Zalmai Rassoul the traitor!

[randolph85]

Uzbeks are only like 6% of the country

This idiot Ghani really thought that was enough to get him the +50? lol

Is the "ragin cajun" advising him this time again?

[randolph85]

Besides, all these candidates are all technically traitors to the Afghan nation so no surprises here.

[khushal]

How should he have gone about it then? This is Afghanistan we're talking about and unfortunately, like it or not, the warlords and the ethnicized politics is what the country is currently about. Ghani's use of Dostum is just realpolitik/pragmatism and with him, there is at least a remote chance of a political solution with the Taliban. On the other hand, I think most people here know very well what the most likely outcome after Abdullah is going to involve. Ghani is the best of the current options.

Dostom is causing Ghani to be rejected from a segment of the Pashtun populace. He is losing more votes than gaining. Its like Obama allying himself with a KKK member. He would lose many of the black, latino and other minority vote base. I know its Realpolitik but its a very bad strategy.

What should he have done? He should have approached Basherdost or someone from the Rabani camp who are not opposed to peace with the Taliban and are accepted by all ethnic groups.
A good strategy of Realpolitik would have been if he allied himself with Atta or the Fahim family and made some compromise with him. Divide the Tajiks or balance Tajiks by compromising with the Hazaras.

Plan B(after elections) should have been to woo Karzai/Rasoul/Masoud/Sayaf into an alliance but Ax2 has beat him to the punch. The question here is did Rasoul get the 11% on his own hard work or was it Karzai's influence. If it is the latter, he should be sitting with Karzai right now and try to delay the vote into next winter, organize a campaign to get out the Pashtun female vote because the majority of them are not going to the polls.
Who is the idiot that came up with the idea of having the election during peak fighting season. This idea only benefits Northerners. That is the biggest fraud right there.

In essence the Pashtun nationalist is a moron of a high degree on both sides of the Durand because of the hypocrisy. The Tajik nationalist and the Panjabi nationalist has defeated him quite easily reason being it is he who has rejected his people and have embraced an idea that is foreign to his people.

[khushal]

I think most people here know very well what the most likely outcome after Abdullah is going to involve.

What do you think would happen when Ax2 takes the presidency and introduce the federal system. Would he give no choice to the Pashtun nationalist but join in an alliance with the Taliban. That is the likely scenario. Neither the Islamic Emirate nor the Pashtun nationalist wants partition.
While Ax2 has promised the Pakistanis the Durand line would be accepted, regardless of that, Paksitani's are not going to sit around while India entrenches its influence in the North. The question is are the Tajiks and Hazaras going to be able to repel Pashtun attacks when the bulk of international forces leave and would the international community have the stomach to support them for decades. Its not going to be easy for Ax2.

[Bost Bastan News]

Bogus Tajikstan News,

You are a liar and everything you say here has no credibility. You are an extremist Tajik who fears and hate on Ghani on the basis of purely what he is capable than otherwise. He is not relying on no one and that has been proven; he could have courted the fag so called Mohamedzai Rasoul and the big pile of sh!t Gul Agha Sherzai. Asraf Ghani is pretty much poised to garner anything above 85% (more than 3 times what his deputies can bring him) of Pashtun votes and there are speculation that there will be higher turn out as this time. I think Ashraf Ghani can manage you couple with Dostum. With Tajiki fascism Turkistani and Hazaristani nationalism may not be too much of a bad thing after all.

Why do you baztard brush aside Tajiki chauvinism aside, we have been dealing with it for generation now. Why do you label a Pashtun joining another Pashtun's platform, even if it is superior one as being an ethnic reason only? You ******* out of every one have the gal to come and say that?

You hypocrites.

Can you please elaborate which part of my comment was a lie? Mr Ghani without Dostum could get only 22% of all votes. What does this point tell you? Majority of Pashtuns who could vote voted for him, followed by Zalmai Rasul. Mr. Abdullah came on forth position. You can assumpe that around half of Pashtuns have the age and rights of voting and that majority of them will vote but not all of them. Where people haven´t voted or couldn´t vote due security reasons there was occuring riggings and frauds most of the time in favour of Mr. Ghani. You deny? You just prove that you hate Mr. Rasul and Mr. Shirzai because they do not belong to your eastern network. Yet you deny such a thing doesn´t exist. You should not think only from the perspective of a Pashtun but also from the perspective of Hazaras, Uzbeks, Farsiwans, Balochs who also will this time flood the polling stations and more voters will come to support their candidates. Around 15% of Hazara people could not vote, 10% of Uzbeks, around 30% of Farsiwans. All these facts must be considered otherwise your math won´t work. Don´t use insultive words, stay cool, rational and distanced. Be a nice discussion mate.

[Bost Bastan News]

Uzbeks are only like 6% of the country

This idiot Ghani really thought that was enough to get him the +50? lol

Is the "ragin cajun" advising him this time again?

Yes, this guy is this time again busy in promoting Mr. Ghani. He also invited Lisa Hogan and her husband Mr. Garfield, a specialist in Information Warfare of the UK´s royal army, a British closely related with the british Ministry of Defense and its secret service. This Glevum organisation was run by this two person.

[Bost Bastan News]

Its true that Ghani teamed up with Dostum just for uzbek votes but i wouldn't say he's relying on him. Dosutm maybe a warlord but he's a smart one, i believe he has something up his sleeves for the next round.

So he will soon change again sides to be part of the winner team?

[Bost Bastan News]

What do you think would happen when Ax2 takes the presidency and introduce the federal system. Would he give no choice to the Pashtun nationalist but join in an alliance with the Taliban. That is the likely scenario. Neither the Islamic Emirate nor the Pashtun nationalist wants partition.
While Ax2 has promised the Pakistanis the Durand line would be accepted, regardless of that, Paksitani's are not going to sit around while India entrenches its influence in the North. The question is are the Tajiks and Hazaras going to be able to repel Pashtun attacks when the bulk of international forces leave and would the international community have the stomach to support them for decades. Its not going to be easy for Ax2.

I from beginning told you guys all these scenarios but the communist brother always claimed I am talking non sense. The only thing we can right now is to form an alliance with them. If foreign powers leave of course Ghani supporters will run to Islamabad and join Taliban. They have done it already in the 90s. But I think today many things are different. In the past Afghanistan was kept Afghanistan because of religious scholars, paid Khans, promoting of an afghanized Islam but today most people do not listen anymore to those mullahs. Instead ethnic nationalism is rising among all parties. The pashtuns have their natioanlists, the Hazaras have theirs and farsiwans theirs. Hazara nationalists want an independent Hazara state and they don´t care if they will be out of resources as long they are independent. The Farsiwans are right now monopolizing northern and western Afghanistan and with mr. Abdullah´s victory they surely will Farsiwanize all northern provinces. Unlike the 90s they are today in a much better position. They are no more isolated and could built good ties to northern neighbours and western powers. In the 90s this was not the case so it was easy for Taliban to bring many fighters from around the world to fight them, even the Pakistani army to our soil which is the biggest shameless act in our history. The institutions the northerners have owned prove themselves that they are capable to fight Pakistanis and Taliban. When it comes to defend their own regions these people will call all their soldiers from southern and eastern Afghanistan back to north and west. They actually don´t care if Taliban flesh us in the south or somewhere else as long their own regions are kept clean and safe. They would not see any need to fight in our regions. As I mentioned in one of my posts even in Kabul around 1,7 Mio houses originally from north are armed legally and living a life of despote. Every single of them. One of the main reasons why criminal activities are widespreaden in Kabul. I think if Hazaras or anyone wants partition or at least their own state they will do it. A region like Badakhsan which is inhabitet to 92% by Farsiwans has noone that opposes him or can opposes him. If Pashtun nationalist really join Taliban this would be the biggest mistake they can make. They push Pashtuns into terrorism and Pakistaniat. That will be the end of Pashtuns due our own ignorance and our stupid belief Pakis and Arabs are our brothers. The Farsiwans have today enough men, weapons, supply routes and foreign supporters. The key is to show them that a united Afghanistan is more attractive. That we can give them many good things in return. A route to India and Pakistan, security against Pakistanis and many more. https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v...type=2&theater

[Khostai]

Can you please elaborate which part of my comment was a lie? Mr Ghani without Dostum could get only 22% of all votes. What does this point tell you? Majority of Pashtuns who could vote voted for him, followed by Zalmai Rasul. Mr. Abdullah came on forth position. You can assumpe that around half of Pashtuns have the age and rights of voting and that majority of them will vote but not all of them. Where people haven´t voted or couldn´t vote due security reasons there was occuring riggings and frauds most of the time in favour of Mr. Ghani. You deny? You just prove that you hate Mr. Rasul and Mr. Shirzai because they do not belong to your eastern network. Yet you deny such a thing doesn´t exist. You should not think only from the perspective of a Pashtun but also from the perspective of Hazaras, Uzbeks, Farsiwans, Balochs who also will this time flood the polling stations and more voters will come to support their candidates. Around 15% of Hazara people could not vote, 10% of Uzbeks, around 30% of Farsiwans. All these facts must be considered otherwise your math won´t work. Don´t use insultive words, stay cool, rational and distanced. Be a nice discussion mate.

liar most of the frauds was in favour of Abdullah, you facist troll go to your tajikam forums with your hooked nose and flat head.

[torkham]

I don't understand why pashtuns like rasoul and sherzai are joining Abdullah's campaign when they could be teaming up with a fellow pashtun like Ghani. Are they afraid of Ghani's reforms or something?

I think they are following a form of self preservation, all bets on the perceived favourite. Especially if the candidates prioritise their personal fortunes above those they serve. Anything new, phh! Same old same old.

[Azmal]

Bogus Tajikstan News,

You are a liar and everything you say here has no credibility. You are an extremist Tajik who fears and hate on Ghani on the basis of purely what he is capable than otherwise. He is not relying on no one and that has been proven; he could have courted the fag so called Mohamedzai Rasoul and the big pile of sh!t Gul Agha Sherzai. Asraf Ghani is pretty much poised to garner anything above 85% (more than 3 times what his deputies can bring him) of Pashtun votes and there are speculation that there will be higher turn out as this time. I think Ashraf Ghani can manage you couple with Dostum. With Tajiki fascism Turkistani and Hazaristani nationalism may not be too much of a bad thing after all.

Why do you baztard brush aside Tajiki chauvinism aside, we have been dealing with it for generation now. Why do you label a Pashtun joining another Pashtun's platform, even if it is superior one as being an ethnic reason only? You ******* out of every one have the gal to come and say that?

You hypocrites.

More than 1000 polling station in Pashtun region are closed due to security—that’s an estimate 2 million Pashtun vote. In addition the systematic cheating by Abullah2X—12 million eligible and 18 million voting card in circulation…. and his fooling of naïve pashtuns that he is Pashtun by blood and treason of fag pashutns like Rassul and Gulagha will have its impact. Chances are the election will not go to second round.
Abdullah2X agenda---parliamentary system, hinting to accept the imaginary Durand line and all the Khorassani/Setamis pigs ganging around him are very frightening. I would think America has reached an agreement with Iran and Abdullah will win---pashtun will be turned into punching bags---Talibans will be kept alive to be used against Russia/China in future dates.

[Azmal]

What do you mean how so. Did he not choose him to get the Uzbek votes.

Your saying he is relying on no one, that he does not need fatboy Sherzai and unmarried Rasoul, that he can do it all by himself, then why did he ally with someone that is far worse than these two.

If it was not for your hero Gulbobo Rocketyar and other criminal like Talitibi and sold-out like Karzia…Pashtuns like Ghani would not need to rely on anyone. Pashtuns make an absolute majority and do not need others to rule their own land. The fact is Abullah2X represent Tajiks Interest, Dostum Uzbaks, and Mohaqiq that of Hazara…but there is no one to represent Pashtuns interest. We are being killed left, right and center for others war and others interest.

[Azmal]

Besides, all these candidates are all technically traitors to the Afghan nation so no surprises here.

Morons are like you are the real reason we pashtuns have turned into punching bags in the region. Next you will know, we will have Picture of Tajik Abdullah2x as a our president while our brothers across the border will have Gujrati Jenah Ponjee pic---what a sad state for a brave nation...what a shame!

[Herat]

What do you think would happen when Ax2 takes the presidency and introduce the federal system. Would he give no choice to the Pashtun nationalist but join in an alliance with the Taliban. That is the likely scenario. Neither the Islamic Emirate nor the Pashtun nationalist wants partition.
While Ax2 has promised the Pakistanis the Durand line would be accepted, regardless of that, Paksitani's are not going to sit around while India entrenches its influence in the North. The question is are the Tajiks and Hazaras going to be able to repel Pashtun attacks when the bulk of international forces leave and would the international community have the stomach to support them for decades. Its not going to be easy for Ax2.

On second thought you have a point (there were far better alternatives to Dostum). And my expectation is basically the same: a civil war will likely follow Abdullah, with the Taliban emerging victorious again. Afghanistan will stabilize one way or the other, the question is how to get there as quickly as possible and without much bloodshed -Abdullah is clearly not the best choice there.

[Toramana]

I think they are following a form of self preservation, all bets on the perceived favourite. Especially if the candidates prioritise their personal fortunes above those they serve. Anything new, phh! Same old same old.

I agree with that. From the perspective of post 2014 situation with many uncertainties, they may be cognizant of the risk to their lives. They might have studied the emerging scenario and the Western priorities and come to the conclusion that the safest option is alliance with Abdullah that may be good either way, physical protection as well as share in power and influence.

It wouldn't be surprising if other liberal Pashtun elite also decide so.