Do you support Durrand line?

[PakistaniWazir]

Typical rubbish...u never replied with my points except by comparing the poorest country in the world to Pakistan....I told u i am marwat so u cant use that robotic talk on me

Marwat are one of the most proud pakistanis go to lakki marwat and say your an afghanay they will disown you

if you love afghanistan so much then plz go to afghanistan and live there, give your pakistani rupees and electricity to somebody who is deserve it more than a confused person such as you

[Nadir Shah]

Pakistan does not see tribal areas as a nusience

it is the afghani immigrants who fled there when america invaded as the real nuisence

its funny how these afghanis love to speak and picture pakistans state the same as their country hahaha

in pakistan you can walk on the street with your wife without her being raped by a member of a rival warlord

in pakistan you can get basic education while in afghanistan they have not heard of what is A and B and C.

there is no pakistani in afghanistan begging on the streets of kabul there not a single but in pakistan there is many

so please re think your views with reality

Malgariya, who has supported the terminology of 'Ilaaqa ye Ghair' for the Tribal Areas? Have you forgotten the day when a popular Pakistani news channel ran a story after a blast in Lahore saying 'Wo koyee Pathaan type bandaa tha'.

[Zarawar]

Mr Saifullah

When Wazirs were slaughtering British for freedom for Pashtuns the germans and italians were supplying us with many weapons and aid it was your Afghanistan on order of Soviet union to block these supplies.

So like I said before what has Afghanistan done for Pashtuns at the time when war is going on for pashtun freedom. your afghanistan run away as usual

Also Saifullah when the russians were in afghanistan it was the people of waziristan who sheltered the 1000s of majjars from afghanistan, we fed you and kept you safe under our tribal customs.

when america invaded your nameless country it was the people of waziristan who sheltered you again but inreturn you brutalised,slaughtered and killed so many tribal maliks under the name of being friend of america and pakistan.

what do you mean by fix our villages?

in pakistan there are many wazirs in great positions of government show me in afghanistan where there is a single pashtun so great that he has to speak in dari to be respected????

you hate all pakistani pashtuns even though we allow you onto our land. you are right when soviets left what did you do to your fellow afghanis???????? and now you want to drag pakistan into your way of mind

"your Afghanistan run away as usual"
Wror ta pa koma donya ye ?

Pakistanai wos yow Afghan ta peghor warkawee?

Tar parona mo da hindwano botona pakawal aw ta bya ghairat yadawey.

The tribesmen that sheltered us in Miram Shah, Mir Ali, and Angor ada were not WAZIRS with YOUR mentality.

You might trick these people (that has never been to that area). Ma pakey wakht ter karai.

Wazir that are fighting the Pakistani government, are the sons and the kind of legendary Epi.

People with your mentality existed during the Russian wars too. If you really did shelter an Afghan or two. It wasn't for free, Pakistan was getting BILLIONS of dollars from the international community (sums/funds that Pakistan had never ever seen in their real lives before).

You despise Afghans and talk about them like we went to Pashtunkhwa and destroyed it for Pakistan. Whereas in reality, Pashtunkhwa e.g. (peshawar, khyber dara etc) got to where they are today because of the refugees.

Not to mention the stinger missiles and other weaponry that was coming to Pakistan during the soviet era (egyption, chinese, American and european weaponry)

You said "we fed you", you didn't feed us, UN/US/international community funneled billions for us so we dont STARVE to death. Again, not to mention how many Pakistanies are still benefiting from Afghans living in Pakistan (i.e. huge businesses and corporations).

you said : "when america invaded your nameless country it was the people of waziristan who sheltered you again but inreturn you brutalised,slaughtered and killed so many tribal maliks under the name of being friend of america and pakistan."
We didn't kill your Tribal elders, PAKISTANIES/ISI did.

we had no intentions of killing your elders, as a matter of fact the elders were mostly the only one that were Pro-Afghanistan.
Again, you are talking like Pakistan is not invaded. The only difference b/w Afghanistan and Pakistan invasion of the west is that the Afghans are actually resisting to it while the Pakistanies are the ones fueling/supporting it.

I can assure you that Karzai being a puppet of the west has more guts to speak about the west than any of Pakistan's leaders.

THESE ARE YOUR WORDS :
"in pakistan there are many wazirs in great positions of government show me in afghanistan where there is a single pashtun so great that he has to speak in dari to be respected????"

Are you out of your mined? I mean I understand alot of Afghans brag about how Pashtu needs to be better than how it is right now. But, that doesn't mean the Pashtuns of Pakistan are enjoying the primary form of Pashtunwali.

Our consititional terms, our military, police, traffic and all government terms are written in Pashtu.

More than 60% of the cabinet ministers are Pashtun..

The president is Pashtun

The defense minister, interior, education, finance etc are all pashtuns

Majority of the mayors and governors are Pashtuns.

Oh and when I say Pashtun, I don't mean the pashtun you are talking about. I'm tlaking about Pashtuns with last names like "Ahmadzai, Kakar, Zazai, popalzai, Mangal" etc. They are not only pashtuns by blood but pashtuns by tongue also. Unlike Sherpao or the Pakistanies that cannot speak a word of Pashtu in public or media conference.

This "Pashtu, Dari" issue is nothing but a fake image and generalization. Pashtu is still very powerful in Afghanistan, specially in Kabul. In this case specially if compared with Pakistan lol

[PakistaniWazir]

Good point MQM are indian muhajir RULING pakistan....all the famous news stations and newspapers like JANG, GEO TV, ARY TV and rich people are all indian muhajirs...lol....

well an indian majjar is probably more patrotic than a afghani majjar

show me single contribution of an afghani immigrant in pakistan besides two words trouble and havoc

[Saifullah]

Badigulla khpal marwatano na tapoos waka, aa kho zaan ta afghan na wayi, walay?

Zaan ta Afghan na wayi, kho zan ta pashtun wayi aw poyegi chi munga tol pukhtana Afghanistan na raghalay u..the pashtuns who hate afghans who took their job, they also hate their neighbours...like marwat would not like a bannuchi guy to come to their village and have a great business, they wouldnt even like their cousin to...so hatred of pashtuns isnt limited to Afghans, but to everybody....

[Nadir Shah]

every terrorist in pakistan always seems to be an afghani

doesnt this tell you something or are you yourself delusioned?

why do you bring inner tribal fighting into this eh you afghanis cant even dare to see a ghilzai in government when your durrani king was doing kwaneetub with his dari speaking friends in govt

why are you so keen in taking away pakistani land eh

show me a single protest or political group in pakistan who wants to join afghanistan

it is like going back into time

no matter how back or backward pakhtunkhwa or tribal region is atleast we have educated people with good businesses and qualifications and respect in the world

waziristan is just a small part of pakistan i feel sad for those in peshawer who have suffered under the constant criminality of afghanis who smuggle drugs, sell women and other ill things of society

Malgariya, are the Jaish e Muhammad, Sipah e Sahaba, Lashkar e Toyba, Harkat ul Ansar, Harkat ul Mujahideen, Jamaat ud Daawa and al-Badr guys Afghans? Pakistan is the biggest factory of terrorists and it has exported them to all corners of the world.

[Millatpal Noorzai]

Urdu is national language of Pakistan....mind it Shlombay

and in urdu, if u want to call any person from Afghanistan, u ll call him Afghani...its literary word. Mind it plz

Salamona S/O Mountains,


The term "Afghan" is driven from Afghan constitution as a national reference/identity for its citizens and is thus considered to be part of the sovereign yet dignified state terminology.In accordance to U.N. resolutions no language or nation could change the national reference or identity of another country forsaken its own literature.

Pa Dranawi
Or BA IHTERAM as you might say in Pakistan

[PakistaniWazir]

Wazir I used that as an example because that is where Pakistan and Afghanistan have a border.

Chaman and Boldak and Kandaharis have roots they have married one another. A Achakzai from Quetta sees no differences from an Achakzai from Kandahar. A Noorzai from Kandahar sees no differences from a Noorzai in Quetta.

by shutting down the border what do you want them to do? Have you ever been to the border area? Boldak? Spin Boldak?

or have you spent all your live in a cave in Waziristan?

For members like yourself we need MazloomyaarMaseed. He wouldve checked if you really are from Waziristan.

mahmood achakzai is a proud pakistani his own family has married into balochis i know this very well

if they are so called kandaharis then why they serve pakistan and have pakistani id cards?

[Nadir Shah]

well an indian majjar is probably more patrotic than a afghani majjar

show me single contribution of an afghani immigrant in pakistan besides two words trouble and havoc

Malgariya, of course the Indian Maajar is patriotic to Pakistan. His whole life and existence depends upon this unnatural and illegitimate state.

[Saifullah]

well an indian majjar is probably more patrotic than a afghani majjar

show me single contribution of an afghani immigrant in pakistan besides two words trouble and havoc

So musharraf and altaf hussain didnt slaughter Pakistanis...Altaf hussain cant even come back to Pakistan because he murdered so many in karachi...karachi a mafia state due to MQM....u call that a contribution...open ur eyes

[PakistaniWazir]

Malgariya, are the Jaish e Muhammad, Sipah e Sahaba, Lashkar e Toyba, Harkat ul Ansar, Harkat ul Mujahideen, Jamaat ud Daawa and al-Badr guys Afghans? Pakistan is the biggest factory of terrorists and it has exported them to all corners of the world.

did the afghan nation open its legs for pakistan to exploit? yes or not?

didnt afghanis run to pakistan for help and begged for money and islamic madarassahs?

did pakistan force them to open up madrassahs?

did pakistan force them to do jihad and blow their stateless country into pieces?

majority of afghans choose this because they wanted this!

pakistan did not ask afghanis by force to hey fight they wanted this

[PakistaniWazir]

Malgariya, of course the Indian Maajar is patriotic to Pakistan. His whole life and existence depends upon this unnatural and illegitimate state.

what about the unnatural and illegitimate state of afghanistan

please compare pakistans acheivements in last 60 years with afghanistans?

afghanistan does not even have a GDP to feed its people plus afghanistan is not even wholey pashtun, so what is this unity with afghanistan which is not pashtun state but unnatural state of others

[Nadir Shah]

mahmood achakzai is a proud pakistani his own family has married into balochis i know this very well

if they are so called kandaharis then why they serve pakistan and have pakistani id cards?

Malgariya, Mashar Mahmood Khan Achakzai had clearly and unequivocally stated himself to be an 'Afghan'.
"Da Badakhshaan Na Ye Raawakhle Tar Herata, Bya Da herat Na Ye Raawaakhla Tar Nimroza, Bya Berta Che Raaze Tar Kunarhunu Pore, Aw halta Da Swat Da Sar Da Yousafzai Na Neewale, Byaa Za Za Tar Da Siwai Tar Medanuno Pore, Nan Lar Aw Bar Afghan Taareekh Ke Deyr Wakht Baad Yaw Zaye De".
Mashar Mahmood Khan in Kabul Jirga.

[Saifullah]

Marwat are one of the most proud pakistanis go to lakki marwat and say your an afghanay they will disown you

if you love afghanistan so much then plz go to afghanistan and live there, give your pakistani rupees and electricity to somebody who is deserve it more than a confused person such as you

I have told my villagers many times....when i went there....they are really interested in the marwat history....that they originated from Ghazni....this is our marwat history....we have the same tribes in marwat areas also in Afghanistan...like suleman khel and so on...so we are the same people and they also accept it...hatred towards other tribes is a common pashtun thing, marwats hate bannu people and joke about them all the time....so they will not disown me so dream on

marwats have more in common wid many afghan tribes...compared to those from peshawar/swat/mardan/waziristan etc...

[PakistaniWazir]

lol, if they are not nuisance, then why are they bombed 24/7? Doesn't the pakistan gov/ISI accuse them of harbouring terrorists? Aren't tribal people in pakistan looked upon as secies from wild wild west?

Tribal people are ghairatmand pashtuns who don't accept the ghulami of pakistan or their masters. In return they get called jahil and wahshi for their independent nature.



trust me Afghans are tired of war, there are uzbekistani, chechens and others in tribal areas and elements of Taliban and Al qaida. why does your beloved pakistan play a double game by supporting taliban in Afghanistan and giving safe havens to their lealders in Quetta and karachi and bomb the so called pakistani taliban?




NO I don't picture pakistan same as Afghanistan. I wish pakistan good luck and progress. Afghanistan has been through a 30 year war and there is still fighting going on.

Let's see where Afghanistan goes when we have 30 year uninterupted peace but we know pakistani government and ISI doesn't want a strong Afghanistan so they will export their jihad there. Let me show you a clip of your so called peace loving pakistanis caught in Afghanistan.



so who is destroying who's country?



a little exageration to say the least. Its safe to say you have never been to Afghanistan and only rely on the views of zaid hamid.



Are you sure? Before and during soviets Education was free in Afghanistan. Even universities were free and education is still free but there are a few private institutions springing up. I studied in pekhawar and I had to pay for everything. Whats so great about your education system?
the government school were so bad that no body who had any money will send their kids to one of those schhools.



Instead of feeling empathy for you fellow Afghans you mock them?

Good to know what kind of mentality you have. In recent conflicts in bajaur, many families crossed to Afghanistan's kunar province and they were given refuge. Many pashtuns have opened up karahi shops in kabul and work in construction in kabul because you get paid in dollars in kabul. The wages are much higher than pekhawar.

Your intention is quite clear, you want to divide pashtuns but it will not work. pashtuns are waking up and getting educated and will not be fooled by your propagand which doesn't carry any weight or backed by facts.

so why did tribals pashtuns idps choose to go to pakistani cities instead of going to afghanistan?

becoz the spoon that afghanis feed its empty and couldnt care less about other pashtuns

afghanis choose taliban, afghanis choose islamic jihad and as a result pakistani pashtuns r suffering

if afghanis never wanted isi or pakistan army in their affairs then why did afghanis beg pakistani to feed them, train them and shelter them??????