Division of Afghanistan?

[Toramana]

After ravishing the resources and exploiting the population,the Satan always leaves an occupied nation with thorns sworn. He divides and subdivide in a manner so that the he can continue to exploit. The Malayan peninsula, Hindustan/SA, Arabia and ME, W Africa, N Africa, Cyprus, W Asia and wherever the Satan had set foot, this is the common story.

Although, I don't agree with your religiosity but I agree with you on the point that foreign powers try to achieve their interest no matter at what horrible cost to the native people. All this talk of humanity, human rights, democracy, etc. is nothing but a farce.

But the point is, the native communities should devise a system where the cultural, economic, political rights of cultural, religious, and ethnic groups as well as individuals are respected. And there is an environment for people to interact and live together.

If you think by mere following Islam, one can achieve that, you are faulted. Islam cannot make people selfless human beings(how companion of the Prophet fought for power). Islam can be one bond but cannot be the only bond to unite. Every body wants to own a home and be a master of it as well. No body wants to be controlled by others whether in the guise of religion or any other patriotic and fraternal-paternal pretensions.

[asad71]

Although, I don't agree with your religiousity but I agree with you on the point that foreign powers try to achieve their interest no matter at what horrible cost to the native people. All this talk of humanity, human rights, democracy, etc. is nothing but a farce.

But the point is, the native communities should devise a system where the cultural, economic, political rights of cultural, religious, and ethnic groups as well as individuals are respected as well as there is an environment for people to interact and live together.

If you think by mere following Islam, one can achieve that, you are faulted. Islam cannot make people selfless human beings(how companion of the Prophet fought for power). Islam can be one bond but cannot be the only bond to unite. Every body wants to own a home and to be a master of it as well. No body wants to be controlled by others whether in the guise of religion or any other patriotic and paternal pretensions.

In fact I find Islam is the only answer. But we need to follow the al-Quora'n to the letter with full understanding.

[asad71]

I have a feeling that Abdullahx2 maybe trying what Bhutto did in Pakistan, 1970-1971.To satisfy his own ambitions he maybe trying to divide Afghanistan with himself installed into power over the non-Pashtun areas. But I must add members living in the country would know better.

[Tiger Khan]

Actually whether Ghani or Abdullah becomes president is not very important. It's now crucial that the transfer of power goes without violence. If so, it will be the first time in Afghanistan's bloody history.

I hope Pashtuns remain calm and don't destroy Kabul again, or ignite a civil war.



Both sides committed a lot of fraud. Although Ghani takes the cake, because he miraculously managed to increase his voters even though the Pashtun countryside is being terrorized by Talibans.

well yes, but realize provinces such as ghazni, kunduz, wardak etc are all overwhelmingly Pashtun as well.. you can be in denial of the said fact but that is true..

so on paper and on Wikipedia etc you can claim that farsiwan are a majority in those province, but clearly reality is different.

[Tiger Khan]

he is a sore loser ie Abduallah Abduallah Pashtun wanabe

[Tiger Khan]

Actually whether Ghani or Abdullah becomes president is not very important. It's now crucial that the transfer of power goes without violence. If so, it will be the first time in Afghanistan's bloody history.

I hope Pashtuns remain calm and don't destroy Kabul again, or ignite a civil war.



Both sides committed a lot of fraud. Although Ghani takes the cake, because he miraculously managed to increase his voters even though the Pashtun countryside is being terrorized by Talibans.

well.. previously civil war was caused by everyone.. not just Pashtun.. (you just showed your biased approach). and this time too its tajiks who are being a cry baby..

Lets hope this time again Tajiks & Hazara do not betray the land of Afghanistan

[Al-Afghani]

well yes, but realize provinces such as ghazni, kunduz, wardak etc are all overwhelmingly Pashtun as well.. you can be in denial of the said fact but that is true..

so on paper and on Wikipedia etc you can claim that farsiwan are a majority in those province, but clearly reality is different.

All Pashtun areas have a Taliban presence, which prevents the people from voting. In some cases fingers are cut off from voters.

It's sad that Pashtun ethnocentrists have to resort to fraud. But such is life in Afghanistan.

[gadoonwal]

All Pashtun areas have a Taliban presence, which prevents the people from voting. In some cases fingers are cut off from voters.

It's sad that Pashtun ethnocentrists have to resort to fraud. But such is life in Afghanistan.

Not this time.Both pashtun men and women fully participated in election and voted for Ghani.
In loy pakhtya 90% women voted to support their leader Ghani.
The northren criminal allaince is loser this time.
Salih,s talib talib drama did,nt work this time.
pashtuns rejected the talibinization .
Talibinization has no roots in afghanistan.Talibs were sponsered by ,,isi,,.
pakistan is exposed to the whole world .

[Tiger Khan]

All Pashtun areas have a Taliban presence, which prevents the people from voting. In some cases fingers are cut off from voters.

It's sad that Pashtun ethnocentrists have to resort to fraud. But such is life in Afghanistan.

so many Pashtuns can not even vote and even then a Tajik loses an election... it just goes to show how skewed the demographic data is in Afghanistan... Pashtun are a vast majority in the country.. Afghanistan is afghan country not farsi country.

[Al-Afghani]

so many Pashtuns can not even vote and even then a Tajik loses an election... it just goes to show how skewed the demographic data is in Afghanistan... Pashtun are a vast majority in the country.. Afghanistan is afghan country not farsi country.

Too much fraud has been committed for the election to be taken seriously. But I'm sure you also believe that Assad won by 99%.

Afghans don't have their own country, because they aren't a majority but the largest minority. Afghanistan was cobbled together from the broken parts of various empires.

[Tiger Khan]

Too much fraud has been committed for the election to be taken seriously. But I'm sure you also believe that Assad won by 99%.

Afghans don't have their own country, because they aren't a majority but the largest minority. Afghanistan was cobbled together from the broken parts of various empires.

Assumption is the mother of all F** ups..(that is for the first part of your comment)

Afghanistan may have been built by snatching from other empires.. But south and east have always been Pashtun.. western Afghanistan (taken from Iran) and few provinces in the north were pashtunized later.. but reality is that those areas are Pashtun now.. Hazara came from magnolia, and Uzbeks came from north.. Tajiks were indigenous only to north east of the country.. however, Pashtun makes the majority of the population.. more than 65%... and tajiks are around 15-20%.. how can areas such as north west, or central Afghanistan have large population.. as those areas are not very hospitable.. same goes for areas of north east such as badakhshan, etc etc.. only good areas are kunduz, Balk, Baghlan.. which have significant Pashtun population as well.. and we know that Pashtuns in the north have been settled around rivers.. therefore, they have large population there..

Had Abduallah Abduallah (that Pashtun wannabe) won the election .. farsibans would have accepted the results with their eyes closed.. also Pashtuns do not have much clout in current Afghanistan, because of farsiban's slave master i.e. AMerican, americans would never allow their illegitimate children to be cheated in elections..

[Al-Afghani]

Assumption is the mother of all F** ups..(that is for the first part of your comment)

Afghanistan may have been built by snatching from other empires.. But south and east have always been Pashtun.. western Afghanistan (taken from Iran) and few provinces in the north were pashtunized later.. but reality is that those areas are Pashtun now.. Hazara came from magnolia, and Uzbeks came from north.. Tajiks were indigenous only to north east of the country.. however, Pashtun makes the majority of the population.. more than 65%... and tajiks are around 15-20%.. how can areas such as north west, or central Afghanistan have large population.. as those areas are not very hospitable.. same goes for areas of north east such as badakhshan, etc etc.. only good areas are kunduz, Balk, Baghlan.. which have significant Pashtun population as well.. and we know that Pashtuns in the north have been settled around rivers.. therefore, they have large population there..

Had Abduallah Abduallah (that Pashtun wannabe) won the election .. farsibans would have accepted the results with their eyes closed.. also Pashtuns do not have much clout in current Afghanistan, because of farsiban's slave master i.e. AMerican, americans would never allow their illegitimate children to be cheated in elections..

Maybe you can show me a few maps that you made with Paint, to convince me that Pashtuns are a majority.

The Pashtun settlers in the north and west have been Persianized. The real Pashtuns don't accept them, and call them "Kabuli".

[Tiger Khan]

Maybe you can show me a few maps that you made with Paint, to convince me that Pashtuns are a majority.

The Pashtun settlers in the north and west have been Persianized. The real Pashtuns don't accept them, and call them "Kabuli".

well.. genetically they are Pashtuns.. not Tajiks.. so basically any person who does not have any back ground or roots is Tajik!!..

[Al-Afghani]

well.. genetically they are Pashtuns.. not Tajiks.. so basically any person who does not have any back ground or roots is Tajik!!..

They are not Tajiks but Pashtuns, although their bloodline isn't considered pure, therefore they rank low on the Pashtun totem pole.

For example, Ashraf Ghani is from such a family and had to invented a Kochi identity for himself for political purposes.

[Tiger Khan]

They are not Tajiks but Pashtuns, although their bloodline isn't considered pure, therefore they rank low on the Pashtun totem pole.

For example, Ashraf Ghani is from such a family and had to invented a Kochi identity for himself for political purposes.

yeah yeah... and what do you have to say about Abdullah abduallah?? .. see for winning an election in Afghanistan.. you have to claim Pashtun identity.. which is yet another indication of who is the ethnic majority in that country..