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  • #16
    This is partail result.Only 10% vote counted.
    Abdullah also claimed he has strong support in the remaining 8 provinces.
    I ask the anti-dostum members HERE, was not abudllah part of N/A?
    IS he still not the leader of northren allaince?
    He was spokesman for northren allaince.
    Dostum has the gutts and he apologised for his crimes.
    While the criminals allaince continue their activities.
    Ghani is the last hope for peacefull,stable and economically strong afghanistan.
    The afghans already had a bad experience with northren allaince.
    I think someone is playing a big game here.
    Pashtun vote was divided.
    Abdullah ,s influence is limited to one part of the country and he could,nt reach to the pashtun south.
    His northren allaince fought talibs for years so he may not reach for peace with talibs.
    Pakistan and iran will once again start their ethnic game in afghanistan.
    Afghanistan need nutral person and Ghani was a better choice among others.
    Lets hope for peace even if abdullah win.
    In war only poor people suffer.Any war in afghanistan will suffer pashtuns more then others.
    Pashtuns will be killed in any war,keep my words.
    In democratic system whoever win has the right to form the govt.
    What karzai did for pashtu and pashtuns?
    He was speaking in persain most of the time .
    I see no difference between abdullah and karzai type pashtuns.

    If election held free and fair all people need to accept the result.
    Abdullah ,s agenda is known to most afghans lets see what happen.



    Support pashto language and greater pukhtoonkhwa.

    pa prady jaba khabarai pakhtun naka
    be laila bala soda kho majnon naka
    gero jabo kre lahoo pa khpal tahzeeb ki
    be pakhtu ba de bal hestsok rastoon naka
    hamza baba
    پَښتو کښې اُولېکئ
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    • #17
      Originally posted by afghan View Post
      the media is playing games i guess, its gonna give abdulla an excuse later that he got cheated. Ghani has won the election, let abdullah enjoy few moments of his victory from 500000 outa 8 millions votes.
      The head of election commission Mr noristani anounce this in media .
      To early to declare a winner.



      Support pashto language and greater pukhtoonkhwa.

      pa prady jaba khabarai pakhtun naka
      be laila bala soda kho majnon naka
      gero jabo kre lahoo pa khpal tahzeeb ki
      be pakhtu ba de bal hestsok rastoon naka
      hamza baba
      پَښتو کښې اُولېکئ
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      • #18
        Originally posted by gadoonwal View Post
        This is partail result.Only 10% vote counted.
        Abdullah also claimed he has strong support in the remaining 8 provinces.
        I ask the anti-dostum members HERE, was not abudllah part of N/A?
        IS he still not the leader of northren allaince?
        He was spokesman for northren allaince.
        Dostum has the gutts and he apologised for his crimes.
        While the criminals allaince continue their activities.
        Ghani is the last hope for peacefull,stable and economically strong afghanistan.
        The afghans already had a bad experience with northren allaince.
        I think someone is playing a big game here.
        Pashtun vote was divided.
        Abdullah ,s influence is limited to one part of the country and he could,nt reach to the pashtun south.
        His northren allaince fought talibs for years so he may not reach for peace with talibs.
        Pakistan and iran will once again start their ethnic game in afghanistan.
        Afghanistan need nutral person and Ghani was a better choice among others.
        Lets hope for peace even if abdullah win.
        In war only poor people suffer.Any war in afghanistan will suffer pashtuns more then others.
        Pashtuns will be killed in any war,keep my words.
        In democratic system whoever win has the right to form the govt.
        What karzai did for pashtu and pashtuns?
        He was speaking in persain most of the time .
        I see no difference between abdullah and karzai type pashtuns.

        If election held free and fair all people need to accept the result.
        Abdullah ,s agenda is known to most afghans lets see what happen.
        Ghani neutral? LOL Ghani is a pashtun nationalist who has several times praised taliban. With him Afghanistan will become a de facto paki province. Same with Abdullah but with Iran instead of Pakistan.

        Stupid americans. They could finish the war in 2001 but they did not. Now our country is a mess and every day dozen of afghans get killed.

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        • #19
          All these candidiates are good but no one of them undestand the the true politics of this region except amrullah saleh

          Earlier it was Pakistan,Now even Iran has evil plans for Afghanistan.And iran this time is much more serious than Pakistan considering that even they now have mastered the art of proxy war by creating and funding hezbullah and the lead role in syria

          One thing let me clear that neither Pakistan nor iran has any wish to include any part of its territory into their countries.But they want a background to carry out other such activities.
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          • #20
            Originally posted by Da Bannu Mazdigar View Post
            All these candidiates are good but no one of them undestand the the true politics of this region except amrullah saleh

            Earlier it was Pakistan,Now even Iran has evil plans for Afghanistan.And iran this time is much more serious than Pakistan considering that even they now have mastered the art of proxy war by creating and funding hezbullah and the lead role in syria

            One thing let me clear that neither Pakistan nor iran has any wish to include any part of its territory into their countries.But they want a background to carry out other such activities.
            Iran main focus is now Iraq and Syria, they don't have any border disputes with Afghanistan or what so ever, they are not interested in Afghanistan, becuase they themself have a nice strategic spot and have plenty of natural recources, they don't care who will come to power, they couldn't do much with the joke of a goverment that Taliban had, so wht the hell are they going to do now?

            I know persian-nationalist have a feel secial conection to that country, but the truth is they look at them like they are some kind of animals, this is apparent how they treat them in theire country.

            The on and true enemy is still Pakistan, we must be really cerfull with that country.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Khostai View Post
              Iran main focus is now Iraq and Syria, they don't have any border disputes with Afghanistan or what so ever, they are not interested in Afghanistan, becuase they themself have a nice strategic spot and have plenty of natural recources, they don't care who will come to power, they couldn't do much with the joke of a goverment that Taliban had, so wht the hell are they going to do now?

              I know persian-nationalist have a feel secial conection to that country, but the truth is they look at them like they are some kind of animals, this is apparent how they treat them in theire country.

              The on and true enemy is still Pakistan, we must be really cerfull with that country.

              It is not about boder disputes,Even with Border dispute with Pakistan has already acknowledged that not only in this century but for the next couple of centuries,Afghanistan still won't have the capability to annex any part of Pakistan.

              Pakistan in the past wanted a strategic depth but as now even American writers has acknowledged that Pakistan strategic depth are its nukes,if required even threatening can stop any war at any point and Pakistan,india are running toward a transformation of understanding where both the countries has realized that even short battles will end up affecting their long term economic plans.This is the reason india has proposed,I repeat india not Pakistan has proposed to convert LOC into International border,Still Pakistan is the only one struck with claiming 100% kashmir

              So Pakistan today is also not worried about any foriegn force in afghanistan since now Pakistan is seriously considering fencing the border once for all.

              Pakistan also doesnt want to merge any part of afghanistan into it,Since if ever a merger of Pakistan and Afghanistan happened.Punjabis and the rest of pakistanis will form a new country for themselves forcing kpk,fata and southern balochistan to seperate from Pakistan.

              Iran has alot of plans,They need a ground to play their proxy in..

              Today pakisan is alot more sincere with Afghansitan than iran.It is a fact whether you admit it or not
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              • #22
                Originally posted by Da Bannu Mazdigar View Post
                All these candidiates are good but no one of them undestand the the true politics of this region except amrullah saleh

                Earlier it was Pakistan,Now even Iran has evil plans for Afghanistan.And iran this time is much more serious than Pakistan considering that even they now have mastered the art of proxy war by creating and funding hezbullah and the lead role in syria

                One thing let me clear that neither Pakistan nor iran has any wish to include any part of its territory into their countries.But they want a background to carry out other such activities.
                Iran has his own secret agenda in afghanistan. Iran has spent millions in Afghanistan specially in Herat. Their aim is to reach Central Asia through west/north afghanistan and connect with China, Russia, Tajikistan and Uzbekistan. But at least they don't support militias in afghanistan unlike Pakistan and they are not that bad neighbor. I must say my main complain on iran is how they treat afghan refugees in there. Pakistanis have treated much better afghans than iranians.

                Pakistan is our main enemy. Pakistan wants to annex parts of south and east afghanistan. We afghans will never tolerate this.

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                • #23
                  BTW when I say "Pakistan is our main enemy" I mean ISI and pakistani army. No problem with ordinary pakistani people.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by vinyard80 View Post
                    Iran has his own secret agenda in afghanistan. Iran has spent millions in Afghanistan specially in Herat. Their aim is to reach Central Asia through west/north afghanistan and connect with China, Russia, Tajikistan and Uzbekistan. But at least they don't support militias in afghanistan unlike Pakistan and they are not that bad neighbor. I must say my main complain on iran is how they treat afghan refugees in there. Pakistanis have treated much better afghans than iranians.

                    Pakistan is our main enemy. Pakistan wants to annex parts of south and east afghanistan. We afghans will never tolerate this.

                    Sorry,But i don't agree with you.The fact is that Pakistan never ever had plan to annex any part of Afghanistan Because Pakistan or in short the punjabis doesnt want to see the afghan pashtun to be part of Pakistan..And beleive me if it ever happen,The punjabis will kick out the pashtun region from Pakistan.

                    If pakistan ever wanted to annex any part of afghanistan,it would have done it after 1992.When Afghanistan had non existing resistance and pakistan didnt had any internal conflict.

                    Pakistan in the past might be evil But today the bigger threat is iran.Rest is all upto you,believe it or not.

                    But to make it in short for you.Pakistan will be more than happy to annex any part of Afghanistan but if with the land,Afghan pashtuns are also said to get into Pak.Than atleast the punjabis will won't let it happen including the army
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                    • #25
                      The fact is that Pakistan won't gain anything from annexing any part of Afghanistan.

                      The 3Trillion dollars reserves are note even equal to the only single site riko diq reserves of balochistan worth 3trillion dollars.which Pakistan is yet to extract,Hence even for resources Pakistan won't want to invade Afghanistan considering that a single division in Pakistan has more resources than the whole of Afghanistan combined,Just add to this the among the world largest shale oil and gas reserves in Sindh verified by Western sources including EIA
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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by gadoonwal View Post
                        The head of election commission Mr noristani anounce this in media .
                        To early to declare a winner.
                        we all know who these guys are.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Da Bannu Mazdigar View Post
                          Sorry,But i don't agree with you.The fact is that Pakistan never ever had plan to annex any part of Afghanistan Because Pakistan or in short the punjabis doesnt want to see the afghan pashtun to be part of Pakistan..And beleive me if it ever happen,The punjabis will kick out the pashtun region from Pakistan.

                          If pakistan ever wanted to annex any part of afghanistan,it would have done it after 1992.When Afghanistan had non existing resistance and pakistan didnt had any internal conflict.

                          Pakistan in the past might be evil But today the bigger threat is iran.Rest is all upto you,believe it or not.

                          But to make it in short for you.Pakistan will be more than happy to annex any part of Afghanistan but if with the land,Afghan pashtuns are also said to get into Pak.Than atleast the punjabis will won't let it happen including the army
                          Pakistan annexed afghanistan from 1996 to 2001. We became de facto pakistans fifth province. Don't get me wrong. I think you are a nice guy and you are being honest but never ask an afghan to trust pakistan. We have suffered a lot because of your country and will never forget it.


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                          Iran is not our enemy. They have their own interest in our country but I must say that Iran despite they are always looking down on us they have helped a lot afghanistan and actually they still doing. We know very well who talibans are and were their headquarters are. Shura Quetta, Haqqani, Hekmatyar,.. all of them are pakistani proxies.

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