Man-Made Laws vs. Shari'ah

[DSM0305]

If you look at this thread then tajiks openly admitted that they are kaffir. If you especially look on vinyard, then it shows that tajik nationalism equals kaffirs. And people go around and wonder why there is war in Afghanistan... Tajik nationalism is on rise and disbelievers are on the rise, coincidence.. I don't think so. This is also the reason majority of Tajiks dislike the idea of peace with Talibans.

[Shamlawar Khurasani]

If you look at this thread then tajiks openly admitted that they are kaffir. If you especially look on vinyard, then it shows that tajik nationalism equals kaffirs. And people go around and wonder why there is war in Afghanistan... Tajik nationalism is on rise and disbelievers are on the rise, coincidence.. I don't think so. This is also the reason majority of Tajiks dislike the idea of peace with Talibans.

It seems your perception is selective.

Look at all the Pashtuns in this thread being critical of shariah and claiming it is man made. All of them are kaafirs too.

At least tajikak is honest about his beliefs. Unlike the munafiqeen who claim to be muslims and yet mock/ridicule or cast doubts about shariah.

Dont be fascist. Apply takfeer without prejudice.

[Shamlawar Khurasani]

Do you even know whats sharia?
sharia include both man made and quranic laws. who was prophet mohammad, wsnt he a man? there are still situations that couldn't be resolved by quran and hadis then the scholars makes the decision.

Prophet Muhammad sal allahu alayhi wasalam was a a prophet. His teachings are part of the revelation. He did not invent stuff.

Believing otherwise is kufr akbar.

[KGODB]

I like when blind, deaf and dumb people think Islam and sharia are "fairy tales". The Qu'ran talks about you losers; you guys put the coal, the propane, for the fires of hell to burn.

You people act like how the Israeli's did when Musa took a long time meeting god on Mt. Sinai.

you people act like how the people of Thamud did when they asked Saleh for proof of god. he brought them that she-camel yet they killed it.

also, the people who mocked at Noah for building a boat.

etc,

so do us all a favor and continue disbelieving in "fairy tales"

condemn people who dont believe in fairy tales, by citing fairy tales

[DSM0305]

It seems your perception is selective.

Look at all the Pashtuns in this thread being critical of shariah and claiming it is man made. All of them are kaafirs too.

At least tajikak is honest about his beliefs. Unlike the munafiqeen who claim to be muslims and yet mock/ridicule or cast doubts about shariah.

Dont be fascist. Apply takfeer without prejudice.

This may be true for this forum, but we must accept the realities in Afghanistan. I mentioned the tajik to highlight the situation in Afghanistan.

If we look at the situation in Afghanistan, then fascism amongst tajiks in on rise. While fascism amongst Pashtun have been dead for many decades. It is also the reason why the war in Afghanistan continues. If you look at Tajiks, then they often call Pashtuns, Taliban.

Every situation in Afghanistan is turned into ''Pashtuns against us'', by the openly fascist in tajik communities. I am not saying all Tajiks are fascist, I simply pointing out that fascism is rising in their communities. It is also the reason why anything related to Islam is condemned by them and called ''arab culture/slaves''.

[vinyard80]

If you look at this thread then tajiks openly admitted that they are kaffir. If you especially look on vinyard, then it shows that tajik nationalism equals kaffirs. And people go around and wonder why there is war in Afghanistan... Tajik nationalism is on rise and disbelievers are on the rise, coincidence.. I don't think so. This is also the reason majority of Tajiks dislike the idea of peace with Talibans.

Hilarious how you attack all tajiks first opportunity you get. Well I am just sharing my OWN opinions. Bet most of tajiks would disagree with me because after all most of them are as religious as pashtuns are.. may be just a bit more secular/liberal after all their culture is thousand of years older than arabic barbarism so thats why tend to be more protective of their own culture and less arab wannabes like some of you guys.

Anyway I am kaffir. And I am proud of it. And you people, pashtun and tajik nationalist, you are as kaffir as I am. You hate each other and according Quran and hadiths musleems are not permitted to do so. You are also kaffirs but more hypocrites.

On tajiks well most of them dislike talibans because after all they are a bunch of murder *******s paki losers and they have a bitter memories of what happened in west, central and north afghanistan. Talibans are a pashtun nationalist movement sugarcoated with islamism. Actually most of pashtuns also hate them. Instead blaming on tajiks of all your miseries feel free to join your talib brothers. I heard they have created a paradise of justice and equality in some places of afg-pak tribal border but you won't because you are a MUNAFIQ barking behind your screen and enjoying a comfortable life in west. LOL

[Shamlawar Khurasani]

This may be true for this forum, but we must accept the realities in Afghanistan. I mentioned the tajik to highlight the situation in Afghanistan.

If we look at the situation in Afghanistan, then fascism amongst tajiks in on rise. While fascism amongst Pashtun have been dead for many decades. It is also the reason why the war in Afghanistan continues. If you look at Tajiks, then they often call Pashtuns, Taliban.

Every situation in Afghanistan is turned into ''Pashtuns against us'', by the openly fascist in tajik communities. I am not saying all Tajiks are fascist, I simply pointing out that fascism is rising in their communities. It is also the reason why anything related to Islam is condemned by them and called ''arab culture/slaves''.

All nationalist movements are driven by anti-Islamic elements.

Tajik nationalism is in essence a rebellion against Islam.

[vinyard80]

Yes thats why Shariah is mand made and is filthy, it is produced by degenerate people the Tajiks, even after hunderds of years your filth is still around and has poisend a lot of peoples mind.

Its pretty well known who tajiks are and its also very well known their contributions to humanity. Pashtun history can not be compared with tajik one. Please just look at bukhara, samarqand, kabul, balkh, herat, nishabur or tus and compare them with peshwar.. hilarious lol

Now guys start once again! Call me tajik! Just because I point out facts you can not silence me people. Wish tajikam was not dead. I would like also to teach them some lessons xD

[vinyard80]

All nationalist movements are driven by anti-Islamic elements.

Tajik nationalism is in essence a rebellion against Islam.

Finally we do agree. Nationalism is anti-islamic. If you are a muslim then your country should be islamic ummah, not a province of it.

Thanks my dear arabic wannabe.

[Khostai]

Its pretty well known who tajiks are and its also very well known their contributions to humanity. Pashtun history can not be compared with tajik one. Please just look at bukhara, samarqand, kabul, balkh, herat, nishabur or tus and compare them with peshwar.. hilarious lol

Now guys start once again! Call me tajik! Just because I point out facts you can not silence me people. Wish tajikam was not dead. I would like also to teach them some lessons xD

Yes Bukhara is a dead city, Samarqand was famous for it slave trade and cruelty
Kabul was inhabited by a lot of ethnic groups and Tajiks didn't build that city.
Balkh is quite boring, it only had that big mosque and that's it....
You people speak foreign language and also have persian culture, lol.
And somehow Tajiks are so good and civilized, a lost group with no own language or culture wuhahaha.
By the way a lot of the ancient writers and philosophers were persians, I doubt if they ever called themself Tajiks when they were alive :P

[vinyard80]

Yes Bukhara is a dead city, Samarqand was famous for it slave trade and cruelty
Kabul was inhabited by a lot of ethnic groups and Tajiks didn't build that city.
Balkh is quite boring, it only had that big mosque and that's it....
You people speak foreign language and also have persian culture, lol.
And somehow Tajiks are so good and civilized, a lost group with no own language or culture wuhahaha.
By the way a lot of the ancient writers and philosophers were persians, I doubt if they ever called themself Tajiks when they were alive :P

You are an ignorant and proud of it LOL

Well tajik is a turkic word for those persianspeaker inhabitants of khorasan. Tajiks are just a confederation of aryan tribes who speak farsi. Anyway your claims make no sense after all were iranians from eastern provinces of iran who saved persian language and persian culture actually tajiks made that culture great. Rudaki, mavlana, jami, attar, khayyam, khoshrow, beydel, saadi, hafez, ibn sina, behzad, khwarezmi, biruni, juzjani, faryabi,.. as a persianspeaker pashtun I must say that I am damn proud of my language. I thanks my grand father who moved into a persianspeaker city. Thanks to him I now belong to one of the greatest civilization in the world.

[Loy Afghanistan]

You are an ignorant and proud of it LOL

Well tajik is a turkic word for those persianspeaker inhabitants of khorasan. Tajiks are just a confederation of aryan tribes who speak farsi. Anyway your claims make no sense after all were iranians from eastern provinces of iran who saved persian language and persian culture actually tajiks made that culture great. Rudaki, mavlana, jami, attar, khayyam, khoshrow, beydel, saadi, hafez, ibn sina, behzad, khwarezmi, biruni, juzjani, faryabi,.. as a persianspeaker pashtun I must say that I am damn proud of my language. I thanks my grand father who moved into a persianspeaker city. Thanks to him I now belong to one of the greatest civilization in the world.

You are so funny guy. Many of your ancestors got raped by, Hellenic people and later by Arabs and moved here to Pashtun soil, don't act like you have done something great, because you have not. Be happy my ancestors let you live in peace and respected your language/culture without forcing anything in your mouth. This is what I hate with ungrateful sub humans. Like many minorities, they talk to much. Pashtuns are majority we let you live in peace, we don't want anything from you, just show respect to society, and your thanks is talking **** against us? If you are so happy with you persians iran, move to Iran. You think you have conquered Pashtunistan?

Arabs took whole Iraq. 90% are arabs and 70 % of Iranian looks like arabs. "persian" core army has always being build up by Pashtun warriors. When we got tired of you and didn't fought by your side, you got raped hard 2 times. Even many great mind came from Pashtun soil in your "history". I have nothing against our Iranian cousins, if they don't act, like they are those royalist like Koroush-e-Bozorg or Dariush-e-Bozorg. Because those families lines, moved away from Iran and settled in Pashtunistan from Arabs. Many has married to Pashtuns.

[afghan]

Prophet Muhammad sal allahu alayhi wasalam was a a prophet. His teachings are part of the revelation. He did not invent stuff.

Believing otherwise is kufr akbar.

prophets also made mistakes and also spoke to people as well for their opinion.

[RevolutionThroughReason]

Because its just a book. An old book. Out of his arabic context your book makes no sense. With his inhuman punishments such as flogging, stoning, chopping off hands, beheading,..

Only humans can implement such punishments, no other species implements such things.

so the word "inhuman" is a misnomer.

[Shamlawar Khurasani]

prophets also made mistakes and also spoke to people as well for their opinion.

Their personal opinion is not part of shariah. They did not make any mistakes in conveying the message and therefore they did not err in shariah.

Learn the distinction.

Speech and action of prophet Muhammad sal allahu alayhi wasalam are divided into different categories. You have know those before making such statements.