Why are Pashtun Nationalists fighting each other on PF?

[Shamlawar Khurasani]

I dont know Dutchie, why dont you start by telling us why every single Islamist group cant get along with one another?

Because there are a variety of ideologies among Muslims. When two movements have two completely different ideology, they can't get along with one another.

[Niazi]

Can anybody explain what the ideological difference is between Badlun and Gadoonwal?

Likewise, why does Loy Afghanistan attack and insult his fellow Pashtun nationalists?

I think that Toramana and Badlun have allot in common with one another. The rest oppose each other on pretty much every thing they can think of.

I am trying to understand so please give me a decent explanation.

It can be easily cexplained ,for instance you are in essence a vile Arab Nationalist witch sugar coated as religion,now don't tell me Islam is nothing to do with nationalism witch it dose.
Back to the original question .in every walk of life people have disagreements ,I know it's too much to ask from Wahhabi zealot aka Arab nationalist .

Like you don't like shai whom also are Arab nationalist like you but with differences.
To me you are a Vile nationalist Arab nationalist.

[KGODB]

Because there are a variety of ideologies among Muslims. When two movements have two completely different ideology, they can't get along with one another.

Pashtun Nationalism is an ideology that has many strains, as does political Islam (islamism, etc whatever you want to call it)

The same reason plankay khan doesnt get along with another nationalist is thr same reason plankay emir doesnt get along with another islamic militant

[Shamlawar Khurasani]

Pashtun Nationalism is an ideology that has many strains, as does political Islam (islamism, etc whatever you want to call it)

The same reason plankay khan doesnt get along with another nationalist is thr same reason plankay emir doesnt get along with another islamic militant

So what are those differences? Are pashtun nationalists able to exlain it to an outsider?

[Toramana]

So what are those differences? Are pashtun nationalists able to exlain it to an outsider?

Pashtun nationalists argue but Islamists fight like rabid dogs over sectarian differences and cut each other throats.

[gadoonwal]

شمله وَر خُراسانې صيب،او دَ پُښتون فورم ملګَرو.
ټول پُښتانه خپلو کښي سَره ورونړه دې.په پَښتون فورم کښي دَ افغاستان دَ دوه ژبو يا چي مُونږ ورته نیمچه وايو شمېر زيات دي.دَدوئ وینه دَ پاړسیوالو سره کَکړه شوې ده.دا ناشُولته دَ پُښتونخوا او دَ افغانستان د پښتَنو په مينځ کښي ِاختلاف او تاو ترېخوالي پيدا کَول غواړی.دَ پښتونخوا پښتنو پسے کنځلي کوۍ.ارمان دِ چي دا تاسو په مخا مخ اوکايئ بيا به مُوغيرت معلوم شې.دا نه پښتانه دې او نه فارسې وان ځکه چي فارسېوا نان دومره بے غيرته نشې کيدي.پکار دَ چي مونږ دا دَ لستونړی ماران او دَ ارانيانو اولاد اوپيژَنو.دَ پَښتو ژبي دَ پَښتنو په مينځ کښي څه اختلاف نشتے ټول يَوه خټه ده

[RevolutionThroughReason]

Pashtun nationalists argue but Islamists fight like rabid dogs over sectarian differences and cut each other throats.

Soon the roles will reverse

[Loy Afghanistan]

We should actually start infiltrating Nationalist movements , posing as nationalists so then we can exacerbate differences between them and motivate them to turn on each other. This will neutralize the nationalist movements effectively, we may even convince each group to assassinate the other leaders. Then all the blame will rest on them.

You see my brother and sisters? What I tell is no murder, is no genocide, but unity and no more blood spill from one single Pashtun on this planet. But these harami, wants us to kill each other. I say to you, only hazaras, half breed arabs and panjabis come here and play Pashtuns to destroys us. Because they will know deep inside, when Pashtuns unite nothing on this universe is impossible for us.

Like this is something new, you think we are some brainwashed idiotic fools, who don't see traitors? The new system is already born, you will see true wrath of Pashtun revenge. The punishment will cost people like you your whole lineage, and I am not talking about murder, but a fair justice punishment, jail for the traitor/enemy and sterilizing his offspring, it will just be one of the few laws in the constitution against traitors. Trust me, with the genetics of today. Do you really dare to destroy Pashtun unity and be the filthy enemy against the Pashtun race?

Good luck, we will see who will dare to strike against the Pashtun people when we have the power. The globalization, mix races etc weakness others, but not us.

[Loy Afghanistan]

Can anybody explain what the ideological difference is between Badlun and Gadoonwal?

Likewise, why does Loy Afghanistan attack and insult his fellow Pashtun nationalists?

I think that Toramana and Badlun have allot in common with one another. The rest oppose each other on pretty much every thing they can think of.

I am trying to understand so please give me a decent explanation.

I never attacked other Pashtun nationalists. I start from the bottom and go up, because a solid ground holds against a great fall.

But you are a harami arabic half breed. I put my whole energy on Pashtun race and their future. You put your energy on Somalis, Bosnians, Palestinians and your masters the Arabic caliphate of harami jahuds.

The difference between me and you is that I want to purify my lands for my ancestors and for the sake of the Pashtun identity, and the generations that will come. I want to focus only on Pashtuns and even conquer whole Islamic world in the future so Pashtuns should rule and make fatwas for others, not arabs and other foreigners.

You want arabic power, I want Pashtun power. That is the difference between me and you.

I hope you true Pashtuns is with us, for the sake of freedom and future of Pashtun identity and survival.

[RevolutionThroughReason]

You see my brother and sisters? What I tell is no murder, is no genocide, but unity and no more blood spill from one single Pashtun on this planet. But these harami, wants us to kill each other. I say to you, only hazaras, half breed arabs and panjabis come here and play Pashtuns to destroys us. Because they will know deep inside, when Pashtuns unite nothing on this universe is impossible for us.

Like this is something new, you think we are some brainwashed idiotic fools, who don't see traitors? The new system is already born, you will see true wrath of Pashtun revenge. The punishment will cost people like you your whole lineage, and I am not talking about murder, but a fair justice punishment, jail for the traitor/enemy and sterilizing his offspring, it will just be one of the few laws in the constitution against traitors. Trust me, with the genetics of today. Do you really dare to destroy Pashtun unity and be the filthy enemy against the Pashtun race?

Good luck, we will see who will dare to strike against the Pashtun people when we have the power. The globalization, mix races etc weakness others, but not us.

You are brainwashed and idiotic fools though, I never said kill Pashtuns, just destroy the nationalist from within.

Pashtun unity never existed, there's nothing to destroy, you'll never have power because you're irrational and emotional.

[Loy Afghanistan]

You are brainwashed and idiotic fools though, I never said kill Pashtuns, just destroy the nationalist from within.

Pashtun unity never existed, there's nothing to destroy, you'll never have power because you're irrational and emotional.

It is because I have a pure Pashtun heart that bleeds for the Pashtun suffering around the world. So yes, I am emotional, I am a human being with justice and righteousness that guides me on my path towards freeing my people from evil occupation, saving them from illiterate, ignorant uneducated status, injustice and destruction of Pashtuns and our Pashtunwali . Irrational because I want Pashtun people decide their own destiny and future??

Who are you? Are you even a Pashtun? Pashtuns has allways been united against foreign aggressor, only few traitors has destroyed that unity from inside. A logical thinking Pashtun would agree with my ideology, so who are you? Your kind is specially a threat against Pashtun unity and freedom with your poisonousness tongue on this forum. It is easy to see foreigners, but hard to see traitors parasites among your own people.

[RevolutionThroughReason]

And all this is exactly why you will fail. You look at things from a perspective of self delusion and denial than reality.

[Badlun]

شمله وَر خُراسانې صيب،او دَ پُښتون فورم ملګَرو.
ټول پُښتانه خپلو کښي سَره ورونړه دې.په پَښتون فورم کښي دَ افغاستان دَ دوه ژبو يا چي مُونږ ورته نیمچه وايو شمېر زيات دي.دَدوئ وینه دَ پاړسیوالو سره کَکړه شوې ده.دا ناشُولته دَ پُښتونخوا او دَ افغانستان د پښتَنو په مينځ کښي ِاختلاف او تاو ترېخوالي پيدا کَول غواړی.دَ پښتونخوا پښتنو پسے کنځلي کوۍ.ارمان دِ چي دا تاسو په مخا مخ اوکايئ بيا به مُوغيرت معلوم شې.دا نه پښتانه دې او نه فارسې وان ځکه چي فارسېوا نان دومره بے غيرته نشې کيدي.پکار دَ چي مونږ دا دَ لستونړی ماران او دَ ارانيانو اولاد اوپيژَنو.دَ پَښتو ژبي دَ پَښتنو په مينځ کښي څه اختلاف نشتے ټول يَوه خټه ده

ډیر ښه ځما خو ږه وروره

[Loy Afghanistan]

And all this is exactly why you will fail. You look at things from a perspective of self delusion and denial than reality.

Laws, history, education and the faith of the country and its people is always decided by those in power. Let us get there and shape for a good future, so all become educated, and the most important thing self aware, then everything will work by it self.

It is not me who are self delusion and denial of reality. You seems to be non Pashtun, and low life sub human who put some of your short time of your short life on this forum to bash against Pashtuns. I am here because it is my passion on this life is to help my people and Pashtun identity, so my children and grand children can live in peace and have a good future. I teach Pashtuns about how to be self aware, to be free, about some of the things they didn't know like the Origin of ethnicities on Pashtun soil, about their ancient ancestors who were one of those who invented Civilisation on this planet. And don't forget that PASHTUN ancestors where the first monolithic people on this earth as well.

You arguments don't stand against mine or ours ideology, you are just afraid of us, that why you want to destroy us, by infiltrating our ranks and assassinate our leaders, your own words.

Like I said, let Pashtuns get the education about their identity and the world, to become self aware and choice their own future. Good luck to stand against the force of freedom.

[Badlun]

So what are those differences? Are pashtun nationalists able to exlain it to an outsider?

There are converging and diverging points. I agree with Toramana, for example, in many issues but I do not blame Tajiks, Punjabis, ISI, CIA, US etc for the dilapidated conditions of Pashtuns . I request for reformation, introspection and self-critical of Pashtuns themselves. If Pashtuns are strong , no one can harm them. They let others to play with them. The home should be made strong so the thief does not enter, not to blame the thief always.

I agree with Loy Afghanistan in almost everywhere. However we can have differences in the modus operandi but on the issue of Pashtun nationalism and unity we are one. My recipe is secularism and more and more Pashtunwali to push the Mullah back to mosque. I do not want any religious role for Pashtuns except the beliefs, worship and morality.

Pashtuns are one if they speak/use Pashto and practice some aspects of Pashtunwali. We are one by nature. All Pashtuns are like cousins, like one extended family. Amongst brothers there can be difference of opinion but they are one. Every Pashtun even a Talib has one thing in common and that is their pride to be Pashtun and this is called Pashtun nationalism.

If Ayesha can fight against Ali, if there are can be Shias, sunnis, wahabis, salafis, ahle hadith, hanafis, shafyees, malikiks, hanbalis, jafaris, ismailis, zaidis, deobandis, sufis, brelvis, tableeghis, jamatis, ikhwans, mutazilis, asharis and so many others so how can there will be no differences in 70 millions of Pashtuns.