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  • Originally posted by ډګروال View Post
    durand wajood nadard,,again parso the language of iranains.
    What do you think of parsi sign for pashtun unity.



    Support pashto language and greater pukhtoonkhwa.

    pa prady jaba khabarai pakhtun naka
    be laila bala soda kho majnon naka
    gero jabo kre lahoo pa khpal tahzeeb ki
    be pakhtu ba de bal hestsok rastoon naka
    hamza baba
    پَښتو کښې اُولېکئ
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    • Originally posted by gadoonwal View Post
      durand wajood nadard,,again parso the language of iranains.
      What do you think of parsi sign for pashtun unity.
      Lovely gesture

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      • Originally posted by Loy Afghanistan View Post
        You should SHUT YOUR PAKI MOUTH about half breeds, mr Pakistan on Pashtun/"Afghan" forum. Let the genetic studies decide that, pathetic worm. This is Pashtun forum, we all are Pashtun and nothing but Pashtun. If some people have difficultly with this POINT, then stop and don't ever comment about Pashtun identity.

        This should be a law on this forum, respect that, so we can destroy those baboons who pretend to be Pashtuns and destroys Pashtun unity, that we are one and one shall we be forever.
        you jahil still singing the old songs.For tow years i am singing this one pashtun unity songs on this forum and each time the half breed kabalyans come up with disunity and abusive words.
        I created more threads then anyone els for pashtun unity on this forum but in response it was rejected by persainized pashtuns and pakipied pashtuns.
        However kabalyans i find more abusive towards pashtuns of east.
        They hate pashtu.Even in greater afghanistan the hafl breed still wants farsi to be the national language with pashtu why?

        These gulaman better keep their farsiwanism to afghanistan and do,nt spread this desease to us.
        Will the people of afghanistan declare pashtu to be the one and only officail language and declare afghanistan is pashtunistan?
        i will be the first one to fly afghan flag on my house.

        Today,s afghanistan is changed no more pashtunism left there.
        Tajiks and hazaras takeover everything.
        We are pashtun and nothing more this what i saying from the start.
        Afghanis are ignorant of their own history,language and culture.
        This is not pashtunforum mr parsiwal.
        It is now dominated by parsiwans and half breed.
        This forum is now used by half breed to insult the pashtun of east .
        Go and check before you make comments.
        I tolerated their stupedity for tow years and never respond to them but enough is enough.
        They want us not to say anything against pariwan influence in awghanistan.

        I support only and only pashtunistan not jinah,s pakistan and not abdurahman ,s farsiwanistan.
        You think east and west will join and tajiks will let you do that.
        Uzbiks will be the first one to walk away followed by tajiks and hazaras.
        Also pashtu speakers are minority in afghanistan.
        During zahir khan,s era they make calim pashtuns are 70% but go and see how many awghanis speak pashtu there.



        Support pashto language and greater pukhtoonkhwa.

        pa prady jaba khabarai pakhtun naka
        be laila bala soda kho majnon naka
        gero jabo kre lahoo pa khpal tahzeeb ki
        be pakhtu ba de bal hestsok rastoon naka
        hamza baba
        پَښتو کښې اُولېکئ
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        • Originally posted by ډګروال View Post
          Lovely gesture
          Honestly,
          i hate this kind of farsiwanism.Why are afghanis so influenced by parsi.
          If pashtu to be the one and only officail language of afghanistan with no more farsi then there is no point a pashtun will oppose loy afghanistan.
          I see no signs of that.
          parsi speakers think their language and culture is more superior then pashtuns.
          That is why poor pashtuns have no chioce but to adopt their language and culture.
          It was our dream to unite all pashtuns from amu to abaseen and keep these migrants under pashtun influence but afghan-pashtuns will be the first one to oppose this.
          They are so mixed with tajiks .
          We must not fool ourselves.
          I always wish my best for the people of afghanistan tajiks or pashtuns dose,nt matter but unity with parsi club will lead us to another confusion.
          pashtunistan is different issue fully supported by afghan govt untill this day.
          You celebrate this day in jalal abad now before kabul.
          why dont you celebrate loy afghanistan day?
          can you?
          Be realistic man and do,nt fool others and yourself.
          Atta mamad noor is already planing for northren afghanistan to be seperate country with help of west and isi.



          Support pashto language and greater pukhtoonkhwa.

          pa prady jaba khabarai pakhtun naka
          be laila bala soda kho majnon naka
          gero jabo kre lahoo pa khpal tahzeeb ki
          be pakhtu ba de bal hestsok rastoon naka
          hamza baba
          پَښتو کښې اُولېکئ
          Pashto Keyboard Online (Afghan) LEXILOGOS >>

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          • Originally posted by gadoonwal View Post
            Honestly,
            i hate this kind of farsiwanism.Why are afghanis so influenced by parsi.
            If pashtu to be the one and only officail language of afghanistan with no more farsi then there is no point a pashtun will oppose loy afghanistan.
            I see no signs of that.
            parsi speakers think their language and culture is more superior then pashtuns.
            That is why poor pashtuns have no chioce but to adopt their language and culture.
            It was our dream to unite all pashtuns from amu to abaseen and keep these migrants under pashtun influence but afghan-pashtuns will be the first one to oppose this.
            They are so mixed with tajiks .
            We must not fool ourselves.
            I always wish my best for the people of afghanistan tajiks or pashtuns dose,nt matter but unity with parsi club will lead us to another confusion.
            pashtunistan is different issue fully supported by afghan govt untill this day.
            You celebrate this day in jalal abad now before kabul.
            why dont you celebrate loy afghanistan day?
            can you?
            Be realistic man and do,nt fool others and yourself.
            Atta mamad noor is already planing for northren afghanistan to be seperate country with help of west and isi.
            im not an Afghani ,

            farsiwanism is a term blown out of porportion , In Afghanistan more and more non pashtuns speak pashto nowadays. In every shop in kabul they could converse with me in Pashto. Every singer sings in Pashto. Every tv channel has pashto programes while in the same time we have Pashto exclusive channels such as shamshad, RTA nangarhar, RTA kandahar, Zhwandoon, Pashtotv , etc and other media.

            i do not support oppression of anyone's language or culture.
            i dont hate minorities of pukhtunkhwa either.

            dari is not superior to pashto.
            dari does have have more academic books such as in the field of medicine.

            Pashto has become one of the most sought after language in Afghanistan
            and worldwide.


            Atta Noor is a nobody who in his wildest dream cant do such a thing.

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            • hail hitler hail hitler hail hitler hail hitler hail hitler arrrrrr.

              sorry all this ,who is the better pashtun and who is pro punjabi pro tajoke/uzbek/turkmen/hazara lead to a sudden errection of pure hate and racism .

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              • Originally posted by ډګروال View Post
                im not an Afghani ,

                farsiwanism is a term blown out of porportion , In Afghanistan more and more non pashtuns speak pashto nowadays. In every shop in kabul they could converse with me in Pashto. Every singer sings in Pashto. Every tv channel has pashto programes while in the same time we have Pashto exclusive channels such as shamshad, RTA nangarhar, RTA kandahar, Zhwandoon, Pashtotv , etc and other media.

                i do not support oppression of anyone's language or culture.
                i dont hate minorities of pukhtunkhwa either.

                dari is not superior to pashto.
                dari does have have more academic books such as in the field of medicine.

                Pashto has become one of the most sought after language in Afghanistan
                and worldwide.


                Atta Noor is a nobody who in his wildest dream cant do such a thing.
                The reason why there are not enough books of science and higher learning in pashto is because we are all cowards. We all talk big about loving pashto and loving our people. But we dont do anything but talking.

                This is why I hate nationalists so much. They are tje biggest hypocrites of all.
                Originally posted by Firdousi
                Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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                • Pashtun nationalists should hate their own if they were real nationalists, not religious Afghans. Why is it that these nationalist kings and presidents adopted the language of the minorities they looked down on?
                  There are people today who think that admitting God’s absolute greatness decreases the value and importance of humans in the creation, as if God and mankind are rivals competing in greatness and power. Meanwhile I feel that whenever our perception of God’s greatness increases, with it we become greater, because we are the creation of a great God.

                  Sayyid Qutb

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                  • Originally posted by randolph85 View Post
                    Pashtun nationalists should hate their own if they were real nationalists, not religious Afghans. Why is it that these nationalist kings and presidents adopted the language of the minorities they looked down on?
                    The reason is their political sits are in non-Pashtun dominated Kabul. Another explanation I already have done:

                    You are right. We don´t know who is who but the same could be said about you. Just look how many racist statements Gadoonwal, Khalji and other Users here do and the Admins ignore them just because they are ''Pashtuns'' (what kind of Pashtuns are these people by using vulgar words?). These people aren´t even from us. They not only insulting Farsiwans, Uzbeks and Hazaras and making dirty lies about them but also insult Afghan Pashtuns. If a Pakistani comes here and start to insult Pashtuns the same way he would be banned. Politically there are three options. Option one is the unification of Afghanstan which has priority. Option two is we all leave that ****ing country destroyed, partitioned, bombed to a hole or whatever. Option three is the unification of Pashtuns through Pashtun nationalism. The third option is the most destructive one because fools and vulgar people like Gadoonwal will leading it and push Pashtuns more into the role of criminals. We are accusing Pakistan to oppress our voices and rights and at the same time we want to oppress Farsiwans like Vinyard in Afghanistan because of their own opinions. This is hypocrisy. But to be honest, Pashtunism is a failed mechanism. Why? Because a farmer who lives in his village, never have been outside his village in his whole life doesn´t even know where Pakistan, Kabul, Peshawar, London lies. He never ever heart about Loy Pashtunistan. Farmers make the bulk of Pashtun nations. Another problem is we live in a multi-ethnical state, be it Pakistan or Afghanistan. In Pakistan we are a minority and highly pro-Pakistan, except some radical groups in FATA, in Afghanistan we are the largest minority but even if we represents 60% of the population still a sizable number of non-Pashtuns exist. The only people who really think about Loy Pashtunistan are Pashto-speaking Pashtuns educated in the West who don´t have any saying in Afghanistan or Pakistan and of course Pashtun leaders in Kabul but who are self-claimed Pashtuns but using Dari and Dari culture under non-Pashtun eyes. This is laughable, a joke, not worth to take these people serious when they talk about Greater Pashtunistan or Greater Afghanistan. These sort of ''Pashtuns'' are the most worst of all nationalists because they always used Pashtun masses, specially innocent poor and uneducated Pashtun farmers, to reach their own political goals and enrich themselves with the blood of Pashtuns. By catching Pashtuns and holding themselves on power they always used that self-claimed Pashtun cards and Pashtunistan issue. Now you decide yourself if you still want such a ''unity'' when Pashtuns will with 100% certainty suffer. How should such a unity looks like? How should it be managed? How to finance the 50 Million Pashtuns and the 15Mio - 25 Mio non-Pashtuns? Afghania is without Panjab and the money and industrial know-how coming from there nothing, just a stoney mountain, dry, cold and not really pleasent to live there. Same can be said about Afghanistan. Pashtun regions can be described as desert/dust. All the oil and gas sources can be found in the north. The copper mines are found in regions inhabitet by non-Pashtuns. Rivers providing us with life, our households and farming lands coming from their regions or Iran. Iran has closer ties to them than to us. We just lack everything at the moment and in the next 3-5 decades things won´t change much. That´s also the reason why we are doing everything to prevent Abdullah or any Tajik to become president. Afghanistan, we Pashtuns, are not ready for that, not yet!

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                    • Originally posted by ډګروال View Post
                      im not an Afghani ,

                      farsiwanism is a term blown out of porportion , In Afghanistan more and more non pashtuns speak pashto nowadays. In every shop in kabul they could converse with me in Pashto. Every singer sings in Pashto. Every tv channel has pashto programes while in the same time we have Pashto exclusive channels such as shamshad, RTA nangarhar, RTA kandahar, Zhwandoon, Pashtotv , etc and other media.

                      i do not support oppression of anyone's language or culture.
                      i dont hate minorities of pukhtunkhwa either.

                      dari is not superior to pashto.
                      dari does have have more academic books such as in the field of medicine.

                      Pashto has become one of the most sought after language in Afghanistan
                      and worldwide.


                      Atta Noor is a nobody who in his wildest dream cant do such a thing.
                      congratulations people start talking in pakhtu.
                      dagarwal saib,,,
                      Be realistic and truthful.
                      I have been to kabul not long ago and i was looking for an interpretor cus of pashtu.
                      FARHAD DARYA a pashtun sung 98% of his songs in parsi.
                      He visited tajikistan for concert and sung unity songs.
                      Ahmad zahir another half breed had few pashtu songs in broken pashtu with 99% of songs in dari.
                      A pashtun singers must sing in dari to reach to the top.
                      Look it poor Muqari saib.He is nar and patriotic pashtun singing only in pashtu.Now commpare him with bilingual singers and see the differance.
                      Nagma,mangal,aryan khan etc become more papular in pashtunkhwa then afghanistan cus of more pashtu speakers here.

                      This bilingual culture can be good for you people not for us.
                      Pashtu is the fastest disappearing language in afghanistan whether you accept this reality or not.

                      The afghan-pashtun in westren world claim 60% of herat is pashtun now if thats the reality why is under farsiwans then.
                      I have been to the city of herat very rich in culture and dose,nt even look afghan city or area.The entire papulation speak iranian farsi.The only pashtu speaker i met those refugees from kandar and helmond came there due to war.
                      Even farah wich you people claim 80% pashtun speak more farsi then pashtu.Most farahi people are of pashtun origin but in the city area they must speak parsi and not pashtu.They are very much influence by farsi culture and language.
                      This lady malalay joya is norzai from farah and speak farsi as first language.
                      Pashtuns claim Ghor is pashtun province while 98% of of Ghor is farsiwans,like aimak,tajik and hazaras with few nomads-pashtuns.

                      The pashtun provinces are heavily papulated by tajiks and hazaras as strong minority.
                      Ghazni(pashtun,hazaras,tajik)
                      Wardag (PASHTUN,HAZARA)
                      laghman(Pashtun,pashai,tajiks,noristanis,gujars)
                      logar(pashtun,tajik)
                      uruzgan(hazara,pashtun).
                      are pashtun provinces with nearly half of them are hazaras and tajiks.
                      If this not true then bring the officail website of afghanistan govt to prove it.

                      Gardez is full of tajik so as parts of kandar and surkhrod of nangarhar.
                      Every major city in afghanistan is full of parsibans except few.


                      They are the ruling class and we should accept this reality and go for education to support pashtu and pashtun interests.

                      You speak pashtu with parsiwans and they will answer in dari.
                      You speak dari with pashtun he will answer you in dari why?
                      Last edited by gadoonwal; 01-04-2014, 01:10 AM.



                      Support pashto language and greater pukhtoonkhwa.

                      pa prady jaba khabarai pakhtun naka
                      be laila bala soda kho majnon naka
                      gero jabo kre lahoo pa khpal tahzeeb ki
                      be pakhtu ba de bal hestsok rastoon naka
                      hamza baba
                      پَښتو کښې اُولېکئ
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                      • Originally posted by Bost Bastan News View Post
                        The reason is their political sits are in non-Pashtun dominated Kabul. Another explanation I already have done:
                        Bostan,
                        You ignore the fact that pashtuns of the east abused by the westren side in every 2nd post.We all know they are half breed and not pashtuns.
                        The pure pashtuns of afghanistan are our brothers and i see no difference between them.
                        I do not hate the minorities of afghanistan cus they are part of afghanistan and should remain that way.
                        Tajiks are higly educated,civilised and ruling class of afghanistan.
                        You people turned the majority pashtu-speakers to minority.
                        You imposed parsi on pashtuns in media,govt and in the streets even.
                        Is this fair?
                        Your women married to pashtun kings and taught their children to hate pashtu,is this not true?

                        49% farsiwans of iran imposed their langaueg on azeris etc and their language is the only national language but poor pashtun once with 60% majority now turned to minority just cus of the racist tajiks.



                        Support pashto language and greater pukhtoonkhwa.

                        pa prady jaba khabarai pakhtun naka
                        be laila bala soda kho majnon naka
                        gero jabo kre lahoo pa khpal tahzeeb ki
                        be pakhtu ba de bal hestsok rastoon naka
                        hamza baba
                        پَښتو کښې اُولېکئ
                        Pashto Keyboard Online (Afghan) LEXILOGOS >>

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                        • Originally posted by Bost Bastan News View Post
                          The reason is their political sits are in non-Pashtun dominated Kabul. Another explanation I already have done:
                          just seemed like a lot of rambling. the fact remains that pashtun king always had their power base among pashtuns of the east and south. if they didn't, then they wouldn't last 1 day as royalty in kabul. no dari speaking politician could save a king against the wrath of pashtun tribes beyond kabul. these pashtuns were paid favors and given favors for their loyalty, in other words they were bought off. no pashtun in jalalabad gave a damn what language their king spoke in their court in 1878 or any other time but as long as they were left alone and were not subject to military conscription or taxes like the minorities were, they were fine.
                          There are people today who think that admitting God’s absolute greatness decreases the value and importance of humans in the creation, as if God and mankind are rivals competing in greatness and power. Meanwhile I feel that whenever our perception of God’s greatness increases, with it we become greater, because we are the creation of a great God.

                          Sayyid Qutb

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                          • Originally posted by randolph85 View Post
                            just seemed like a lot of rambling. the fact remains that pashtun king always had their power base among pashtuns of the east and south. if they didn't, then they wouldn't last 1 day as royalty in kabul. no dari speaking politician could save a king against the wrath of pashtun tribes beyond kabul. these pashtuns were paid favors and given favors for their loyalty, in other words they were bought off. no pashtun in jalalabad gave a damn what language their king spoke in their court in 1878 or any other time but as long as they were left alone and were not subject to military conscription or taxes like the minorities were, they were fine.
                            Jalalabad - Kabul ... two different regions, two different dominant groups. Have you ever been in Kabul? You response like Dagarwal is dreaming and fantasiying when he talks about Kabul without being witness of facts. Not only Pashtuns were bought but also non-Pashtuns. During Amanullah Khan non-Pashtuns dominated the gvernment. All those constitutionalists (''Ghulam Bachagan'') were non-Pashtuns. That changed with Nadir Khan but later calmed down under his son. If the kings moved to Jalalabad they were with 100% cerntainty Pashtu-speaking.
                            Last edited by Bost Bastan News; 01-04-2014, 03:42 AM.

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                            • Originally posted by gadoonwal View Post
                              congratulations people start talking in pakhtu.
                              dagarwal saib,,,
                              Be realistic and truthful.
                              I have been to kabul not long ago and i was looking for an interpretor cus of pashtu.
                              FARHAD DARYA a pashtun sung 98% of his songs in parsi.
                              He visited tajikistan for concert and sung unity songs.
                              Ahmad zahir another half breed had few pashtu songs in broken pashtu with 99% of songs in dari.
                              A pashtun singers must sing in dari to reach to the top.
                              Look it poor Muqari saib.He is nar and patriotic pashtun singing only in pashtu.Now commpare him with bilingual singers and see the differance.
                              Nagma,mangal,aryan khan etc become more papular in pashtunkhwa then afghanistan cus of more pashtu speakers here.

                              This bilingual culture can be good for you people not for us.
                              Pashtu is the fastest disappearing language in afghanistan whether you accept this reality or not.

                              The afghan-pashtun in westren world claim 60% of herat is pashtun now if thats the reality why is under farsiwans then.
                              I have been to the city of herat very rich in culture and dose,nt even look afghan city or area.The entire papulation speak iranian farsi.The only pashtu speaker i met those refugees from kandar and helmond came there due to war.
                              Even farah wich you people claim 80% pashtun speak more farsi then pashtu.Most farahi people are of pashtun origin but in the city area they must speak parsi and not pashtu.They are very much influence by farsi culture and language.
                              This lady malalay joya is norzai from farah and speak farsi as first language.
                              Pashtuns claim Ghor is pashtun province while 98% of of Ghor is farsiwans,like aimak,tajik and hazaras with few nomads-pashtuns.

                              The pashtun provinces are heavily papulated by tajiks and hazaras as strong minority.
                              Ghazni(pashtun,hazaras,tajik)
                              Wardag (PASHTUN,HAZARA)
                              laghman(Pashtun,pashai,tajiks,noristanis,gujars)
                              logar(pashtun,tajik)
                              uruzgan(hazara,pashtun).
                              are pashtun provinces with nearly half of them are hazaras and tajiks.
                              If this not true then bring the officail website of afghanistan govt to prove it.

                              Gardez is full of tajik so as parts of kandar and surkhrod of nangarhar.
                              Every major city in afghanistan is full of parsibans except few.


                              They are the ruling class and we should accept this reality and go for education to support pashtu and pashtun interests.

                              You speak pashtu with parsiwans and they will answer in dari.
                              You speak dari with pashtun he will answer you in dari why?
                              Really and what about Farzana Naz? A Farsiban who only sings in PAshtu, she is super popular, with her there are other farsiban girls who only sings in Pashtu. And not to forget Latif Nangarhari, Shama Ashan, Taher Shabab, Shafeeq Mureed and bigest Master Ali HAidar who only sings Pashtu songs.

                              Pashtu is not number one, but its not as half bad as what you claim it to be.

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                              • Originally posted by gadoonwal View Post
                                Honestly,
                                i hate this kind of farsiwanism.Why are afghanis so influenced by parsi.
                                If pashtu to be the one and only officail language of afghanistan with no more farsi then there is no point a pashtun will oppose loy afghanistan.
                                I see no signs of that.
                                parsi speakers think their language and culture is more superior then pashtuns.
                                That is why poor pashtuns have no chioce but to adopt their language and culture.
                                It was our dream to unite all pashtuns from amu to abaseen and keep these migrants under pashtun influence but afghan-pashtuns will be the first one to oppose this.
                                They are so mixed with tajiks .
                                We must not fool ourselves.
                                I always wish my best for the people of afghanistan tajiks or pashtuns dose,nt matter but unity with parsi club will lead us to another confusion.
                                pashtunistan is different issue fully supported by afghan govt untill this day.
                                You celebrate this day in jalal abad now before kabul.
                                why dont you celebrate loy afghanistan day?
                                can you?
                                Be realistic man and do,nt fool others and yourself.
                                Atta mamad noor is already planing for northren afghanistan to be seperate country with help of west and isi.
                                There is nothing wrong with PARSI, we have lived together for thousands of years, before we made your former cow worshippers Muslims. I see you are not Pashtun, you are a truly panjabi. Only a panjabi wannabe ISI agent, bash Pashtuns who can speak Dari. Maybe you forgot, how many of these minorietes do we have learned Pashto?? Pashto is a official language of AFGHANISTAN, is Pashto in Porkistan? I will cut your head in all arguments
                                To Paradise, with Pakhto, I will go.

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