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  • #16
    Originally posted by tripledouble View Post
    lol ever heard of Abdur Rehman Khan and his deal with Britain?all he cared about was $$$
    how much $$$ did he get?

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Zubr-Zubr View Post
      Tadjiks it is part of multinational society of Afghanistan. They saved the culture, traditions, language. Tadjiks of Afghanistan saved more originality, than Tadjiks of Tadjikistan.
      Tajiks dress is PAshtun, food is Uzback and laguage is Farsir from Iran...Tadjiks don't have there own culture language or what so ever, thats why in the west they are so westernised and forget Afghan culture so fast.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Khostai View Post
        Tajiks dress is PAshtun, food is Uzback and laguage is Farsir from Iran...Tadjiks don't have there own culture language or what so ever, thats why in the west they are so westernised and forget Afghan culture so fast.
        It is a choice of Tadjiks. Them nobody compels.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Khostai View Post
          Tajiks dress is PAshtun, food is Uzback and laguage is Farsir from Iran...Tadjiks don't have there own culture language or what so ever, thats why in the west they are so westernised and forget Afghan culture so fast.

          For Tadjiks better influence of Pashtun, what influence of englishmen and Russians. In Islamic emirate Afghanistan Tadjiks live as free people. Tadjikistan is the Russian colony. In Tadjikistan the Russian culture prevails above the national Tadjik culture. It is not good.
          Last edited by Zubr-Zubr; 05-20-2014, 05:53 PM.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Khostai View Post
            Tajiks dress is PAshtun, food is Uzback and laguage is Farsir from Iran...Tadjiks don't have there own culture language or what so ever, thats why in the west they are so westernised and forget Afghan culture so fast.
            so if tajiks are so bad, do you plan to let them create their own country, like a loy tajikistan?

            "I bow to no one, except ALLAH. I dont bow to punjabay, do not bow to kabulay and afghanay, do not bow to faujay and mullay, do not bow to asfandyarwalay and petty khanays...i am traitor to all of them." - Smartay

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            • #21
              Originally posted by tripledouble View Post
              so if tajiks are so bad, do you plan to let them create their own country, like a loy tajikistan?

              of course not, why I would let those racist ****s rule over Uzbacks Pashtuns Turkman and other minorities, you know that the North has a lot of small ethnic groups, Tajiks are not even the majority over there.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Khostai View Post
                of course not, why I would let those racist ****s rule over Uzbacks Pashtuns Turkman and other minorities, you know that the North has a lot of small ethnic groups, Tajiks are not even the majority over there.
                All the ethnic minorities would rather live with Tajiks than Pashtuns, who are either Taliban or ethnic fascists. Hazara, Uzbeks, Turkmen have bad memories of the treatment they received from the Pashtuns.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Al-Afghani View Post
                  All the ethnic minorities would rather live with Tajiks than Pashtuns, who are either Taliban or ethnic fascists. Hazara, Uzbeks, Turkmen have bad memories of the treatment they received from the Pashtuns.
                  If you are not happy you can move back to your ancestors land in Mongolia, Persia, or Arabian desert.
                  To Paradise, with Pakhto, I will go.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by tripledouble View Post
                    so if tajiks are so bad, do you plan to let them create their own country, like a loy tajikistan?

                    That's a FACIST map created by tajik natiaionlists to split Afghanistan up and create diversions. Truth is, Pashtuns are everywhere in Afghanistan today, not only in the south and east.
                    "Revenge is a dish best served cold".

                    -Old Pashtun proverb




                    "My Pashtun Pride i will not hide!"

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Kushan Prince View Post
                      That's a FACIST map created by tajik natiaionlists to split Afghanistan up and create diversions. Truth is, Pashtuns are everywhere in Afghanistan today, not only in the south and east.
                      well when i see a loy afghanistan map it includes my native districts of Hazara and Mansehra; as well as non-Pashtun areas of Chitral/Kalash and some maps even show Balochistan as part of Afghanistan; so that pisses me off equally.
                      "I bow to no one, except ALLAH. I dont bow to punjabay, do not bow to kabulay and afghanay, do not bow to faujay and mullay, do not bow to asfandyarwalay and petty khanays...i am traitor to all of them." - Smartay

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by tripledouble View Post
                        well when i see a loy afghanistan map it includes my native districts of Hazara and Mansehra; as well as non-Pashtun areas of Chitral/Kalash and some maps even show Balochistan as part of Afghanistan; so that pisses me off equally.
                        I can't speak on the Hazara conflict because i'm ignorant on the topic and i'm not from KPK. I agree with Chtiral, it shouldn't be part of the province and most nationalist chitralis want a separate province. But all of Baluchistan was part of Afghanistan at one point and and was called "Godar" by Pashtuns because it bordered with water. Afghanistan was not always landlocked.
                        "Revenge is a dish best served cold".

                        -Old Pashtun proverb




                        "My Pashtun Pride i will not hide!"

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Kushan Prince View Post
                          I can't speak on the Hazara conflict because i'm ignorant on the topic and i'm not from KPK. I agree with Chtiral, it shouldn't be part of the province and most nationalist chitralis want a separate province. But all of Baluchistan was part of Afghanistan at one point and and was called "Godar" by Pashtuns because it bordered with water. Afghanistan was not always landlocked.
                          well i've been told by some Baloch nationalists(some guys from the BNP) that Balochistan was only legally part of Afghanistan but they had full autonomy over their affairs, so they weren't really integrated with Afghanistan; at least that's what their story is.
                          "I bow to no one, except ALLAH. I dont bow to punjabay, do not bow to kabulay and afghanay, do not bow to faujay and mullay, do not bow to asfandyarwalay and petty khanays...i am traitor to all of them." - Smartay

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by tripledouble View Post
                            well i've been told by some Baloch nationalists(some guys from the BNP) that Balochistan was only legally part of Afghanistan but they had full autonomy over their affairs, so they weren't really integrated with Afghanistan; at least that's what their story is.
                            This is correct. Most baloch tribesmen had full control of what happened inside the province but Afghans controlled its politics basically like it was colonial America. Although the relationship with Pashtuns and Baloch people have always been a stable one because of cultural similarities.
                            "Revenge is a dish best served cold".

                            -Old Pashtun proverb




                            "My Pashtun Pride i will not hide!"

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Kushan Prince View Post
                              This is correct. Most baloch tribesmen had full control of what happened inside the province but Afghans controlled its politics basically like it was colonial America. Although the relationship with Pashtuns and Baloch people have always been a stable one because of cultural similarities.
                              I've always thought Baloch were close to Sindhis cultural, at least that's what i've observed in my interactions with them; also i've noticed that Baloch from Awaran,Lasbela,Gwadar and other Southern and eastern parts of Balochistan over lap with Sindh, i believe only Baloch in the northwest close to the Afghan border, like Nushki,Kalat,Chagai etc over lap with Pashtuns, otherwise the difference between the two groups is like night and day.
                              "I bow to no one, except ALLAH. I dont bow to punjabay, do not bow to kabulay and afghanay, do not bow to faujay and mullay, do not bow to asfandyarwalay and petty khanays...i am traitor to all of them." - Smartay

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by tripledouble View Post
                                I've always thought Baloch were close to Sindhis cultural, at least that's what i've observed in my interactions with them; also i've noticed that Baloch from Awaran,Lasbela,Gwadar and other Southern and eastern parts of Balochistan over lap with Sindh, i believe only Baloch in the northwest close to the Afghan border, like Nushki,Kalat,Chagai etc over lap with Pashtuns, otherwise the difference between the two groups is like night and day.
                                Well a lot of baloch tribes have Pashtun origins like the mengals, Ahemdzai, Raisani etc. Baloch's are not a homogenous people, they have multiple origins, a lot of sindhis are mixed with baloch's where they could have absorbed cultural traits. Also, the baloch tribal structure is the same as Pashtuns and the clothing is basically the same, not to mention most Baloch carry the Irano-Afghan phenotype but i will leave anthropology out of this.
                                "Revenge is a dish best served cold".

                                -Old Pashtun proverb




                                "My Pashtun Pride i will not hide!"

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