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    Hezb-i-Islami of Afghanistan (HIA) killed a Taliban member in central province of Maidan Wardak on Tuesday, officials said.

    The killing of the militant, Qari Ahmad Shah, was linked to a dispute with the supporters of former premier, Gulbadin Hekmatyar, in the Tangi village of Nirkh district.

    Governor's spokesman, Shahidullah Shahid, confirmed the death, saying the dispute between the insurgent groups had intensified in the province.

    Qari Ahmad Shah, who belonged to the Hayat village, was an active Taliban member in Nirkh, said resident Karim.

    The Taliban disarmed two HIA members a day earlier, and the shooting might be an act of revenge, he added.

    Two weeks ago, clashes erupted between Taliban and HIA supporters in Sadmardi, Tokarak and Dadal areas, injuring three fighters.
    Four Taliban fighters and one militant from Hizb-i-Islami Afghanistan were killed and another seven insurgents wounded in a fight between the two groups in central Maidan Wardak province on Monday morning, an official said.

    The fight erupted in Tokrak, Dadil and Pirdado areas of Nirkh district at about 4:30am, the governor's spokesman, Shahidullah Shahid, told Pajhwok Afghan News.

    Initial reports showed that four Taliban insurgents and an HIA fighter had been killed and seven from both sides wounded, he said.

    A local resident, Asadullah, also confirmed the fighting, saying he saw two Taliban killed and another wounded. He had no information about HIA casualties.

    He said a number of Taliban fighters had come from Chak district of the province in order to disarm HIA fighters in the area.

    Both sides were using heavy and light weapons, he added.

    Some families were also forced to flee their houses, he said.

    A notorious Taliban commander, Mullah Qasim, was leading his fighters from Chak, Ahmadi, an HIA commander, said. Two Taliban fighters were killed and another two wounded he said, dismissing claims that his group had suffered any casualties.

    A Taliban spokesman, Zabihullah Mujahid, denied there was any fighting going on, saying the two parties had good relations.

    He said the clash was probably a personal feud between two illegal armed groups.

    Last week, a Taliban commander, Qari Ahmad Shah, was gunned down in the same area. HIA fighters were blamed for the assassination, but the group later rejected this.

    ADDITIONAL REPORTS: 17 fighters killed HIA-Taliban clashes since yesterday.
    Last edited by Guest; 07-20-2010, 07:57 PM.

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    most of the Hizb Islami fighters are dodgly people.
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    • #3
      Originally posted by Sangar View Post
      most of the Hizb Islami fighters are dodgly people.
      Oh Taleban ham da Asman na na de ra koz shawee.

      We cannot blame sides in this matter, and if we do Taliban are the one to blame in this case.
      This is not their first time clashing and disarming HIA. According to the Taliban they don't want HIA movement because everyone is suppose to be fighting under one flag, one religion, one leader etc. They need to implement this within themselves first. Because, at the moment every district is divided into multiple platoons of Taliban foot soldiers. They all operate independently, the only thing that brings them together is the fact that there are people out there that refer to them as "Taliban".
      Da da media media khabare ham nadee, da me da stargo ledalai hal. Chey Pa talebano ke ham tarbrona laram aw pa hezbi e Islami ke ham.
      Aw da dwaro palawai na yam, kho da marg tarafdara ye ham na yam. Za agha qanon na manam chey wai Afghan de pake khawrey shee, Ka da Bush wee, ka da Karzee wee aw ka da Mullah Omar wee.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Zarawar View Post
        Oh Taleban ham da Asman na na de ra koz shawee.

        We cannot blame sides in this matter, and if we do Taliban are the one to blame in this case.
        This is not their first time clashing and disarming HIA. According to the Taliban they don't want HIA movement because everyone is suppose to be fighting under one flag, one religion, one leader etc. They need to implement this within themselves first. Because, at the moment every district is divided into multiple platoons of Taliban foot soldiers. They all operate independently, the only thing that brings them together is the fact that there are people out there that refer to them as "Taliban".
        Da da media media khabare ham nadee, da me da stargo ledalai hal. Chey Pa talebano ke ham tarbrona laram aw pa hezbi e Islami ke ham.
        Aw da dwaro palawai na yam, kho da marg tarafdara ye ham na yam. Za agha qanon na manam chey wai Afghan de pake khawrey shee, Ka da Bush wee, ka da Karzee wee aw ka da Mullah Omar wee.
        derr sada sarray ye,

        Taliban are fighting a guerrilla war. Obvjously, they operate in small unites of 3, 5, 7 and 9. Because it is efficient and effective.

        Their independence and self sufficiency is their greatest asset. This is a great strategy our ancestors applied while defeating the British and the Russians.

        But they all fight under the banner of tawheed and under the leadership of Mullah Omar.


        Hizb Islami is a group well known to Afghans. They have fought every group in Afghanistan and they have allied themselves with any group.

        Hekmatyar is the most power hungry person on earth. He will never rest untill he is the absolute king.

        He cannot be compared to Mullah Omar. Mullah Omar was elected by the Shura of Ulema of Afghanistan as the Amir. Even today, people from around the world give bay'ah to him.

        Yet, powerhungry Ikhwani Hekmatyar wants to play a solo game. In fact, Hizb Islami has voluntarily approached the Karzai government with a proposition. Hekmatyar is willint to accept the current coalition of Northern Alliance.

        If it suites his personal interests, he is willing to do anything.

        But in all fairness, Taliban have their own flaws and shortcomings. They have many mistakes and blundered frequently in the past. I am not saying they are perfect. But comparing Taliban with Karzai and other puppets of the crusaders and Hekmatyars Hizb Islami, I would say that Taliban are much much better.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by Sangar View Post
          derr sada sarray ye,

          Taliban are fighting a guerrilla war. Obvjously, they operate in small unites of 3, 5, 7 and 9. Because it is efficient and effective.

          Their independence and self sufficiency is their greatest asset. This is a great strategy our ancestors applied while defeating the British and the Russians.

          But they all fight under the banner of tawheed and under the leadership of Mullah Omar.


          Hizb Islami is a group well known to Afghans. They have fought every group in Afghanistan and they have allied themselves with any group.

          Hekmatyar is the most power hungry person on earth. He will never rest untill he is the absolute king.

          He cannot be compared to Mullah Omar. Mullah Omar was elected by the Shura of Ulema of Afghanistan as the Amir. Even today, people from around the world give bay'ah to him.

          Yet, powerhungry Ikhwani Hekmatyar wants to play a solo game. In fact, Hizb Islami has voluntarily approached the Karzai government with a proposition. Hekmatyar is willint to accept the current coalition of Northern Alliance.

          If it suites his personal interests, he is willing to do anything.

          But in all fairness, Taliban have their own flaws and shortcomings. They have many mistakes and blundered frequently in the past. I am not saying they are perfect. But comparing Taliban with Karzai and other puppets of the crusaders and Hekmatyars Hizb Islami, I would say that Taliban are much much better.

          Awal kho de da kholey sara lag pam kawa, Sada ba pa khpala wey.
          Dwaham da chey
          I was talking about platoon size groups, i.e. 50-120. In Afghanistan they refer to them as "Dalgai" as in "dala" Group.
          Like our district, we had around 5 dalgai, so there were 5 different groups of Taliban operating. Their headquarters were in Miram Shah (waziristan), Quetta and Peshawar. They were mostly working interdependently and competed against each other.
          Aw sha bahana ye jora wa, chey yow sarai ba da kalee na wrak show, no ywey dalgai ba baley ta gota neewala, ywa ba well chey ma nadai newalai, agha baley sara dai. Agha baley ba bya wee chey wallah da tol da jasosano aw munafiqeeno dalgai dai. etc
          Aw dwahama awal kho da sefatona chey da talebano wakral, da de berta dar wakhla. Ma warsara der wakht ter karai, mashom warsara star shwam. Khpal tarbor mo wali da walayat wo aw dase nor.
          Aw bala khabar da chey, Hezb E Islami kho da Shorai nezar sara pa Ghazni aw pa Kabul ke jang woo chey Taleban da sha da khwa pe rawarasedal aw mat ye kral.
          Pa agha sorat ke doi khpal itelaf da talebano da doshmanano sara wako. Da kho sa da CNN aw BBC khabare nadee.
          Halta pa Ghazni aw Kabul ke Hezb pa sakht jang akhta wo da Shorai nazar aw Hazaragano sara, chey sahar 9 bajey warta rawarasedal aw shoro ye pe wakra.
          Pashtu matal dai wai "sa chey rebey aga ba karey"

          Ishtebahat dwaro wakral, kho da wos ye Taleb kawee. Da wos kho Hezbai taleb na pregdee.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Wardakprince
            I thought they were truly unified and working togethet to kick out Infidels.

            I dismiss these reports as tribal feuds.
            No, it's not. There is a war going on between the two parties. What are you talking about lol

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Zarawar View Post
              Awal kho de da kholey sara lag pam kawa, Sada ba pa khpala wey.
              Dwaham da chey
              I was talking about platoon size groups, i.e. 50-120. In Afghanistan they refer to them as "Dalgai" as in "dala" Group.
              Like our district, we had around 5 dalgai, so there were 5 different groups of Taliban operating. Their headquarters were in Miram Shah (waziristan), Quetta and Peshawar. They were mostly working interdependently and competed against each other.
              Aw sha bahana ye jora wa, chey yow sarai ba da kalee na wrak show, no ywey dalgai ba baley ta gota neewala, ywa ba well chey ma nadai newalai, agha baley sara dai. Agha baley ba bya wee chey wallah da tol da jasosano aw munafiqeeno dalgai dai. etc
              Aw dwahama awal kho da sefatona chey da talebano wakral, da de berta dar wakhla. Ma warsara der wakht ter karai, mashom warsara star shwam. Khpal tarbor mo wali da walayat wo aw dase nor.
              Aw bala khabar da chey, Hezb E Islami kho da Shorai nezar sara pa Ghazni aw pa Kabul ke jang woo chey Taleban da sha da khwa pe rawarasedal aw mat ye kral.
              Pa agha sorat ke doi khpal itelaf da talebano da doshmanano sara wako. Da kho sa da CNN aw BBC khabare nadee.
              Halta pa Ghazni aw Kabul ke Hezb pa sakht jang akhta wo da Shorai nazar aw Hazaragano sara, chey sahar 9 bajey warta rawarasedal aw shoro ye pe wakra.
              Pashtu matal dai wai "sa chey rebey aga ba karey"

              Ishtebahat dwaro wakral, kho da wos ye Taleb kawee. Da wos kho Hezbai taleb na pregdee.
              Hizb Islami kho bya pasta ham hagha Shoraye Nizaar aw Hazaragona sara yaw zai sho aw de talibano pa khilaf woderodo

              Wale? Ka de Hizb aw de shoraye nizar jang wo, no bya paasta pa kuma khushalay bande bya yaw bel sara malgartya wokr?
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                za da disunity tarafdara na yam. Na agha Taleb manam che Hezbai na manee aw na agha Hezbai manam chey da talebano sara pa ywa lyar nashe tlai.
                Wallah ka da yow tanzeem dase pak shafaf aw Asmani controlegee.
                Dwara ishtebahat lareee, kho da jang aw jagra aw wazhal tanha da angrez kar dai. Angrez pa de der khoshala keye.
                Aw da mog Pashtano kho yow adat dai chey zar "BAAT" keyo.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Sangar View Post
                  Hizb Islami kho bya pasta ham hagha Shoraye Nizaar aw Hazaragona sara yaw zai sho aw de talibano pa khilaf woderodo

                  Wale? Ka de Hizb aw de shoraye nizar jang wo, no bya paasta pa kuma khushalay bande bya yaw bel sara malgartya wokr?
                  Bas ka ye reshtya neeyatona ghalat woo, khodai ba ye washarmaweee..
                  Za zama pa and bayad be itefaqi kama shee.


                  Zama tol moshkel da dai, chey jang ka nan kege materialism pake der dai.


                  Dwara tarafa bayad da Hekmatyar aw Mullah Omar da para wa na jangigi

                  Balkey da ywey kwandey, da ywey borey adey da para de wajangegee.

                  Ka Afghainstan "graveyard of empires " wo no da Hezb aw Talibano na awal wo.

                  Da Afghanistan moqawmat aw mobarez olas pa Hezb aw Talebano porey his ara na laree.

                  Ka Hezb aw Taleb wee aw ka nawee, dalta Doshman matigi.

                  Da khodai raza bayad pake dera wee, Afghanistan der zawredalai.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Zarawar View Post
                    za da disunity tarafdara na yam. Na agha Taleb manam che Hezbai na manee aw na agha Hezbai manam chey da talebano sara pa ywa lyar nashe tlai.
                    Wallah ka da yow tanzeem dase pak shafaf aw Asmani controlegee.
                    Dwara ishtebahat lareee, kho da jang aw jagra aw wazhal tanha da angrez kar dai. Angrez pa de der khoshala keye.
                    Aw da mog Pashtano kho yow adat dai chey zar "BAAT" keyo.
                    haleka ma kala dase wele de chi de doy manz ke che kuma jagra shewai kha kar da?

                    de Tahsinullah Tahsin yaw khkule shehr dai:

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Sangar View Post
                      haleka ma kala dase wele de chi de doy manz ke che kuma jagra shewai kha kar da?

                      de Tahsinullah Tahsin yaw khkule shehr dai:

                      Da me awredaley da, Manana da sharekawalo.


                      Tahsinullah Tahsin ham pa nationalism key lag lag gotey waheey

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Zarawar View Post
                        Tahsinullah Tahsin ham pa nationalism key lag lag gotey waheey
                        de tajikano pase khabare kawi, ka na??
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Sangar View Post
                          de tajikano pase khabare kawi, ka na??
                          Bale

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Wardakprince
                            I thought they were truly unified and working togethet to kick out Infidels.

                            I dismiss these reports as tribal feuds.




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