The durrand line is essentially an invisible line, but one that has been the cause of so much damage to people on both sides. I reject the durrand line and i think so should all pashtuns, because the people on both sides are one, for e.g. if someone were to get adopted it wouldn't change their biological parents, so why should the people on both sides be seen as any different. Lol and you said afghanistan was not properly governed lol, well the tribal areas, in fact all the pashtun belt is considered to most pakistani people as not being properly governed, if pakistan gave equal rights to pashtun then they would have let them rename their province ages ago (yes now they have) and they would have had pashto as an official language aswell.
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Originally posted by Saifullah View PostU keep worryin about Pashtuns joining the state called Afghanistan....Just do your own work and stop worrying about that....fix ur own wazir people to stop killin eachother...make your waziristan advanced, then talk about infrastructure....instead of migrating to developed parts of Pakistan...fix ur villages
Waziristan and tribal areas have always been known for robbery and crime, you speak like wazirs are all living in London and its so secure....lol
Many pashtuns were afraid to go there in the past and visit it...the locals told them you have to go with an escort its dangerous....and now you talk against Afghans....pure hypocricy....if i am a criminal myself how can i complain about other criminals
Mr Saifullah
When Wazirs were slaughtering British for freedom for Pashtuns the germans and italians were supplying us with many weapons and aid it was your Afghanistan on order of Soviet union to block these supplies.
So like I said before what has Afghanistan done for Pashtuns at the time when war is going on for pashtun freedom. your afghanistan run away as usual
Also Saifullah when the russians were in afghanistan it was the people of waziristan who sheltered the 1000s of majjars from afghanistan, we fed you and kept you safe under our tribal customs.
when america invaded your nameless country it was the people of waziristan who sheltered you again but inreturn you brutalised,slaughtered and killed so many tribal maliks under the name of being friend of america and pakistan.
what do you mean by fix our villages?
in pakistan there are many wazirs in great positions of government show me in afghanistan where there is a single pashtun so great that he has to speak in dari to be respected????
you hate all pakistani pashtuns even though we allow you onto our land. you are right when soviets left what did you do to your fellow afghanis???????? and now you want to drag pakistan into your way of mind
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Pakistan dont give a damn about their people...Pakistan is just based upon dog eat dog....everybody is out there to get wat they can....so this concept of a country dont exist....whoever prospers in Pakistan it is either due to their own individual hard work or corruption/sifarish/criminality.....
Pakistan sees tribal areas as a nuisance...but they have used the british idea of having malikaan and khans to leave the people their illiterate and backward...they would want tribal areas to be abolished so they can control it rather than it being un-governed....naming the province doesnt mean anything, its like a drop in the ocean compared to other issues. now they have changed the name, now wat?? Gold is gonna drop from the sky....
Even a lunatic knows that pashtuns whichever side of the line they are on, is a pashtun....they are the same people....
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I am marwat....so dont start ur typical nonsense of we allowed u onto this land...shut the hell up with this crap, u are sounding like a robot continuosly we allowed u, we did this...who are u to allow anyone??Originally posted by PakistaniWazir View PostMr Saifullah
When Wazirs were slaughtering British for freedom for Pashtuns the germans and italians were supplying us with many weapons and aid it was your Afghanistan on order of Soviet union to block these supplies.
So like I said before what has Afghanistan done for Pashtuns at the time when war is going on for pashtun freedom. your afghanistan run away as usual
Also Saifullah when the russians were in afghanistan it was the people of waziristan who sheltered the 1000s of majjars from afghanistan, we fed you and kept you safe under our tribal customs.
when america invaded your nameless country it was the people of waziristan who sheltered you again but inreturn you brutalised,slaughtered and killed so many tribal maliks under the name of being friend of america and pakistan.
what do you mean by fix our villages?
in pakistan there are many wazirs in great positions of government show me in afghanistan where there is a single pashtun so great that he has to speak in dari to be respected????
you hate all pakistani pashtuns even though we allow you onto our land. you are right when soviets left what did you do to your fellow afghanis???????? and now you want to drag pakistan into your way of mind
Now i will reply to ur whole post later...i just had to reply to that part of ur post where u think u gave me permission to live on Allahs land...lol...i am marwat so better luck next timeLast edited by Saifullah; 07-22-2010, 12:14 PM.
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Malgariya, why did your Pakistan stop us Pashtuns of Dir, Bajaur and Swat from entering into the real 'Pakistan' at Kashmore? Did they not hold Pakistani citizenship?Originally posted by Son of Mountains View PostI never did support to Durrand line but now i want it must be permanentally closed.
I do not like them who cross durand and enter in Pakistan, earn money from here by Jobs or business; and on internet they promote negativity and hatred fror Pakistan. They are stray dogs before me either they live in Pashtunkhwa or in Karachi
You advocate respect for the Hindi language. How is Pashto treated in Pakistan?
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Originally posted by Saifullah View PostPakistan dont give a damn about their people...Pakistan is just based upon dog eat dog....everybody is out there to get wat they can....so this concept of a country dont exist....whoever prospers in Pakistan it is either due to their own individual hard work or corruption/sifarish/criminality.....
Pakistan sees tribal areas as a nuisance...but they have used the british idea of having malikaan and khans to leave the people their illiterate and backward...they would want tribal areas to be abolished so they can control it rather than it being un-governed....naming the province doesnt mean anything, its like a drop in the ocean compared to other issues. now they have changed the name, now wat?? Gold is gonna drop from the sky....
Even a lunatic knows that pashtuns whichever side of the line they are on, is a pashtun....they are the same people....
Pakistan does not see tribal areas as a nusience
it is the afghani immigrants who fled there when america invaded as the real nuisence
its funny how these afghanis love to speak and picture pakistans state the same as their country hahaha
in pakistan you can walk on the street with your wife without her being raped by a member of a rival warlord
in pakistan you can get basic education while in afghanistan they have not heard of what is A and B and C.
there is no pakistani in afghanistan begging on the streets of kabul there not a single but in pakistan there is many
so please re think your views with reality
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Originally posted by shlombayPakistanWazir
we have the best history section in te internet.
go to the history section and read the hundreds of articles to find out what Afghanistan has done for Pashtuns.
Like the famous Feroz Afridi says,
''Afghanistan da tolo Pashtano mor oh plaar''
In Pakistan you are a Pathan not even a Pashtun.
you think all pashtuns evolve around kandahar?????????
its funny how you guys use pashtun poets from pakistan ignoring the fact that these poets buy their food and daily supplies with pakistani rupees and hardly none of them even prefer to live in afghanistan
afghanistan has done nothing at for pashtuns besides use them for a while and then speak in dari to show how educated they are
as i said before pakistan shud make strong border and prevent influx of afghanis to save the nation
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Our leaders whether from Afghanistan or in Pakistan are a joke....so please thats not even a discussion....Talk about the people and talk facts...Originally posted by PakistaniWazir View PostMr Saifullah
When Wazirs were slaughtering British for freedom for Pashtuns the germans and italians were supplying us with many weapons and aid it was your Afghanistan on order of Soviet union to block these supplies.
So like I said before what has Afghanistan done for Pashtuns at the time when war is going on for pashtun freedom. your afghanistan run away as usual
Also Saifullah when the russians were in afghanistan it was the people of waziristan who sheltered the 1000s of majjars from afghanistan, we fed you and kept you safe under our tribal customs.
when america invaded your nameless country it was the people of waziristan who sheltered you again but inreturn you brutalised,slaughtered and killed so many tribal maliks under the name of being friend of america and pakistan.
what do you mean by fix our villages?
in pakistan there are many wazirs in great positions of government show me in afghanistan where there is a single pashtun so great that he has to speak in dari to be respected????
you hate all pakistani pashtuns even though we allow you onto our land. you are right when soviets left what did you do to your fellow afghanis???????? and now you want to drag pakistan into your way of mind
Afghans went against their leaders many times....
When you do good with someone...u dont ask them to repay you, thats if you did it for sake of Allah....u do good with someone bas khatam....but people like you will list every single thing u did to some one.
Pakistan has brutalised your people and not Afghans....Pakistan has kept your people backward not Afghans. Your people fight one another for a hobby...the history is full of fights between wazirs and mahsuds....bannuchian and wazir etc....this is your jahiliyat not forced by Afghans or others... read my topic about BLAMING others, you are just those type of people...blame afghans for ur stupidities...
I hate some Pakistani pashtuns because they are delusional...
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Save the nation?? Come on wake up...Originally posted by PakistaniWazir View Postyou think all pashtuns evolve around kandahar?????????
its funny how you guys use pashtun poets from pakistan ignoring the fact that these poets buy their food and daily supplies with pakistani rupees and hardly none of them even prefer to live in afghanistan
afghanistan has done nothing at for pashtuns besides use them for a while and then speak in dari to show how educated they are
as i said before pakistan shud make strong border and prevent influx of afghanis to save the nation
Look at the news, no electricity...i guess afghans drink Pakistan electricity....
No wheat, no sugar....everybody doing fraud with eachother....fake degrees most of the ministers have, you have a thug as the leader, you have military coups, you have them disgracing the person who made their nuclear bomb...how low can Pakistan go??? In all the points i made an Afghan has nothing to do with...this is YOUR PAKISTAN, the one you wanna save.....if u seal Pakistan from Afghans and kick them all out...it will still be a rotten country...coz stupid people like you are blind to see Pakistanis are doing everything bad and ruining their own country
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Malgariya, you are totally wrong. Who killed the tribal Malaks? It was the Taliban who killed them under the eye of ISI and Pak Army.Originally posted by PakistaniWazir View PostMr Saifullah
When Wazirs were slaughtering British for freedom for Pashtuns the germans and italians were supplying us with many weapons and aid it was your Afghanistan on order of Soviet union to block these supplies.
So like I said before what has Afghanistan done for Pashtuns at the time when war is going on for pashtun freedom. your afghanistan run away as usual
Also Saifullah when the russians were in afghanistan it was the people of waziristan who sheltered the 1000s of majjars from afghanistan, we fed you and kept you safe under our tribal customs.
when america invaded your nameless country it was the people of waziristan who sheltered you again but inreturn you brutalised,slaughtered and killed so many tribal maliks under the name of being friend of america and pakistan.
what do you mean by fix our villages?
in pakistan there are many wazirs in great positions of government show me in afghanistan where there is a single pashtun so great that he has to speak in dari to be respected????
you hate all pakistani pashtuns even though we allow you onto our land. you are right when soviets left what did you do to your fellow afghanis???????? and now you want to drag pakistan into your way of mind
Secondly, Afghanistan, despite going through terrible times, has never relinquished its claim on Pakhtunkhwa. I think this is a very big achievment of the Afghan State.
Thirdly, the people of Afghanistan are not 'Mahajirs' in Pakhtunkhwa. They are 'kadwaal'. You hate the 'Mahajar' from Afghanistan but love and are happy to be the slave of the 'Mahajar' from Uttar Pradesh and Bihar.
Fourthly, name Wazirs who have served the Pashtuns while at the helm of affairs in Pakistan?
Fifthly, Waziristan is not a part of Pakistan. The agreement between the British India and Tribesmen expired on the 14th of August, 1947. Central Pakhtunkhwa (FATA) is a semi-autonomous, disputed territory.
Lastly, change your name. What is a 'PakistaniWazir'? It is as real as a 'NaziJew' or a 'AfricanEuropean'.
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Typical rubbish...u never replied with my points except by comparing the poorest country in the world to Pakistan....I told u i am marwat so u cant use that robotic talk on meOriginally posted by PakistaniWazir View PostPakistan does not see tribal areas as a nusience
it is the afghani immigrants who fled there when america invaded as the real nuisence
its funny how these afghanis love to speak and picture pakistans state the same as their country hahaha
in pakistan you can walk on the street with your wife without her being raped by a member of a rival warlord
in pakistan you can get basic education while in afghanistan they have not heard of what is A and B and C.
there is no pakistani in afghanistan begging on the streets of kabul there not a single but in pakistan there is many
so please re think your views with reality
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Originally posted by Saifullah View PostOur leaders whether from Afghanistan or in Pakistan are a joke....so please thats not even a discussion....Talk about the people and talk facts...
Afghans went against their leaders many times....
When you do good with someone...u dont ask them to repay you, thats if you did it for sake of Allah....u do good with someone bas khatam....but people like you will list every single thing u did to some one.
Pakistan has brutalised your people and not Afghans....Pakistan has kept your people backward not Afghans. Your people fight one another for a hobby...the history is full of fights between wazirs and mahsuds....bannuchian and wazir etc....this is your jahiliyat not forced by Afghans or others... read my topic about BLAMING others, you are just those type of people...blame afghans for ur stupidities...
I hate some Pakistani pashtuns because they are delusional...
every terrorist in pakistan always seems to be an afghani
doesnt this tell you something or are you yourself delusioned?
why do you bring inner tribal fighting into this eh you afghanis cant even dare to see a ghilzai in government when your durrani king was doing kwaneetub with his dari speaking friends in govt
why are you so keen in taking away pakistani land eh
show me a single protest or political group in pakistan who wants to join afghanistan
it is like going back into time
no matter how back or backward pakhtunkhwa or tribal region is atleast we have educated people with good businesses and qualifications and respect in the world
waziristan is just a small part of pakistan i feel sad for those in peshawer who have suffered under the constant criminality of afghanis who smuggle drugs, sell women and other ill things of society
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Badigulla khpal marwatano na tapoos waka, aa kho zaan ta afghan na wayi, walay?Originally posted by Saifullah View PostPakistan dont give a damn about their people...Pakistan is just based upon dog eat dog....everybody is out there to get wat they can....so this concept of a country dont exist....whoever prospers in Pakistan it is either due to their own individual hard work or corruption/sifarish/criminality.....
Pakistan sees tribal areas as a nuisance...but they have used the british idea of having malikaan and khans to leave the people their illiterate and backward...they would want tribal areas to be abolished so they can control it rather than it being un-governed....naming the province doesnt mean anything, its like a drop in the ocean compared to other issues. now they have changed the name, now wat?? Gold is gonna drop from the sky....
Even a lunatic knows that pashtuns whichever side of the line they are on, is a pashtun....they are the same people....
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Good point MQM are indian muhajir RULING pakistan....all the famous news stations and newspapers like JANG, GEO TV, ARY TV and rich people are all indian muhajirs...lol....Originally posted by Shah Jamshyd View PostMalgariya, you are totally wrong. Who killed the tribal Malaks? It was the Taliban who killed them under the eye of ISI and Pak Army.
Secondly, Afghanistan, despite going through terrible times, has never relinquished its claim on Pakhtunkhwa. I think this is a very big achievment of the Afghan State.
Thirdly, the people of Afghanistan are not 'Mahajirs' in Pakhtunkhwa. They are 'kadwaal'. You hate the 'Mahajar' from Afghanistan but love and are happy to be the slave of the 'Mahajar' from Uttar Pradesh and Bihar.
Fourthly, name Wazirs who have served the Pashtuns while at the helm of affairs in Pakistan?
Fifthly, Waziristan is not a part of Pakistan. The agreement between the British India and Tribesmen expired on the 14th of August, 1947. Central Pakhtunkhwa (FATA) is a semi-autonomous, disputed territory.
Lastly, change your name. What is a 'PakistaniWazir'? It is as real as a 'NaziJew' or a 'AfricanEuropean'.
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