he said: "Blow," till when he had made it (red as) fire, he said: "Bring me molten copper to pour over it."

97.*So they [Ya'juj and Ma'juj (Gog and Magog)] were made powerless to scale it or dig through it.

98.*Dhul-Qarnain) said: "This is a mercy from my Lord, but when the Promise of my Lord comes, He shall level it down to the ground. And the Promise of my Lord is ever true."

99.*And on that Day [i.e. the Day Ya'juj and Ma'juj (Gog and Magog)*will come out], We shall leave them to surge like waves on one another, and the Trumpet will be blown, and We shall collect them all together.

100.*And on that Day We shall present Hell to the disbelievers, plain to view,

101.*"(To) Those whose eyes had been under a covering from My Reminder (this Qur'an), and who could not bear to hear (it)."

102.*"Do then those who disbelieve think that they can take My slaves [i.e., the angels, Allah's Messengers, 'Iesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary), etc.] as*Auliya'*(lords, gods, protectors, etc.) besides Me? Verily, We have prepared Hell as an entertainment for the disbelievers (in the Oneness of Allah Islamic Monotheism)."

[Friends of Baloch]

Seriously...i noticed its you who cant discuss things with respect and directly come to name calling and abuses..then DSM reacts with same....Merely picking atlas maps wont help if you dont ve pretexts of history associated with it.Every now and then various empires have ruled over india bangladesh and pakistan afghanistan.People may ve been same but emperors were a bit changed.E.g zulqarnain or cyrus the great had akhamanshi (Achaeminid) empire that was stretched from west to east till desert areas of subcontinent like rajistan cholistan deserts.And he was from the ancient khurasan region....living among israelites that had migrated since ishaaq as era.I ll prove through same atlas...

Persian empire has nothing to do with anything that has been discussed here.

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YAJUJ MAJUJ AND ZULQARNAIN:

If we see the map of the kingdom of Dhul Qarnain (Cyrus) and compare it with Quranic verses then we can find the location of Yajuj Majuj.Check these points please and know it all.


1-Kingdom of Cyrus streched from Pakistan in the East till the Black sea in the west
2-Quran tells that when Cyrus went to the West,he reached a place where Sun was sinking in black muddy water(that the Black sea)
3-Then Quran tells that he went to East where there was no shelter from the sun and the people...meaning a BARREN place with no shade of trees...its the famous desert called Cholistan(in Pakistan) and Rajishtan in India.

3-Then he went to another way where there were mountians..it means he must have went to the north to the Himaliya mountains.

4-There he found people who lived close to the mountain and told him about Yajuj Majuj attacking them from the other side of the mountains range...He closed the pass as we read in Quran....
5-Finally we see that Quran tells that Yajuj Majuj will come near the end times RUNNING DOWN FROM A HIGH PLACE....
Do you which is the highest platue in the Earth?
its Tibet in the Himalayas in China
and Chinese are the Yajuj...


Non Muslim chinese would be among yajuj majuj in majority.....but we cannot say that Muslim chinese wont join..because hadith tells that Muslim yajuj majuj will break the wall.....Dajjal will also appear in the disguise of a pious Muslims and majority of Muslims will follow him...

THE DISCUSSION ABOUT THE HADITH MENTIONED BY IBN KATHEER ABOUT YAJUJ MAJUJ


قَالَ اِبْن جَرِير : حَدَّثَنَا بِشْر بْن يَزِيد حَدَّثَنَا سَعِيد عَنْ قَتَادَة قَالَ : ذُكِرَ لَنَا أَنَّ رَجُلًا
قَالَ يَا رَسُول اللَّه قَدْ رَأَيْت سَدّ يَأْجُوج وَمَأْجُوج قَالَ " اِنْعَتْهُ لِي " قَالَ كَالْبَرَدِ الْمُحَبَّر طَرِيقَة سَوْدَاء وَطَرِيقَة حَمْرَاء قَالَ " قَدْ رَأَيْته " هَذَا حَدِيث مُرْسَل . وَقَدْ بَعَثَ الْخَلِيفَة الْوَاثِق فِي دَوْلَته بَعْض أُمَرَائِهِ وَجَهَّزَ مَعَهُ جَيْشًا سَرِيَّة لِيَنْظُرُوا إِلَى السَّدّ وَيُعَايِنُوهُ وَيَنْعَتُوهُ لَهُ إِذَا رَجَعُوا فَتَوَصَّلُوا مِنْ بِلَاد إِلَى بِلَاد وَمِنْ مَلِك إِلَى مَلِك حَتَّى وَصَلُوا إِلَيْهِ وَرَأَوْا بِنَاءَهُ مِنْ الْحَدِيد وَمِنْ النُّحَاس وَذَكَرُوا أَنَّهُمْ رَأَوْا فِيهِ بَابًا عَظِيمًا وَعَلَيْهِ أَقْفَال عَظِيمَة وَرَأَوْا بَقِيَّة اللَّبِن وَالْعَمَل فِي بُرْج هُنَاكَ وَأَنَّ عِنْده حَرَسًا مِنْ الْمُلُوك الْمُتَاخِمَة لَهُ وَأَنَّهُ عَالٍ مُنِيف شَاهِق لَا يُسْتَطَاع وَلَا مَا حَوْله مِنْ الْجِبَال ثُمَّ رَجَعُوا إِلَى بِلَادهمْ وَكَانَتْ غَيْبَتهمْ أَكْثَر مِنْ سَنَتَيْنِ وَشَاهَدُوا أَهْوَالًا وَعَجَائِب ثُمَّ قَالَ اللَّه تَعَالَى*



verse 95-tafseer Ibn kathir


if we check ahadith we find further these points..
1-yajuj majoj appear after the destruction of the Western powers(the Romans) & after the destruction of jewish powers....
Now logically who is left behind after the western and jewish kingdoms???
Obviously chinese

2-The yajuj majuj are not in a cealed container...only an opening between two walls were closed

3-If we check the map we clearly see that china is covered on its south west borders by Himalayas...and its only entrance to the Muslim world through land is through the Silk road(build in 1976)..this is the opening of the yajuj majuj

4-hadith tells that some Muslims will born among yajuj who will break the wall...we see that the silk road was mainly built by workers from Sinkiang province Muslims of china

5-Combing the verses of Quran about Cyrus travels and mapping it witht the cyrus kingdom...its clear chinese are yajuj majuj.


6_Non Muslim chinese would be among yajuj majuj in majority.....but we cannot say that Muslim chinese wont join..because hadith tells that Muslim yajuj majuj will break the wall...Dajjal will also appear in the disguise of a pious Muslims and majority of Muslims will follow him...


The above mentioned hadith is a Mursal hadith and the famous scholars like Imam Bokhari, Imam Muslim,Hakim,Ibn Hazm and many other scholars reject Mursal ahadith.

We also have 2nd opinion about Mursal hadith which says that Mursal hadith from a younger Tabiee like
al-Hasan al-Basri,
al- Zuhri,
Humaid al-Tawil and*
Qatadah
are the weakest type of Mursal. and also its from weakest catagory.
Al-Dhahabi(d.748),Imam al-Shafi'i(d 204) and Imam Malik accept stronger cataggory of Mursal but rejects the Mursal hadith from a younger Tabiee(Successor).
According to Al-Dhahabi and other scholars,Qatada is from the younger Tabieen and therefore mursal hadith from Qatada is the weakest Mursal and maybe rejected by majority of the scholars..
Allah knows the best
Note: There is Qatada sahabi(companion) also.But the person Qatada mentioned here is not sahab(companion) but a successor.

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Persian empire has nothing to do with anything that has been discussed here.

It wasnt only persian empire...it was ACHAEMINID empire that included persia as central ruling area till gandhara regions or peshawer.Since oral tradition is famous in pashtuns but written in persians...persians were advanced in this method...so they ve described DARIUS THE TREAT OR ZULQARNAIN in detail.


Why i am duscussing it? Coz its related to yajuj majooj...ZULQARNAIN means 2 horns in arabic or 2 centuries or 2 areas east and west.In all ways it fits into zulqarnain.Darius wore same helmet as zulqarnain.The story of yajuj majuj (gog magog ) is related in past as well as present or future...covering 2 centuries.THE EMPIRE OF ZULQARNAIN should matter most today not indus or other civilizations.Besides you cant rush out people today by claiming past perished empires.....People cant get few yard land for grave let alone whole empires.

[Friends of Baloch]

It wasnt only persian empire...it was ACHAEMINID empire that included persia as central ruling area till gandhara regions or peshawer.Since oral tradition is famous in pashtuns but written in persians...persians were advanced in this method...so they ve described DARIUS THE TREAT OR ZULQARNAIN in detail.


Why i am duscussing it? Coz its related to yajuj majooj...ZULQARNAIN means 2 horns in arabic or 2 centuries or 2 areas east and west.In all ways it fits into zulqarnain.Darius wore same helmet as zulqarnain.The story of yajuj majuj (gog magog ) is related in past as well as present or future...covering 2 centuries.THE EMPIRE OF ZULQARNAIN should matter most today not indus or other civilizations.Besides you cant rush out people today by claiming past perished empires.....People cant get few yard land for grave let alone whole empires.

I honestly dont know what you are talking about or why you talking about these things, unless you are trying to start a new discussion.

I have the whole time been talking only about physical geography, which has nothing to do with people, borders, cultures or empires.

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Surah Al Kahf was revealed to Mohammad (saw) after the Jews, told the mushriks to ask the Prophets three things:

Who were the Sleepers of the cave and what was their story?Who was Dhul Qarnain?What he (Muhammad) knows about the Ruh?

The prophet (saw) told them that he would tell them in the morning, hoping that he would get revelation from Gibraeel as, however he did not. After fifteen days the mushriks returned, thinking they triumphed over the Prophet saww. He (saw) began to feel sad but the next day Gibraeel as revealed to him (saw), Surah Al Kahf, which contained the answers of their (the mushriks) question.

The Surah can be divided into about seven sections and contains four main stories.

1.The sleepers of the cave
2.The owners of 2 gardens
3.Al khidr
4.And Zulqarnain.

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I honestly dont know what you are talking about or why you talking about these things, unless you are trying to start a new discussion.

I have the whole time been talking only about physical geography, which has nothing to do with people, borders, cultures or empires.

Why you are not muslim? Every muslim is supposed to know this.Even non muslims are researching on it.

You were discussing the regions of original inhabitants...Original inhabitants were non other than same pashtuns ....till attock multan and associated himalya mountains.They came in 4 waves of migration from era of prophet ibrahim as till divine punishment of dispersion.Some tribes came early....some came later after centuries...

Now your claims of atlas...who made these maps? Jews and christians.What do their scriptures say about old israelites and darius? Its same as told in quran and hadeeths.

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، عَنْ أَبِي هُرَيْرَةَ، قَالَ : سَمِعْتُ رَسُولَ اللَّهِ صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ يَقُولُ : " إِنَّ لِلَّهِ فِي السَّمَاءِ جُنْدًا , وَفِي الْأَرْضِ جُنْدًا ، فَجُنْدُهُ فِي السَّمَاءِ الْمَلَائِكَةُ ، وَجُنْدُهُ فِي الْأَرْضِ أَهْلُ خُرَاسَانَ "

Narrated by Abu huraira ra that prophet saww**said ,"No doubt for Allah, there are armies in the heavens(skies) and on the earth.Thus the army of Allah in the heaven are the Angels and the Army of Allah on the earth are the dwellers(people) of Khurasan."
Above is daef hadeeth but still important.




Narrated by Buraida ra ,'I heard dear Prophet Muhammad saww **saying that,*
"Soon many armies will depart after me.You must join the one going to Khurasan .Then you stay there in a city called Merv. because it was built by Zulkarnain and he prayed for Barakah in it and threrefore, no harm will be done to those living there."


ا أَوْسُ بْنُ عَبْدِ اللَّهِ بْنِ بُرَيْدَةَ قَالَ أَخْبَرَنِي أَخِي سَهْلُ بْنُ عَبْدِ اللَّهِ بْنِ بُرَيْدَةَ عَنْ أَبِيهِ عَنْ جَدِّهِ بُرَيْدَةَ قَالَ سَمِعْتُ رَسُولَ اللَّهِ صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ يَقُولُ سَتَكُونُ بَعْدِي بُعُوثٌ كَثِيرَةٌ فَكُونُوا فِي بَعْثِ خُرَاسَانَ ثُمَّ انْزِلُوا مَدِينَةَ مَرْوَ فَإِنَّهُ بَنَاهَا ذُو الْقَرْنَيْنِ وَدَعَا لَهَا بِالْبَرَكَةِ وَلَا يَضُرُّ أَهْلَهَا سُوءٌ




حضرت بریدہ رضی اللہ عنہ سے مروی ہے کہ میں نے نبی کریم صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم کو یہ فرماتے ہوئے سنا ہے کہ عنقریب میرے بعد بہت سے لشکر روانہ ہوں گے تم خراسان کی طرف جانے والے لشکر میں شامل ہو جانا اور " مرو" نامی شہر میں پڑاؤ ڈالنا کیونکہ اسے ذوالقرنین نے بنایا تھا اور اس میں برکت کی دعا کی تھی اس لئے وہاں رہنے والوں کو کوئی نقصان نہیں پہنچے گا۔


Prophet*saww*said ,"The Mahdi will rule the world like the Dhu’l-Qarnayn and the Prophet Sulaiyman."(Ibn Hajar al-Haythami, Al-Qawl al-Mukhtasar fi 'Alamat al-Mahdi al-Muntazar, p. 29)
The Prophet*saww*said, "There have been four great kings on the Earth: Two were believers and two were unbelievers. The believers were Dhu'l-Qarnayn and Sulaiyman as (Solomon), and the unbelievers were Nimrod and Bakhtinasr(Nabuchdnazar). There will be a fifth king to rule the world will be from the people of my House."(Ibn al-Jawzi, Mektubat-i Rabbani, 2/1163)

http://worldnewsdailyreport.com/china-miner-found-alive-after-17-years-underground/

China minor found after 17 yrs...same way large gog magog army ll be released.

[Friends of Baloch]

Why you are not muslim? Every muslim is supposed to know this.Even non muslims are researching on it.

You were discussing the regions of original inhabitants...Original inhabitants were non other than same pashtuns ....till attock multan and associated himalya mountains.They came in 4 waves of migration from era of prophet ibrahim as till divine punishment of dispersion.Some tribes came early....some came later after centuries...

Now your claims of atlas...who made these maps? Jews and christians.What do their scriptures say about old israelites and darius? Its same as told in quran and hadeeths.

No i wasnt, that was before. The past few pages i was talking about physical geography.

Genetic tests have found no evidence to support that Pashtuns are directly descended from Jews or Semitic peoples. In fact, different Pashtun communities have different lineages and do not all belong to a common ancestral group. This is not surprising because Pashtuns are historically a confederation of semi-nomadic tribes.

See one of the latest studies from July 2014 here: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24709582

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SOURCE: http://jewishfactsfromportland.blogs...stan-have.html

No i wasnt, that was before. The past few pages i was talking about physical geography.

Genetic tests have found no evidence to support that Pashtuns are directly descended from Jews or Semitic peoples. In fact, different Pashtun communities have different lineages and do not all belong to a common ancestral group. This is not surprising because Pashtuns are historically a confederation of semi-nomadic tribes.

See one of the latest studies from July 2014 here: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24709582

Genetic tests should be other way round....with pashtuns having stadardised DNA as original israelites ...Jews when spread across europe...married romans and khazars.Genetically speaking even pashtuns dna resembles closest to ashkenazi jews r1a1 group.




The observed haplogroup distribution suggests some degree of genetic isolation of the northern population, likely due to the Hindu Kush mountain range separating it from the southern Afghans who have had greater contact with neighboring Pathans from Pakistan and migrations from the Indian subcontinent. Our study demonstrates genetic similarities between Pathans from Afghanistan and Pakistan, both of which are characterized by the predominance of haplogroup R1a1a*-M198 (>50%) and the sharing of the same modal haplotype. Furthermore, the high frequencies of R1a1a-M198 and the presence of G2c-M377 chromosomes in Pathans might represent phylogenetic signals from Khazars, a common link between Pathans and Ashkenazi groups, whereas the absence of E1b1b1a2-V13 lineage does not support their professed Greek ancestry.

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No i wasnt, that was before. The past few pages i was talking about physical geography.

Genetic tests have found no evidence to support that Pashtuns are directly descended from Jews or Semitic peoples. In fact, different Pashtun communities have different lineages and do not all belong to a common ancestral group. This is not surprising because Pashtuns are historically a confederation of semi-nomadic tribes.

See one of the latest studies from July 2014 here: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24709582

I ll give the answer via jewish resources later inshAllah as to how in their scriptures pashtuns fit in.Had it not been the case...they wouldnt be preparing for greater israel ...you seems to be sleeping regarding facts.

[Loy Afghanistan]

Ancient Pashtuns are a superb noble and fair conquering force. Meaning countless of races where under Pashtun dominance for thousands of years. We should not forget to mention how many other races moved in under Pashtun protection and change their ways to Pashtun ways.
There for the genetic difference in some Pashtuns areas.

Don't ever believe in some mix raced people that talk about the history of true and pure Pashtuns. Because of their jealousy of pure Pashtuns and they hatred towards us, they will make up bull**** histories that are purely fiction with jews and ****. If you want to know some knowledge you need to find some few families that has a 5000 year old Ariana/Pashtun lineage, and there is a very few out there.

Originally Pashtuns are Noble pure race of ancient Ariana. TO EVEN think Pashuns would be some waste Semitic race or Panjabis is just profound disgusting racism towards a pure and noble people with the first monolith faith on Earth.

We are around and we will be powerful once more, so we can cleanse Loy Afghanistan from the filths that is piling up. My mother was on a business trip and she said they are many arabs, ******s and foreigners that are now settling in Kabul for example, marrying "Afghans". What the hell is going on nowadays. The mix raced western globalization is spreading its diseases to my beautiful paradise.