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    RAWALPINDI: He trained Afghan resistance fighters against the Soviets and helped create the Taliban, but today Inter-Services Intelligence’s (ISI) former chief Hamid Gul says the group’s long-time foe Abdullah Abdullah has the best chance of securing peace.


    Widely viewed as a “Godfather” figure for Pakistan’s strategy of using proxies to exert influence in neighbouring countries, the 77-year-old retired general is still seen by some observers as offering a window into the mindset of the military establishment.

    As Afghanistan prepares for a run-off election on Saturday between Abdullah and his rival Ashraf Ghani, Pakistan – which backed the Taliban regime that was ousted in 2001 and is often accused by Kabul of supporting their insurgency – has maintained a resolutely neutral stance.

    But Gul, who headed ISI between 1987 and 1989 during the late stages of the Soviet occupation, said it would take a fighter, not an academic to secure peace for Afghanistan – as long as he refused to sign a bilateral security agreement with the United States.

    In an interview with AFP at his Rawalpindi home, Gul, smartly dressed in a white shalwar kameez and sporting the trimmed moustache favoured among army officers, said Abdullah’s past as a resistance fighter together with his shrewd choices of running mates made him uniquely placed to negotiate with those he called the “Afghan opposition” – the Taliban.

    Abdullah draws his main support from ethnic Tajiks in the north, while Ghani is a Pashtun like the majority of the country and the Taliban.

    But, said Gul: “Abdullah has a distinct advantage for future peace in Afghanistan – if that is the objective and it should be – that he is a fighter.”
    “And the other people with him are also fighters,” he continued, referring to running mates Mohammad Khan, an ally of powerful warlord Gulbuddin Hekmatyar who has traditional ties to Pakistan, and Mohammad Mohaqeq – a Hazara seen as closer to Iran.

    “Ashraf Ghani is not a fighter,” he said about the ex-World Bank economist who spent the 1980s living in the United States. “And for a fighter to open a dialogue with a non-fighter would be very difficult.”

    Following the Soviet withdrawal from Afghanistan, the country slid into anarchy, and Taliban fighters trained in Pakistan gradually prised control from the Northern Alliance of commander Ahmad Shah Massoud – a revered national hero who was also Abdullah’s mentor.

    During this period, Gul maintained contacts with both sides in an unofficial role as a mediator. “At that time I used to live in Ahmad Shah Massoud’s guesthouse and Abdullah was deputed to look after me so I met him almost every day” during trips from 1992-1995, prior to the Taliban’s ascent to power, he said.

    He added his last trip to Afghanistan came in 2001. “And that was to attend the last parade of Taliban government on 19th of August 2001, just three weeks before 9/11. I was a chief guest there.”

    Since leaving the army, Gul has remained in the limelight, and is viewed with deep suspicion by India for his alleged links to Kashmiri militancy, as well as by the United States, which worked with him during the 1980s but later lobbied for his inclusion on a UN list of international terrorists.

    Stridently anti-American, Gul warned that war would continue if the next Afghan president signs a long-awaited security pact allowing some 10,000 US troops to remain in the country in non-combat roles until 2016.

    “If the Americans pull out then a deal is possible through intra-Afghan dialogue, that means with the opposition, mainly Hekmatyar and Taliban,” he said, referring to Pakistan’s old allies.

    “Contingent on this situation arriving is the Americans’ pull-out. There can be no compromise because this is the spirit of the Afghan nation. The earlier the Afghan people see the back of them the better,” he added.

    Some observers in Pakistan have accused Gul of aggrandising his role in regional affairs post-retirement, but respected security analyst Ayesha Siddiqa said he remained “strongly connected” with the prevalent line of thinking in the Pakistani military’s high command.

    “The army definitely would want to have an influence (in Afghanistan) and the presence of a friendly state in the neighbouring country which protects them against their traditional enemy India,” she said.

    For his part, Gul said he was happy to be active in retirement. “I have acceptability on both sides of the divide,” he said of pro- and anti-government forces. “People keep coming from Afghanistan. They bring me good wishes and they are very well informed.”

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  • #2
    abdullah is in good contact with hamid gul.
    He is fully instructed by Hamid Gul.
    isi funded him .



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    • #3
      Of course a Hamid Gul would say this. If another Pashtun president is elected, its basically the beginning of the end for pakistan since the durand line talks will heat up and ghani is in favour of removing it. Seriously, which Pashtun president isn't? It has divided Pashtuns long enough.

      Abdullah on the other hand i heard is in favour fencing the border which would make the job for the ISI easier.
      "Revenge is a dish best served cold".

      -Old Pashtun proverb




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      • #4
        Hamid Gul is irrelevant.

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        • #5
          I cannot say that Abdullah is best hope for peace. Under certain circumstances one can say so, as Abdullah wouldn't fight that much for Pashtun's interests as he is both Tajik and Pashtun and therefore a more "neutral" candidate. Many Non-Pashtuns , most probably Shiite Hazaras, fear Pashtun nationalism. Therefore, Abdullah probably is a better hope for conciliation of the peoples of Afghanistan.

          I personally think that Abdullah will win, though to me it doesn't matter who wins because both have more or less the same conservative program as far as human rights, rights of minorities (ethnic, religious or sexual = Hazaras, Shiites, women, homosexuals) and civil society are concerned.

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          • #6
            Abdullah in the 80's/90's was part of Northern alliance while Gul ISI head and a terrorists making machine.

            Gul is a blind patriot,If he ever thought Abdullah x2 would be against Pakistan.he never would had positive view of Abdullah x2
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            • #7
              My opinion on the cleverly written article : This article is saying the following - when you see between the lines: - ISI/Pakistani Military High Command - are acknowledging that Dr Abdullah Abdullah will be next president of Afghanistan: i.e.. they are addressing him as the president in waiting. ( Ghani is just side show - finished ) - they are trying to say to Dr Abdullah Abdullah - that we (ISI/Pakistani Military High Command) can/will claim rightful justification to continue to back Taliban - if you sign BSA. They feign that peace will come should Dr AA not sign BSA, because they know that Dr AA will DEFINITELY sign the BSA. It is like a game of poker - very tactfully played by ISI and Pakistani media. - Yes. And so far Ghani has been proposing to have shared power with Taliban - with qualification that it will be "temp". So it fits...nicely. But people of Afghanistan will not be duped by these conspirators. Maybe some will be duped, some will be bribed, and some will be betrayed. But this immoral agenda can be defeated. Pakistan seeks power sharing with Taliban in Afghanistan’s next government http://www.khaama.com/pakistan-seeks...overnment-6174 Pakistan need Abdullah and we need Pakistan.

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              • #8
                ^^The BSA is irrelevant since Obama has already declared all troops out in 2016.

                What Hamid Ghul is admitting to is that they now know they have lost control of the T boys. The T boys have been able to create a gov in exile in Qatar and if they decide to make peace with Ghani especially now that the US is leaving for good which was their main condition. This situation is fast turning against Pakistan because then the TTP would have sanctuary in Afghanistan which Afghanistan can easily transform to their advantage by creating instability in FATA, KPK and spread to the rest of the provinces.

                Hamid Ghul knows that the T boys can not make peace with Abdullahx2 so it is Ghul's hope that Ax2 wins.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by khushal View Post
                  ^^The BSA is irrelevant since Obama has already declared all troops out in 2016.

                  What Hamid Ghul is admitting to is that they now know they have lost control of the T boys. The T boys have been able to create a gov in exile in Qatar and if they decide to make peace with Ghani especially now that the US is leaving for good which was their main condition. This situation is fast turning against Pakistan because then the TTP would have sanctuary in Afghanistan which Afghanistan can easily transform to their advantage by creating instability in FATA, KPK and spread to the rest of the provinces.

                  Hamid Ghul knows that the T boys can not make peace with Abdullahx2 so it is Ghul's hope that Ax2 wins.
                  fanboy conspiracies.

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                  • #10
                    Mula omar who was backed by pakistan refused to sign the durand.
                    pakistan try to influence mula rabani but the T boys refused.
                    No pashtun will sign the durand .
                    Tajiks waited for too long to fence and sign the durand.
                    That movement finally come but abdullah will be killed for sure .
                    The boys are ready for his assassination.
                    If durandline was declared border millions of pashtuns from afghanistan will become disadvantage.They will have no choice but to cross the border.
                    It present 90% trade is in hands of pashtuns.Pashtuns will be left with nothing if it was signed.
                    pashtuns are weak and have no power but they are more aware.



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                    gero jabo kre lahoo pa khpal tahzeeb ki
                    be pakhtu ba de bal hestsok rastoon naka
                    hamza baba
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                    • #11
                      If you see through the smoke screen, Pakistan is again trying to disunite Afghans and create problems for us on ethnic lines and from I can see in here, it's working.

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                      • #12
                        Abdullah^2 can do no more than destabilize afghanistan even further by adopting a militantly anti-paki stance (which will provoke the pakis to destabilize afghanistan by upping the ante when it comes to support for the taliban)

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Pakwatan View Post
                          fanboy conspiracies.
                          no conspiracy. Hamid Ghul's interests are with Pakistan and it is in Pakistan's interest for Afghanistan to have no peace. Ax2 will ensure no peace.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Pakwatan View Post
                            fanboy conspiracies.
                            lack of good education is one of the reasons why Afghans are easy to play with. Afghans tend to believe in fairly stories than reality. Pakis, Indians are not different. In the next days you will see many Pashtuns leave Afghanistan, incl. Ghani, joining Taliban and ISI in Pakistan. So-called technocrates will leave for US, Dubai or UK. Yoon Gang and Co will become again your ISI branded sexual toys lol
                            Last edited by TajikNationalistGER; 06-14-2014, 08:56 AM.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by TajikNationalistGER View Post
                              lack of good education is one of the reasons why Afghans are easy to play with. Afghans tend to believe in fairly stories than reality. Pakis, Indians are not different. In the next days you will see many Pashtuns leave Afghanistan, incl. Ghani, joining Taliban and ISI in Pakistan. So-called technocrates will leave for US, Dubai or UK. Yoon Gang and Co will become again your ISI branded sexual toys lol
                              so your saying ghani lacks education. the guy has a phd.

                              it seems like you are the one who lacks education.

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