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  • #31
    Punjabis love Pashtuns, so this man is probably a minority among his people.

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    • #32
      Mullah or no mullah his words are directing toward a holocaust type genocide against Pashtuns, I say off with his head. Punjabis don't have the heart to fight against Pashtuns, I think it's been a long time since these new generations tasted some tribal ferocity.
      no they use american cia drone programm , by blackmailing people in a random way or use american provided f 16 jets .



      the main problem is very simple to define :

      lack of a serious political direction and movement for the pashtun nation , which represent not only the limited and shortsighted selfinteresst of certain people , but the interesst of the majority of the people . not the interest of the noexistent "ummah ", not the interest of international working class , muslim brothers or democracy . but your own interest .

      the lack of capable leadership which have expertise , legitimacy , and vision .


      look at al haiwans avatar , the pos has got two of the biggest enemies of afghans in this picture .

      the isi devil and the gun holding mercenery , i can not remember one single good thing which haqqani or his familiy has done for afghans and pashtuns , beside open his hand for isi dollars and murdering innocent people , not the one who deserved it but the innocent ones !

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Manzareh View Post
        Mullah or no mullah his words are directing toward a holocaust type genocide against Pashtuns, I say off with his head. Punjabis don't have the heart to fight against Pashtuns, I think it's been a long time since these new generations tasted some tribal ferocity.
        this time around the punjabis have the education/economy/weaponry to easily kill millions of pashtuns if they wanted.
        There are people today who think that admitting God’s absolute greatness decreases the value and importance of humans in the creation, as if God and mankind are rivals competing in greatness and power. Meanwhile I feel that whenever our perception of God’s greatness increases, with it we become greater, because we are the creation of a great God.

        Sayyid Qutb

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Khostai View Post
          Pansjer days are over, they only had power in the last couple of years due to US and western backing, but they also had enough of them and soon you will see the end.

          So what if he uses the word Afghan? We all know who he means by it, Pathan Pakhtun or Afghan its all the same for them, they dont even make a difference between them.
          Panjsheri days are not over.You are living in different world and know very little back home.
          They dominate the army,Intelligence,media and trade.

          They are even calling pashtuns paki agents.
          It is fact pashtuns lost the power to punjsheris and they are the dicission makers of new afghanistan.

          Their man abdullah is leading in the vote held this month.
          The future afghan govt will also be influence by them.

          Dr Ghani who himself is patriotic afghan-pashtun leader was called paki agent by them.
          On the other side no one can say the same for abdullah .
          This is what happen in war.
          The real pashtuns are disadvantage people on both side of durand.
          Lets hope Ghani sb win.



          Support pashto language and greater pukhtoonkhwa.

          pa prady jaba khabarai pakhtun naka
          be laila bala soda kho majnon naka
          gero jabo kre lahoo pa khpal tahzeeb ki
          be pakhtu ba de bal hestsok rastoon naka
          hamza baba
          پَښتو کښې اُولېکئ
          Pashto Keyboard Online (Afghan) LEXILOGOS >>

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Kushan Prince View Post
            This man and the rest of the pakis want to kill all tribal pashtuns because FATA pashtuns are the least pro pakistan and hate pakistan. They govern themselves, and this is a big headache to the pakis and ISI because the fear these pashtuns will destroy their haram british created nation. If ghamidi and his goons even try to attempt this tactic, they will reveal their evil side and true intentions to the world and we will see what the rest of the muslim world does to them.

            I hope Tribal Pasthuns and the baloch resistance army join hands to take down these paki parasites.
            who will supply the arm and money to pashtuns?
            your country leader is great friend of pakistan.
            Did,nt karzai said this,,,,if pakistan was attacked we will fight for pakistan?
            watch
            Afghanistan would back Pakistan if US or India attack: Karzai - YouTube
            THESE westren afgs are talking from their back.
            Afghan leadership and govt of today never ever supported pashtuns of east.They never even said few words for the suffering of pashtuns.

            The pashtuns of afghanistan are fall into the ,,isi,,game.

            It is fact iran backed N/A and pakistan has influence over pashtuns of afghanistan.
            When Ahmad shah masoud gained power that was the start of ethnic war in afghanistan.Pashtuns of afg had no other choice but to beg punjabis for support.
            From gulo to omar and karzai find me a single pashtuns not influenced by pakistan?
            Till this day pakistani govt enjoy good relation with pashtun leadership of afghanistan.

            Karzai refused to back baluchs and i am sure the future afghan will do the same.
            So for any arm struggle you need help.
            The help will not come from the sky.

            Afghans must know that if they realy want afghanistan to become free and strong.They should support baluchs.
            Once we free Baluchistan then there will be no pakistan.
            Think about what will happen?



            Support pashto language and greater pukhtoonkhwa.

            pa prady jaba khabarai pakhtun naka
            be laila bala soda kho majnon naka
            gero jabo kre lahoo pa khpal tahzeeb ki
            be pakhtu ba de bal hestsok rastoon naka
            hamza baba
            پَښتو کښې اُولېکئ
            Pashto Keyboard Online (Afghan) LEXILOGOS >>

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Al-Afghani View Post
              Punjabis love Pashtuns, so this man is probably a minority among his people.
              punjabis love pashtuns for many reasons.
              For example they need pashtuns to free kashmir and fight india.
              They need talib type pakhtuns to creat pupet govt in afg.
              On the other side tajik nationalists made thier job easy to do business in afg.
              Hamid Gul and his gang memebers are everywhere.
              At present pashtuns are in bad position.
              Pashtuns should look outside this region for help.
              Here punjabis are using them and hate them.
              So as iran.



              Support pashto language and greater pukhtoonkhwa.

              pa prady jaba khabarai pakhtun naka
              be laila bala soda kho majnon naka
              gero jabo kre lahoo pa khpal tahzeeb ki
              be pakhtu ba de bal hestsok rastoon naka
              hamza baba
              پَښتو کښې اُولېکئ
              Pashto Keyboard Online (Afghan) LEXILOGOS >>

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              • #37
                I would say pashtuns should even join hands with isrealis against punjabis and others.
                The west hate us so as arabs and iranians so where should we go.
                The best option is isreal and india.



                Support pashto language and greater pukhtoonkhwa.

                pa prady jaba khabarai pakhtun naka
                be laila bala soda kho majnon naka
                gero jabo kre lahoo pa khpal tahzeeb ki
                be pakhtu ba de bal hestsok rastoon naka
                hamza baba
                پَښتو کښې اُولېکئ
                Pashto Keyboard Online (Afghan) LEXILOGOS >>

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by gadoonwal View Post
                  who will supply the arm and money to pashtuns?
                  your country leader is great friend of pakistan.
                  Did,nt karzai said this,,,,if pakistan was attacked we will fight for pakistan?
                  watch
                  Afghanistan would back Pakistan if US or India attack: Karzai - YouTube
                  THESE westren afgs are talking from their back.
                  Afghan leadership and govt of today never ever supported pashtuns of east.They never even said few words for the suffering of pashtuns.
                  Thank you for thiese nice words. It is true. The old regimes thought by giving eastern Pashtuns a bigger role in the army and police they will be pleased and don´t ask for human rights, better education, equality or better living standards. Indeed. What a shame. This minimalist policy resulted that eastern Pashtuns took power after saur revolution and represented from then on every regime. The communists, the Islamists, the Taliban, the Haqqanis and so on because they were forced to. Sometimes you share very smart information.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by gadoonwal View Post
                    Panjsheri days are not over.You are living in different world and know very little back home.
                    They dominate the army,Intelligence,media and trade.

                    They are even calling pashtuns paki agents.
                    It is fact pashtuns lost the power to punjsheris and they are the dicission makers of new afghanistan.

                    Their man abdullah is leading in the vote held this month.
                    The future afghan govt will also be influence by them.

                    Dr Ghani who himself is patriotic afghan-pashtun leader was called paki agent by them.
                    On the other side no one can say the same for abdullah .
                    This is what happen in war.
                    The real pashtuns are disadvantage people on both side of durand.
                    Lets hope Ghani sb win.
                    They are as good as over, after this election if Ghani wins those bithces going to be ousted, even other Tajiks have enough of them. And please don't compare our situation to that of PAkistan. We had 35 years of war and the minorities are backed by the world super power, that in this time PAshtun are not the dominant party is not a surprise, but still we are making our way to improve the situation, I could not say that about your Paki Pathans.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Khostai View Post
                      They are as good as over, after this election if Ghani wins those bithces going to be ousted, even other Tajiks have enough of them. And please don't compare our situation to that of PAkistan. We had 35 years of war and the minorities are backed by the world super power, that in this time PAshtun are not the dominant party is not a surprise, but still we are making our way to improve the situation, I could not say that about your Paki Pathans.
                      How?

                      I can also show you a video where a Hazara of ANA is beating a Innocent pashtun while a british soldier is capturing the video laughing.

                      ANA is the future of Afghanistan,And Like Pakistani army,they will also dominate the Afghanistan.Even expect a coup in future once the Western troops leave.I am also afraid that ANA certainly doesnt has Good image of pashtun,Infact only pashtuns are seen as Terrorist in Afghanistan.

                      Afghanistan is at war from the past 35years but it is a enough older country than Pakistan.Even in the 50's Pakistan was in better position than Afghanistan let alone in the 60's when Pakistan was champion of Per capita income in south asia.

                      Pakistan is at war since its inception.

                      Accept the realities and don't live in fools paradise,I know the ground realities within both the countries much more than you sitting in the west and havent been to Afghanistan ever in your life.
                      "[B][SIZE="3"]Seer Speen Wazeer[/SIZE][/B]"

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by gadoonwal View Post
                        I would say pashtuns should even join hands with isrealis against punjabis and others.
                        The west hate us so as arabs and iranians so where should we go.
                        The best option is isreal and india.
                        So you want to join hands with a bunch of jews who bomb muslims on a daily basis just because of your paranoia for punjabis? The kurds tried this and now they are one of the most hated people in the middle east for it.

                        You're a mental nutcase.
                        Last edited by Kushan Prince; 04-17-2014, 09:55 AM.
                        "Revenge is a dish best served cold".

                        -Old Pashtun proverb




                        "My Pashtun Pride i will not hide!"

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by gadoonwal View Post
                          who will supply the arm and money to pashtuns?
                          your country leader is great friend of pakistan.
                          Did,nt karzai said this,,,,if pakistan was attacked we will fight for pakistan?
                          watch
                          Afghanistan would back Pakistan if US or India attack: Karzai - YouTube[/URL]
                          THESE westren afgs are talking from their back.
                          Afghan leadership and govt of today never ever supported pashtuns of east.They never even said few words for the suffering of pashtuns.

                          The pashtuns of afghanistan are fall into the ,,isi,,game.

                          It is fact iran backed N/A and pakistan has influence over pashtuns of afghanistan.
                          When Ahmad shah masoud gained power that was the start of ethnic war in afghanistan.Pashtuns of afg had no other choice but to beg punjabis for support.
                          From gulo to omar and karzai find me a single pashtuns not influenced by pakistan?
                          Till this day pakistani govt enjoy good relation with pashtun leadership of afghanistan.

                          Karzai refused to back baluchs and i am sure the future afghan will do the same.
                          So for any arm struggle you need help.
                          The help will not come from the sky.

                          Afghans must know that if they realy want afghanistan to become free and strong.They should support baluchs.
                          Once we free Baluchistan then there will be no pakistan.
                          Think about what will happen?
                          Keep in mind that this is all politics for karzai and he even once said that afg and pak are like "distant brothers." He may have said this because there are millions of pashtuns living in pakistan or to strengthen relations with pakistan.
                          "Revenge is a dish best served cold".

                          -Old Pashtun proverb




                          "My Pashtun Pride i will not hide!"

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Da Bannu Mazdigar View Post
                            How?

                            I can also show you a video where a Hazara of ANA is beating a Innocent pashtun while a british soldier is capturing the video laughing.

                            ANA is the future of Afghanistan,And Like Pakistani army,they will also dominate the Afghanistan.Even expect a coup in future once the Western troops leave.I am also afraid that ANA certainly doesnt has Good image of pashtun,Infact only pashtuns are seen as Terrorist in Afghanistan.

                            Afghanistan is at war from the past 35years but it is a enough older country than Pakistan.Even in the 50's Pakistan was in better position than Afghanistan let alone in the 60's when Pakistan was champion of Per capita income in south asia.

                            Pakistan is at war since its inception.

                            Accept the realities and don't live in fools paradise,I know the ground realities within both the countries much more than you sitting in the west and havent been to Afghanistan ever in your life.
                            Pakistan is bombing and breading there own terrorists, but this topic is not even about Afghanistan, I don't know why you Paki Pathans always bring up Afghanistan in to it when sombody critises you dirty country???Does it make you feel beter that if you know that Pashtun in Afghanistan als has it no better?

                            And how is Pakistan better than Afghanistan if we talk about PAshtun cases when you FATA is looking no better than what a war torn landlocked country looks like, the economical growth and developmnet in PAkstan is all in Punjab. So please wake up from you rose buble dream and see the reality and how your country men are treated.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Khostai View Post
                              Pakistan is bombing and breading there own terrorists, but this topic is not even about Afghanistan, I don't know why you Paki Pathans always bring up Afghanistan in to it when sombody critises you dirty country???Does it make you feel beter that if you know that Pashtun in Afghanistan als has it no better?

                              And how is Pakistan better than Afghanistan if we talk about PAshtun cases when you FATA is looking no better than what a war torn landlocked country looks like, the economical growth and developmnet in PAkstan is all in Punjab. So please wake up from you rose buble dream and see the reality and how your country men are treated.
                              Indeed,The reason i told you to accept the Ground realities and Don't live in the fools paradise.

                              *Kabuli
                              "[B][SIZE="3"]Seer Speen Wazeer[/SIZE][/B]"

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Admin Khan View Post
                                It's a known fact that in Pakistan, Pashtuns are second class citizens and treated and viewed as chowkidar Jahils. Being called Akharuth, or bring incredibly surprised at your eduction is normal in places like Karachi or Lahore.

                                Pashtuns are already considered red Indians in Karachi. At one point, if you were speaking Pashto in a MQM district, they would cut off the ears of Pashtuns. To be fair though, Pashtuns would retaliate as well, especially on Sohrab Goth.
                                It is very funny. 'Pathans' who have been in India/Eastern Pakistan for generations and now speak Urdu/Punjabi are almost idolized in Lahore, whereas pashto speaking pashtuns are treated as you say above. Every time I hear a 'pathan' (I have many in my family) make a pashtun stupidity joke (we've all heard 'em) it annoys me.

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