Pakis want to merge Afghanistan with Pakistan.

[M17ArnoBaloch]

There can be individual cases like yours'. Also Baloch might have been treated differently and Balochs may cross the border less frequently. Also bribing the security personnel you can do any thing. But these are personal experiences.

Legally and rules wise no one including Pakistani Pashtuns or so called Afghans except citizen of Afghanistan can cross Durand line without passport and visa.

No he didn't bribe him, he just said he wants to attend a wedding and he is a Baloch, he smiled and let him go.

He makes frequent visits to Kandahar and he had no problem whatsoever crossing the border.

Paki Pashtuns, well, I think Afghans are not that dumb enough to figure out the great Love Paki Pashtuns have developed for Pakistan. Or more specifically Afghans of Afghanistan or Pashtuns of Afg do call Paki Pashtuns to be sellouts. Considering how much Pashtuns have contributed to Pakistan, being majority of Pork Army along with the Panjabis.

[KGODB]

You people are fools if you dont think parts of Afghanistan will be merged into Pakistan

Unless drastic revolutionary changes happen to our gran watan, the FATA will be extended to the gates of Kabul

And to the Pakistanis who dont see the sense in this, ask yourselves what benefit does FATA bring to Pakistan?

None

It is simply an extension of a buffer zone thats it, and thats all our Pashtun lands will be come.

A reservation lifestyle awaits us...may even happen within my generation, unfortunately

[Da Bannu Mazdigar]

i was watching ayaz wazir interview with a geo anchor last week.

where he said according to the consitution of pakistan.if FATA through a complete referrendum is joined with KPK.this will mean FATA will have to merge parts of afghanistan adjacent to it or Pakistan will officially have to declare them as a disputed territory like kashmir.

can any sane member comment on this issue if he indeed has some insight into this subject.

[Da Bannu Mazdigar]

No he didn't bribe him, he just said he wants to attend a wedding and he is a Baloch, he smiled and let him go.

He makes frequent visits to Kandahar and he had no problem whatsoever crossing the border.

Paki Pashtuns, well, I think Afghans are not that dumb enough to figure out the great Love Paki Pashtuns have developed for Pakistan. Or more specifically Afghans of Afghanistan or Pashtuns of Afg do call Paki Pashtuns to be sellouts. Considering how much Pashtuns have contributed to Pakistan, being majority of Pork Army along with the Panjabis.

I don't know why as usuall your lying today again.

Forgot about through torkham or balochistan.here even through the ghulam khan post in bannu/miranshah.they won't let you without a valid passport into afghanistan.

Not a single Afghanistanis are now allowed without Afghanistan national identity card.than they are throughly registered since than as afghan national by NADRA

NADRA has a robust system and even sri lanka last week has chosen NADRA out of total 6 diffferent firms.

Gone are the days when everyone into and out of afghanistan was allowed without anything.

Spread your lies somewhere else.not only my family member usually Go to afghanistan but the ghulam khan post is less than an hour distance from my home.

NOTE:Yes indeed their is a way to sneak into the afghanistan territory illegally from Pakistan.But the area is now mined aswell as heavy PAkistana army security patrol teams.and if by any chance your caught.The rest of your life will be in the secret ISI built jail.

NOTE 2.0:The Ghulam khan border was banned by kiyani sometime back.not sure if they had opened it again or not.

[KGODB]

i was watching ayaz wazir interview with a geo anchor last week.

where he said according to the consitution of pakistan.if FATA through a complete referrendum is joined with KPK.this will mean FATA will have to merge parts of afghanistan adjacent to it or Pakistan will officially have to declare them as a disputed territory like kashmir.

can any sane member comment on this issue if he indeed has some insight into this subject.

i dont understand this logic, what does afghanistan have to do with it

dont get me wrong the very logic of fata even being part of pakistan is shoddy

[Da Bannu Mazdigar]

i dont understand this logic, what does afghanistan have to do with it

dont get me wrong the very logic of fata even being part of pakistan is shoddy

even i was confused when i heard that.

i will surely somehow get the video and tag you.

The problem is with the Govt of pakistan.they are not giving province status to FATA.

[M17ArnoBaloch]

I don't know why as usuall your lying today again.

Forgot about through torkham or balochistan.here even through the ghulam khan post in bannu/miranshah.they won't let you without a valid passport into afghanistan.

Not a single Afghanistanis are now allowed without Afghanistan national identity card.than they are throughly registered since than as afghan national by NADRA

NADRA has a robust system and even sri lanka last week has chosen NADRA out of total 6 diffferent firms.

Gone are the days when everyone into and out of afghanistan was allowed without anything.

Spread your lies somewhere else.not only my family member usually Go to afghanistan but the ghulam khan post is less than an hour distance from my home.

NOTE:Yes indeed their is a way to sneak into the afghanistan territory illegally from Pakistan.But the area is now mined aswell as heavy PAkistana army security patrol teams.and if by any chance your caught.The rest of your life will be in the secret ISI built jail.

NOTE 2.0:The Ghulam khan border was banned by kiyani sometime back.not sure if they had opened it again or not.

Im not lying u faggot

I'm not all sure about all the information you posted. You're making Afghanistan sound like the U.S or the britain in terms of extreme border security and border patrol. And even they get their borders violated when thousands of mexicans enter U.S. illegally every single day. And we're talking about Afghanistan here, a country ripped and blown out of war.

No one really checks who enters and who doesn't bro. Especially wasting your time in the embassy, waiting to issue a Passport for Afghanistan and waiting for years instead of just simply driving and entering there for 20 rupees.

Yes, if your caught you will face the consequences, as they don't really care about your life. the ISI will just throw you in the jail for as long as you have left to live (violating human rights).

Once your caught, your a dead meat.

Other than that, ive nothing to say here

Why do you like Porkistan so much ?

[Pakwatan]

Im not lying u faggot

I'm not all sure about all the information you posted. You're making Afghanistan sound like the U.S or the britain in terms of extreme border security and border patrol. And even they get their borders violated when thousands of mexicans enter U.S. illegally every single day. And we're talking about Afghanistan here, a country ripped and blown out of war.

No one really checks who enters and who doesn't bro. Especially wasting your time in the embassy, waiting to issue a Passport for Afghanistan and waiting for years instead of just simply driving and entering there for 20 rupees.

Yes, if your caught you will face the consequences, as they don't really care about your life. the ISI will just throw you in the jail for as long as you have left to live (violating human rights).

Once your caught, your a dead meat.

Other than that, ive nothing to say here

Why do you like Porkistan so much ?

Yo bro, I'm not trying to hate.

Your story sounded legit,

but....



20 rupees does not even get you a bubble gum in Pakistan.

[M17ArnoBaloch]

Yo bro, I'm not trying to hate.

Your story sounded legit,

but....



20 rupees does not even get you a bubble gum in Pakistan.

something called sarcasm my nigga.

But yeah he really did tell me that the security guards take about 10-20 rupees.

No lie.

Try it yourself.

[Da Bannu Mazdigar]

Im not lying u faggot

I'm not all sure about all the information you posted. You're making Afghanistan sound like the U.S or the britain in terms of extreme border security and border patrol. And even they get their borders violated when thousands of mexicans enter U.S. illegally every single day. And we're talking about Afghanistan here, a country ripped and blown out of war.

No one really checks who enters and who doesn't bro. Especially wasting your time in the embassy, waiting to issue a Passport for Afghanistan and waiting for years instead of just simply driving and entering there for 20 rupees.

Yes, if your caught you will face the consequences, as they don't really care about your life. the ISI will just throw you in the jail for as long as you have left to live (violating human rights).

Once your caught, your a dead meat.

Other than that, ive nothing to say here

Why do you like Porkistan so much ?

all the info i provided is very much true and is more like 1 or even more older.The situation is getting tough and tough

NADRA official teams are deployed in all the pak-afghan border.
Do you know pakistan also has cancelled giving dual citizenship incase of afghanistan.

i collected this all info as in 2011 many told me you should go for a afghan citizenship and apply for KMU(khyber medical university under afghan quota) because both in KMC as well as ayub Medical college the highest score student selected was having only 388 marks secured in etea test while i already had secured 491.but on open merit the merti was extremely high.
But later i dropped this when i came to know all this stuff and also that Pakistan has denied giving dual citizenship to afghanistan.and if i would have applied so.it would had been impossible for me to get back Pakistan citizenship.

A further more confirmation yes you even don't need a passport to visit afghanistan or pakistan from afghanistan.i didnt knew this before.i thought passport was very much necessary.but again passing through nadra officially.they will put you as a pakistan or from afghanistan as a Afghan refugee.

you were partially right but all this stuff of 20rs is BS.

I dont hate neither like pakistan.But my pashtunwali teaches me yo always respect and be loyal to your guadian.and hence this is teh reason i respect aswell as i am loyal to Pakistan

Because Pakistan is my guardian in a sense
Pakistan has

*Protected me from foriegn occupation vis a vis afghan govt has always failed to protect its citizen be it from USSR,AMERICA or even Pakistan and iran
*has given me a citizenship
*has given me education
*has given me and my family a source to earn
*has given me the best a state can


do you want me to abuse my guardian?if you want so i will do it but according to my pashtunwali i will not remain a pashtun anymore

[Loy Afghanistan]

all the info i provided is very much true and is more like 1 or even more older.The situation is getting tough and tough

NADRA official teams are deployed in all the pak-afghan border.
Do you know pakistan also has cancelled giving dual citizenship incase of afghanistan.

i collected this all info as in 2011 many told me you should go for a afghan citizenship and apply for KMU(khyber medical university under afghan quota) because both in KMC as well as ayub Medical college the highest score student selected was having only 388 marks secured in etea test while i already had secured 491.but on open merit the merti was extremely high.
But later i dropped this when i came to know all this stuff and also that Pakistan has denied giving dual citizenship to afghanistan.and if i would have applied so.it would had been impossible for me to get back Pakistan citizenship.

A further more confirmation yes you even don't need a passport to visit afghanistan or pakistan from afghanistan.i didnt knew this before.i thought passport was very much necessary.but again passing through nadra officially.they will put you as a pakistan or from afghanistan as a Afghan refugee.

you were partially right but all this stuff of 20rs is BS.

I dont hate neither like pakistan.But my pashtunwali teaches me yo always respect and be loyal to your guadian.and hence this is teh reason i respect aswell as i am loyal to Pakistan

Because Pakistan is my guardian in a sense
Pakistan has

*Protected me from foriegn occupation vis a vis afghan govt has always failed to protect its citizen be it from USSR,AMERICA or even Pakistan and iran
*has given me a citizenship
*has given me education
*has given me and my family a source to earn
*has given me the best a state can


do you want me to abuse my guardian?if you want so i will do it but according to my pashtunwali i will not remain a pashtun anymore

It is okey, don't cry. If you are not half breed we will educated your grand children to become true Pashtuns when panjabistan (britishstan) is divided between Pashtuns and hindus.

[Da Bannu Mazdigar]

It is okey, don't cry. If you are not half breed we will educated your grand children to become true Pashtuns when panjabistan (britishstan) is divided between Pashtuns and hindus.

educate yourself first and than ask us.

we already has reached upto 55% of literacy rate here in KPK and under a loyal govt like of Imran khan.70% target is very much achievable in the next 5 years

and no i don't want my childrens to become persianized like you and become shia like you will become one day inshAllah.

as earlier said we karlani usually don't consider even non karlani as true pashtun anymore.and has never considered a persianized pashtun like you a pashtun ever

now go away and don't quote me next time

[Karachi]

All these merges etc.. are a very bad idea and never lead to anything good. Look at all the successful regions of the World, be it North America, Europe or even India for that matter. They all have so many states within. It is defiantly easier to manage when you have more states. Thats why I think even Pakistan should have more states.

[Badlun]

Im not lying u faggot

I'm not all sure about all the information you posted. You're making Afghanistan sound like the U.S or the britain in terms of extreme border security and border patrol. And even they get their borders violated when thousands of mexicans enter U.S. illegally every single day. And we're talking about Afghanistan here, a country ripped and blown out of war.

No one really checks who enters and who doesn't bro. Especially wasting your time in the embassy, waiting to issue a Passport for Afghanistan and waiting for years instead of just simply driving and entering there for 20 rupees.

Yes, if your caught you will face the consequences, as they don't really care about your life. the ISI will just throw you in the jail for as long as you have left to live (violating human rights).

Once your caught, your a dead meat.

Other than that, ive nothing to say here

Why do you like Porkistan so much ?

The issue is legality not illegal human crossing of borders. many Mexicans cross US-Mexico border but both US and Mexico recognize the border and ask visas for legal crossing of the border. the same happens on Durand line.

Paksitan do recognize it as an international border but apparently Afghanistan does not.

My question is why Afghan authorities ask Pashtuns(Afghans) of Pakistan a visa and Pakistani passport on a border which supposedly they do not recognize? Why they do not announce Afghan citizenship for all Pashtuns like Israel did for Jews?

[DSM0305]

The issue is legality not illegal human crossing of borders. many Mexicans cross US-Mexico border but both US and Mexico recognize the border and ask visas for legal crossing of the border. the same happens on Durand line.

Paksitan do recognize it as an international border but apparently Afghanistan does not.

My question is why Afghan authorities ask Pashtuns(Afghans) of Pakistan a visa and Pakistani passport on a border which supposedly they do not recognize? Why they do not announce Afghan citizenship for all Pashtuns like Israel did for Jews?

Because unlike Jews, Pashtun from Pakistan have no love for Afghanistan. It will turn into a welcoming sign for insurgence. I don't know where you have been the last 30 years, but reality have changed and you don't need to be a mastermind to know the answer for such a stupid question.